"Official" Denon AVR 2809CI/989 Thread - Page 12

"the OSD should definitely appear over HDMI.

it's possible your TV doesn't accept 480i over HDMI... check the HDMI setup and make sure the i/p scaler is turned on (A to H) and that the resolution is 480p or higher, or just set it at "Auto"."

I have a Panny 50" Plasma Model TH-50PZ77U, I did not see any adjustments however it does note that it does show 480 over HDMI.

I am running a HDMI Extender over a Cat 6 Line, I do not know if that would make a difference. There is a signal booster on the box, should I consider adjusting that to see if that makes a difference....

FYI....

I adjusted the signal on the HDMI Extender - Receiver, and Wallaaa,

Thanks for the quick reply!

Hello, forum newbie and fellow 2809/Pronto TSU7500 remote owner here...

Soapbox, the discretes you posted are very helpful - Thank you for doing so. By chance do you have discretes for 5/7 channel stereo or any of the surround modes? With the same source (Dish Sat) I often alternate between TV, movie, and music and need to switch sound modes accordingly.

I noticed that a lot of the Denon remote codes seem to be toggles that move through multiple settings, rather than discretes.

Appreciate it.

Here you go:

Multi Channel Stereo (7 or 5):
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0679

Stereo:
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0679

DTS Neo:6 Cinema:
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0679

DTS Neo:6 Music:
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0679

Dolby PLII/PLIIx Cinema:
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0679

Dolby PLII/PLIIx Music:
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0679

Dolby PLII/PLIIx Game:
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0679

Neural:
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0ACE

Cinema Mode: (toggles between DTS Cinema and Dolby PLII Cinema)
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0679

Music Mode: (toggles between DTS Music and Dolby PLII Music)
0000 006D 0000 0020 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0679 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 001E 000A 0046 000A 0046 000A 0679

Restorer Off:
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0ACE

Restorer Mode 1:
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0ACE

Restorer Mode 2:
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0ACE

Restorer Mode 3:
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0ACE

Let me know if any don't work (I may have transposed something wrong in converting them from K-Code or Denon-Sharp).

Some commands toggle as well. I can do all the individual DSP formats (Rock Arena, Jazz Club, etc) but I almost never use them ... if you want the discretes I can generate them. There are no discretes (as far as I know) for each Audyssey Mode or for turning Cinema EQ on or off.

Thank you very much. I will be adding them to the Pronto tonight and then testing them out over the next day or two. Really appreciate your time in grabbing these and then posting them.

Best Regards,

I understand that the Denon "CI" AV receivers have some kind of crippling designed into them that requires hiring a professional with special equipment or codes to fully activate all the features. What features would I be missing in the 2809CI if I don't hire such an individual?

would it be worth it to upgrade to the 2809 in my case? I have an old Yamaha rx-v530, which is at least a five year old receiver. My speakers were, at the time, ~$300 speakers from Klipsch and they're about the same age.

I mostly play console and computer games and I wondered if the upgrade to the denon would be noticeable at all or if I really don't need to worry about it.

I dont know, thats what I was hoping to learn. My receiver is a nexus, it connects my consoles, computer, dvd player, cable box, hdtv to my 5.1 set of speakers. Like I said I dont know their particular model names but they are 6 year old Klipsch models and they cost $400 each when new.

Im hoping to get better sound quality and better surround effects for my games. The autoadjust from the 2089 looks very helpful and so does the HDMI inputs, which would reduce a LOT of cable clutter.

Thank you, I truly appreciate your wisdom.

I finally got my 2809 setup and ran the auto setup. It has the fronts as large and the bass is too soft for my liking. I know I can go in a do a manual but then I loose the Dynamic EQ and Dynamic volume. Is there anyway to change the audyssey setting and have the receiver use them?

So I can't rename the sources without the special equipment or codes? That's one feature I use on my existing receiver and I would miss it if I can't do it myself.

OK, now I realize the 989 is practically the same as the 2809, with the features I want but without having the "CI" concerns, so the 989 will go on my short list.

It's quite easy to rename the inputs on the receiver from the user menu.

Node - four HDMI inputs, upconverting of the analog inputs to HDMI out, the Audyssey auto speaker adjust, and a few other reasons where why I upgraded my older Yamaha amp to the 2809.

Soapbox, I spent the morning yesterday copying all of these codes into my Pronto and then testing each one. All codes appear to be working as specified. Thank you again.

Thanks for clarifying. It's just that I'm wary of products these days that involve having to pay a professional to do something with it. They do it with cars (you now need a special computer with secret codes), and computer hardware and software. They take away functionality from the common customer and you have to pay somebody else (or do some hacking tricks) to enable that functionality. So I'll keep the 2809 in mind, if the "CI" is not taking away anything from Joe Average.

I am setting up my 2809-CI, and have HDMI from the receiver to my Panny 50" Plasma, and have noticed some issues with Analog Display being inconsistent...

I am using a HDMI Cat 5 extender, which I am using shielded CAT 6 line, feeding the Extenders Transmitter and Reciever for the HDMI Extender.

The HDMI Connection from my DishNetwork receiver to my AVR works fine, however the Problem is when I get into the Analog connections going through the AVR.

On the HDMI extenders Receiver, there is a gain adjustment (0-7).

When I try to get the AVR Menu to Display on the I can adjust the HDMI "gain" usually between (0-1) and get it to display. However If I turn the AVR On/Off, then when it comes back on, the Menu is lost and if I fiddle with the "Gain" Adjustment I can get it back.

With the WII, I am using Analog connections, and have the same problem, I noticed that the sound is not a problem coming back after turning it On/Off, its always the Video, again fiddling with the "Gain" gets both Audio and Video going.

1) Are there any settings on the AVR that I need to address to help this situation

2) Should running a HDMI cable vs. the Extender be considered, Sat is working fine both Audio and Video

3) Should I go back to running Component connections from the AVR to get the Menu for the AVR to display on the Plasma (I was trying to avoid this to prevent having to switch sources on the Plasma)

Essentially, I was hoping to run everything through the AVR with only 1 HDMI to the Plasma.

However I do have Component, and a Coax, and 2 Cat 5 lines Hardwired from my AV Cabinet to the back of the Flat Panel...

Wewww....

Enough for Now.....

if you already have a component cable hardwired to the display, there is no reason to only use the one HDMI connection to the monitor. HDMI is real finicky especially over longer runs, as you have discovered, and there is actually some very slight signal degradation on the analog>digital transcode.

Simply plug in the component cables to the component monitor output of the 2809, and use the analog monitor output for all analog sources and the hdmi output for digital sources. That's how my setup works.

The convenience of the 1-cable thing is sort of nullified in your case because you already have the cable run in your installation.

Hi all: I'm trying to decide between the AVR-2809CI and the Sony STR-DA3400ES, which are both right at the same price point. It looks to me like the Denon has more features and is more powerful, but I wonder how much the Sony's build quality and 5-year warranty should matter? Also, I believe the Sony's GUI is better. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

If you do consider using a long HDMI cable, these guys seem to have what you need:

BJC Belden Series-1 Bonded-Pair Cable: Best for Long Runs
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/...bles/index.htm

They claim to have run the series-1 cable 125 feet with a 1080p source with no signal degradation. I don't think my whole house is 125 feet across.

My situation is just the opposite. I have a grouchy neighbor who lives in the unit below me. When he is gone there is no problem. But when he is home the bass is just a bit much with Dynamic Volume midnight setting. Is there a way that I can either change the speaker setting to small or do a manual adjust and still be able to use the Dynamic Volume?

Still looking for an answer. So will upgrading from my rx-v530 to the 2809 allow me to have better sound due to the updated features or would it just be mostly just convenience.

Do you have a subwoofer? If yes, is it on a subdude or something similar to isolate it from mechanically vibrating the floor?

What is your floor made of, wood? If it's wood he'll probably still hear the bass, unless there is concrete or a thick layer of soundproofing below it. If it's concrete, the subdude may solve the problem except when you play it loud.

The Audyssey is probably the only thing in the 2809 that is likely to improve the sound over what you already have. The rest of it is just features for your convenience ... HDMI, more digital audio inputs, etc. If you have Blu-Ray or SACD or DVD-Audio, you'll be able to transmit the high-resolution sound digitally via HDMI (but note that some players won't transmit SACD or DVD-Audio over HDMI).