Originally Posted by Sybek
Wow - those are quite the extremes. I also find the same lack of graphical GUI exists on the sony's unless you go for the $2500 high end 5400ES. I really really want that GUI but this will definitly be hard to justify given the cost and that most features I need/want are on the 2809. Ugh
Yeah, I felt the same thing. I was really disappointed when the 2809 was introduced and a) there was no GUI (there is not, if anything, it is a TUI
) and b) that they kept the same video processor as the last years model.
But, as time went on, I concluded it didn´t matter much. Once you´ve set up the system, you would rarely use the GUI. And most of the content I watch is HD anyways, so the video processor don´t matter that much. (1080P from the PS3)
Have had the 2809 in the house now for a couple of days. I really like it. Tips for those of you who are still waiting, READ THE MANUAL! Some of my experiences while I set it up:
- Spent an hour putting banana plugs on the speaker cables. THEN I realized they did not fit in the sockets of the 2809! What? OK, I seemed to remember something. Google "denon banana plugs". Ah... Use a screw and gently pull the plastic thingies out. Excellent. With the banana plugs and HDMI only connections, it looks super clean compared to my previous setup.
- The Audyssey setup failed: "No left back surround speaker." I KNOW, THERE IS ONLY ONE BACK SPEAKER. When you stupid receiver realize there is only one back speaker, you should assume there IS only one back speaker! Run again, same result. OK, read the manual.... Ahh.... "If you only have one surround back speaker, use the left output." Ie. not the right... Switch, run, success.
- No picture when I just connected HDMI cables to the projector. When using S-video, I had a picture. Not sure what happened, but suddenly there was a menu over HDMI too.
But it still looks like crap...
- Quick select buttons. Nice. 1. PS3. 2. Satellite 3. Radio. Perfect for the wife (and the kids..)
- Like the RDS info scrolling in the display when listening to the radio. (Another thing I had to read in the manual, how to store stations..)
- After a couple of days I do not miss the GUI, nor do I miss any scaling etc.
- The HDMI cables I got from Monoprice are indeed VERY stiff, as all the reviews mention...
- I wish all the Blu pre-orders I have at Amazon would ship now. I´m ready to watch movies!
- Of course, all I need now is a new projector, new speakers, a new screen, and a 4Gb Drobo x 2 NAS setup.
Let me go speak to the wife..
All in all, a happy camper. Sounds great, looks good (NOT the TUI). I´m happy I didn´t go with the 3808, don´t think I would have noticed much difference.
Watched Transformers on Blu. Wow. Very nice. Smiles all over.