"Official" Denon AVR 2809CI/989 Thread - Page 107

As stated above, dial through the modes using the remote or the button to the far left under the front panel. Wait for the source to link to the receiver before you do that. PLIIx should give you Cinema then Music, and yes, adding the rear surrounds via that mode is what I do for all sources when required.

The STANDARD button will not switch between Cinema and Music modes. There should be dedicated Cinema/Music buttons on the remote.

However, if you want discrete Harmony commands to make life even easier see the link in my sig, just ask for any commands to be copied into your account. The Harmony account has discrete IR commands for "Music", "Cinema", "DPLII Music", etc.

Yes and no. Turns out the STD button will only cycle through DD PL IIx / DTS /Neural as the OP posted. However, you have to go into the OSD to change from CINEMA/MUSIC/GAME/PL as there is no dedicated button for it on the remote. However, a quicker way to get there is by pressing the PARA button.

jontrepanier -
If you are in a DD PL IIx surround mode (Cinema, Music, Game), it should automatically switch to 7.1 when a DD True HD 5.1 source is received as shown on the chart in your Owner's Manual, p. 75.

I just got my 2809 yesterday and I am in the process of setting it up. One thing I cannot seem to do is get any analog audio out. I need to use wireless headphones, and on my Onkyo I just hooked them up to a record out. On the 2809, I have tried both of the outputs marked "OUT" (VCR and DVR), but I get nothing. Am I doing something wrong or is there something wrong with my receiver? Is there some setting somewhere to activate the audio out?

So far, all of my connections are analog, so it's not some digital to analog problem. I have 3 Tivo's and a TWC DVR hooked up. 2 are hooked up via component and 2 are hooked up s-video, all with analog audio inputs. All output video just fine, and the audio is working fine through the speakers. I just can't get any audio to my wireless headphones.

I also tried running from the 2 "OUT" positions to my TV, but get no audio on my TV when I do that.

Anybody help?

I stand corrected. I guess I was thinking of the EQ button for the Audyssey levels.

You shouldn't have to make any special setting as the VCR OUT should play the MAIN source if analog. Another option is to set Zone 2 to a particular source (Zone 2 doesn't have to be on) as VCR OUT will play anything directed to Zone 2 (analog or PCM 2.0). I use my wireless headphones plugged into VCR OUT to listen to a source set to Zone 2 (eg. phono or Tuner) when someone is using the AVR surround speakers for the MAIN source (eg. TV or PS3).

If you can't get it to work either way ... then ... wait for it ... wait for it ... RESET THE MICROPROCESSOR!

See P 50. The question I have is WHY all that analog in???

Thanks. I just figured out the Zone 2 trick myself and came back to post a "Nevermind". I can listen to all 4 sources through my headphones, without changing any sources, as long as REC OUT appears on the display. Weird to me that they just don't output by themselves.


I only have analog right now for this very purpose. I want to get the basics running before I hook up my digital inputs. On my Onkyo 702, it wouldn't convert digital to analog. So all my sources needed an analog input, in addition to digital. I'm hoping my 2809 will convert so I can eliminate a lot of analog inputs. We'll see. P.S. I found the info on page 57.

I will say that the 2809 has been the hardest receiver I have ever hooked up. Not very intuitive. I have downloaded Batpigs' instructions. I'll probably make a donation when I'm all done and satisfied.

Actually .. there's no reason to have RECOUT on the display as the VCR and DVR OUT jacks are always ON. The RECOUT function simply allows you to record out/listen to another source other than the MAIN source if on a setting other than SOURCE.

Well, that was my problem. They WERE NOT on. I certainly would think that they should always be on, but they are not. If you know of a way to have them always on w/o REC OUT, I would like to know. That's why I wondered if I have a defective receiver.

Not sure why yours is not working correctly unless your RECOUT setting was other than SOURCE (the default). In that setting the REC OUT jacks are always ON regardless of the source. The only thing I had to do with my wireless headphones was to plug them in to the VCR OUT jacks and they worked without making any other setting changes, playing any analog or PCM 2.0 source selected for either the MAIN zone or Zone 2.

That could very well be my problem, but how can I change it? I don't see a REC OUT source setting anywhere.

On the left side of the front panel, press the Zone 2/3 - REC SEL button until Zone 2 appears. Then turn the SOURCE SELECT knob until the RECOUT setting indicates SOURCE.

O.K., thanks. I just checked and mine is reading source. So maybe I inadvertently fixed it before.

Keep in mind when you start making your digital connections, only PCM 2.0 will play through the VCR OUT so you may need to keep those analog connections if you want to continue using the wireless headset for all sources, especially those that will be playing DD and HD codecs.

I just ordered one of these and need the analog out to the wife's headphones. I understand the need for analog in parallel, but will I have to dig into settings to get it consistently, or just match up the analog inputs with the digital ones? I need to set expectations...

v/r,
C-F

No setting changes required. Simply match up the analog inputs with the digital inputs and you should be good to go.

If you are in a DD PL IIx surround mode (Cinema, Music, Game), it should automatically switch to 7.1 when a DD True HD 5.1 source is received as shown on the chart in your Owner's Manual, p. 75.[/QUOTE


Thanks batpig....I will try logitech.

As far as DDPLIIx plus HD I see in the manual that I can do it, but I don't see how to activate it. My surround mode is set to auto, I play a Blu-ray the HD light comes on it shows 5 channels on both sides of display, but pressing the STD button does not activate DDPLx like it would with a normal 5.1 source nothing happens. So how do I activate it?

Not sure what you mean by "my surround mode is set to AUTO". There is no AUTO setting. When you press STD, what does it display? What Blu Ray audio source is playing?

Edit. Just dawned on me that what you probably mean is that "Auto Surround Mode" is set to ON which is the default anyway. Regardless, when in STANDARD mode setting Dolby PLIIx, the Denon will automatically simulate a 7.1 signal from a DD 5.1/Dolby TrueHD 5.1 source signal.

Yes, it's a shame it will only do PCM 2.0 . So I will keep all my analog audio connections.

Hi, having gone back to 2008 posts and still rather confused on LFE, etc. since I pre-amp out to L/R mains and 2 subs using an electronic crossover set to 100Hz with 2 outboard amps driving the mains and 2 subs, how would I redirect the LFE channel to those mains which of course will channel the very low LFE signal to my 2 subs? My mains will be set to 'large' and the rest of the speakers will be set to 'small' with all bass re-directed to the mains/subs. Keep in mind that with my electronic crossover in line, my L/R mains only get data over 100 Hz, subs anything under 100 Hz using a 24 db slope.

Sorry if this question has been answered before.....am still not quite clear and a search on this lonnnnnnng thread is not getting me to where I want to go.

Thanks

This is the first of many questions.My front speakers are Def Tec BP7004's.Should I set the 2809 to "Large",LFE+ Mains or what? This always confuses me. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

John Frank -
When there is a sub in the setup, the Denon only directs the LFE to the sub. It can only be directed to the mains when there is no sub.

Pete -
How you set up your BP7004's is a personal choice. When you run AUTO SETUP, the 2809 will set the 7004's to LARGE because their frequency range goes below 40hz. However, most would agree setting them to SMALL with a crossover of say 40hz or 60hz would be the better way to go. If you prefer extra bass, the LFE+MAIN will have the subs playing both the LFE signal AND the low frequency signals from the mains (otherwise known as "double bass"), otherwise, just leave the sub at "LFE" setting.

So, my 7004's have a built in crossover,right? So, I also have the LFE cables going to both with a "Y" cable out of the LFE out on the back of the reciever.What setting should I use under this set up?

Not the kind you are thinking of ... no. Connect your LFE cables from each of the 7004's to the sub pre-out via a "Y" connector. Set the SUB LFE Crossover frequency to 120hz and then run AUTO SETUP. After you run it, the Denon will set the crossover frequencies for all of your speakers which you can then adjust upward as necessary by going into the OSD under Speaker Configuration. Again, your choice, however, suggested that you change the mains from LARGE to SMALL with frequency either 40hz or 60hz.

Thanks.I'll try that when I get some days off!

Thanks. Just waiting for it to arrive (hopefully before the summer gets too busy).

v/r,
C-F

Another question: With my Oppo I like to listen to SACD and DVD audio.Is it better to have the HDMI or the analog cables feed the Denon?

I tried to play a movie with DTS (The Rock - Criterion) using my A2 HD DVD but its seems that I can't select a DTS mode in the 2809, do I need to do it manually? There is still sound but its using DD not DTS.

Another question I also tried to check with my Terminator 2 HD DVD (German) using 7.1 DTS and again the 2809 is still using DD and its 5.1

Is there a setting I need to change?

I have the A2 HDMI set to PCM...



Thanks!

Looking at your owner's manual, it appears the A2 sends only PCM over HDMI. Looks like the only way to get DTS is by using a TOSlink/optical cable.