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post #5581 of 5668
There are actually a total of 8 mic positions you can run. If you added any more speakers then you must rerun Audyssey (although it's also a good idea to run it again whenever you reposition your speakers/sub or furniture in the room). You may also want to check that the AMP ASSIGN setting didn't get changed from Zone 2 (default if you have a 5.1 setup) to Normal (7.1) setup which would also cause that warning message.
post #5582 of 5668
yeah it looks like my auddissy settings have mysteriously vanished so I'll have to redo Mic readings. Hope this doesn't keep happening.
post #5583 of 5668
Hi Guys, I am having a bizarre problem with my 989. If I turn my amp on low, I am not getting sound from my mains and sometimes the center. If I push the cone in, the speaker will start to work and if I crank it up it will also start working. I have tried different signal level settings and it did not help.

At first I thought the problem was in the speakers (Paradigm Titan v5) so I took them in as they were still under warranty. They went through them and could find no problem with the speakers. The repair shop figured it might be a problem with the amps in the receiver. He was thinking that pushing on the cone was sending an electromagnetic pulse and kick starting the amps.

I have tried resetting the microprocessor a few times and that did not help.

I have had this receiver for 4 years and this is a new problem. (It figures , I had 3 year extended warranty on it rolleyes.gif)
Has anyone out there had any issues like this? This receiver sounds amazing otherwise
post #5584 of 5668
I've got the exact same receiver and haven't had any problems with mine in the almost 4 years that I've owned it.

did you try blowing compressed air in the headphone jack? I know that sounds silly but it has fixed several strange problems with Denon receivers.
post #5585 of 5668
Hi everyone,

I just picked up a used AVR-989 and replaced my AVR-590...

I'm a little disappointed by the power output, in fact I had it go into protection mode due to speaker leads at the volume level of -20dbs...I triple checked all of my connections but couldn't find any leads shorting.

I had it setup as 7.1, but I only have 5 (plus sub) speakers. I changed the setting to 5.1 and zone 2, and now it seems to be a little better....still get distortion at the -10db range which is pretty weird.

I purchased some high end definitive technology speakers and was hoping to blow the doors off....It seems like the power output is very similar to the 591.

My question is, is there a way to eliminate the need for zone2 or the 7.1? I'm going to stay 5.1 for now (Bought it for the power upgrade). Just trying to get the most power out of this thing. I also know there are pre-outs,but I haven't looked into external amps yet.

Thanks!
post #5586 of 5668
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My question is, is there a way to eliminate the need for zone2 or the 7.1? I'm going to stay 5.1 for now (Bought it for the power upgrade). Just trying to get the most power out of this thing. I also know there are pre-outs,but I haven't looked into external amps yet.

why would you have it setup for 7.1 if you only have 5 speakers plus sub? Have you calibrated your system by plugging in the mic and running Audyssey? Also if you have a subwoofer your 5 speakers should be set to small.
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I'm a little disappointed by the power output, in fact I had it go into protection mode due to speaker leads at the volume level of -20dbs...I triple checked all of my connections but couldn't find any leads shorting.

How do you know it went into protection because of speaker leads?
post #5587 of 5668
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

why would you have it setup for 7.1 if you only have 5 speakers plus sub? Have you calibrated your system by plugging in the mic and running Audyssey? Also if you have a subwoofer your 5 speakers should be set to small.
How do you know it went into protection because of speaker leads?

I planned originally on using it as a 7.1, but I have to find a good pair of speakers...so for now I'm just keeping it as 5.1

I'm running my fronts off of Speaker A, center and surrounds...

The red light was flashing twice a second...that is what the manual/people say about that particular error. I sure hope it isn't amp failure!
post #5588 of 5668
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Originally Posted by tibz35 View Post

Hi everyone,

I just picked up a used AVR-989 and replaced my AVR-590...

I'm a little disappointed by the power output, in fact I had it go into protection mode due to speaker leads at the volume level of -20dbs...I triple checked all of my connections but couldn't find any leads shorting.

I had it setup as 7.1, but I only have 5 (plus sub) speakers. I changed the setting to 5.1 and zone 2, and now it seems to be a little better....still get distortion at the -10db range which is pretty weird.

I purchased some high end definitive technology speakers and was hoping to blow the doors off....It seems like the power output is very similar to the 591.

My question is, is there a way to eliminate the need for zone2 or the 7.1? I'm going to stay 5.1 for now (Bought it for the power upgrade). Just trying to get the most power out of this thing. I also know there are pre-outs,but I haven't looked into external amps yet.

Thanks!

There is only (1) power supply, so what matters is how many speakers are connected and how much power they are drawing. After running Audyssey, with a dedicated sub in your setup, regardless of the capability of your FL/FR speakers, you should have all speakers set to SMALL with a minimum of 80Hz crossovers. Review the Audyssey 101/FAQ Guide linked in my sig for more info.
post #5589 of 5668
So I'm really frustrated now...

I can't even get through at -20dbs when a loud scene comes on. If anyone has any experience with a similar setup please let me know!

I'm running Definitive Technology BP7006's which have a built in subwoofer and also plugged in (I have two of these). I also have a def tech CLR 2300 center channel with a built in subwoofer which I currently have unplugged. Def tech surrounds.

I did the Audyssey setup and I've experimented with all of the settings. Large fronts w/ sub and w/o sub.

I have everything plugged into a Monster Cable power bar that is coming from one outlet on the wall. Do you think a voltage drop could cause it go into protect mode --- The protect mode is 2 blinks every second. I've checked all of the speaker connections and they are fine.

I have a HTPC, couple of external drives and a cable box plugged into the same power bar.

Any help would be appreciated!
post #5590 of 5668
Are the 7006 and 2300 speakers set to SMALL/80Hz as suggested? I'd try taking the power bar out of the setup as a test.
post #5591 of 5668
I just tried changing the crossovers and settings and got a lot of clipping from my right channel even at a very low volume... I don't get it.
post #5592 of 5668
You may want to try resetting the 989 microprocessor (p. 60 OM).
post #5593 of 5668
I'm running a 50 ft spdif coax cable out of my computers x-fi sound blaster soundcard into my 989 for my flac music. I was recommended to use aimp3 music player program. Under playback options under device, which am I supposed Too select--
asio, direct sound, waspi, or waspi exclusive?
post #5594 of 5668
That question really has nothing to do with the receiver. It's on the computer side.
post #5595 of 5668
I want to stream movies via my Samsung ES7100 and I have already determined (via Batpig's Denon guide) that my 2809 does not support ARC. To get the sound from the streaming movie from the TV to the 2809, I will have to use an optical jack from the TV to the receiver. I am unclear on how this will work. Once I hook up the optical jack, do I have to assign it?

In the ES7100 user manual there is a paragraph that has confused me. If it could be translated in to english, I would appreciate it. Here it is:
Quote:
When the recover (or home theater) is set to on, you can hear sound output from the TV's optical jack. When the TV is receiving a DTV signal, the TV will send 5.1 CH sound to the home theater receiver.

Ok, that first part I got. Here's the rest:
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When the source is a digital component such as a DVD player/Blu-ray player/cable box/STC (set-top-box) satellite receiver and you connected it to the TV via HDMI, you will only hear 2 CH audio from the home theater receiver. If you want to hear 5.1 CH audio, connect the digital audio out jack from your DVD player/Blu-ray player/cable box/STC (set-top-box) satellite receiver directly to an amplifier or home theater.

The TV is 3D and so is my blu-ray player and my DTV DVR (an HR34), so via HDMI cables I have connected them to both the AVR and the TV. I did that so I could display 3D but put the sound through my AVR. If I hook up an optical cable is that going to screw up this setup?
post #5596 of 5668
No it shouldn't as you would select the audio coming from the respective HDMI cables connected to the AVR rather than selecting the optical input.
post #5597 of 5668
That quote in the manual refers to audio passing through the TV from hdmi and then back out the optical out jack. Since you are running audio direct to the receiver it won't affect you.
post #5598 of 5668
How do I tell the receiver to use the audio from the optical cable only when I'm streaming a movie? I have setup an input for my blu-ray player, the dvr, etc. Do I have to setup up an input for the TV?
post #5599 of 5668
If you want the HDMI video source that is connected to the AVR to use audio from another input to the AVR, you change the INPUT MODE for the HDMI video source to either "Digital" or "Analog" depending on the input desired. If the video source is the TV in which case there is no video going to the AVR, then you would simply select the optical cable from the TV as the input source with no reason to change the INPUT MODE settings.
post #5600 of 5668
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

If you want the HDMI video source that is connected to the AVR to use audio from another input to the AVR, you change the INPUT MODE for the HDMI video source to either "Digital" or "Analog" depending on the input desired. If the video source is the TV in which case there is no video going to the AVR, then you would simply select the optical cable from the TV as the input source with no reason to change the INPUT MODE settings.
Maybe you're already saying this, but I'd like to explain more explicitly what I want to do. If I'm watching my DTV receiver or my blu-ray or whatever, and I want to watch a streaming movie, I don't want to have to get in to the receiver's setup and change something.

Right now, through assignments, I've told the receiver that HDMIX belongs to the DVR and HDMIXX belongs to the blu-ray, etc. Don't I have to setup up another input assignment for streaming? One in which I assign the optical input to the streaming input and no video input, no hdmi, no component. Have got that right?
post #5601 of 5668
Lets keep it simple -- the optical input from the TV is just another input as far as the receiver is concerned. It's no different than if you connected a CD player, or a cable box, or a DVD player with an optical cable. The receiver doesn't "know" what it is beyond it being an optical audio cable input.

The movie streams to your TV, the audio flows out through the optical cable, to the receiver. At that point, it's just another input.

So, basically, YES, you have to set it up as a separate input on the receiver (e.g. assigning the optical cable to an unused "name"). Nothing special needs to be done on the receiver beyond simply selecting the input that you want to listen to, no different than switching the source from your DVR to your Blu-ray player. The only thing you might want to watch out for is making sure that in INPUT ASSIGN there is not an HDMI cable also assigned to the same name as the optical input, because then the receiver might be expecting an HDMI stream and will override the optical input.
post #5602 of 5668
That's what I was thinking. Thanks, batpig.
post #5603 of 5668
Hi all. I returned from vacation, sat down watch a little tv an dang no sound or picture via the receiver hdmi. Not even the denon setup menu shows up on the tv. I have verified the source and tv by a direct connection. Does this sound like a complete hdmi board failure?
post #5604 of 5668
Possibly. Try doing a soft reset by unplugging the AVR for about 10 minutes and if still no joy, a microprocessor reset.
post #5605 of 5668
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Originally Posted by chengka View Post

Hi all. I returned from vacation, sat down watch a little tv an dang no sound or picture via the receiver hdmi. Not even the denon setup menu shows up on the tv. I have verified the source and tv by a direct connection. Does this sound like a complete hdmi board failure?

False alarm. My newish hdmi cable(rcvr to tv) went bad. Never had that happen before, at least not without seeing tooth marks on the cable.
post #5606 of 5668
Hi everybody. Got a quick question. I have a 2809 and it's been working great for the past 4-5 years. I have a 7.1 system. Just the other day the surrounds and surround backs just stopped working. I couldn't get any sound out of them even when I went through the test tones. The fronts/center/sub work fine but I can't get anything out of the other four speakers. I did a reset of the processor hoping that may fix something but I still have the same issue. Any ideas of any more troubleshooting i can do? Thanks for any help.
post #5607 of 5668
try spraying compressed air in the headphone jack. It know that sounds strange but it has cleared up many problems on Denon receivers.
post #5608 of 5668
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Originally Posted by eeratm View Post

Hi everybody. Got a quick question. I have a 2809 and it's been working great for the past 4-5 years. I have a 7.1 system. Just the other day the surrounds and surround backs just stopped working. I couldn't get any sound out of them even when I went through the test tones. The fronts/center/sub work fine but I can't get anything out of the other four speakers. I did a reset of the processor hoping that may fix something but I still have the same issue. Any ideas of any more troubleshooting i can do? Thanks for any help.

What surround mode are you using? Try a few resets in a row.
post #5609 of 5668
I tried a few resets but still no sound. I'm using standard surround mode. I've switched it to 7 channel but still nothing. Also, the output signal channel indicator on the front of the receiver shows 7 speakers. Not sure what is going on.
post #5610 of 5668
Try setting Amp Assign to Zone 2 and see if the Tuner can be sent to the Amp Assign speaker posts. If still no joy, then the amps may have gone bad. You could also try a blast of compressed air into the headphone jack, although when that's the cause it generally knocks out the audio to every speaker, not just the side/rear surrounds.
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