Official Pioneer SC-05 and SC-07 Owners Thread - Page 41

billybob0405, he is what I do. since you have a computer. I sugest you download the manual from pioneer's website and since it is a pdf, you can do fast searches on the document without having to read it all at once.

If you would have search on gallery you would have found it in no time...

On Pioneer's website they state that the sc-07 has a Burr-Brown 8-channel Sampling Rate Converter and Wolfson digital to analog converters. They do not state this for the sc-05. Does anyone know if the sc-05 has these? If not, what does the sc-05 use?

Funny thing is I have it in PDF. And read the very line that answered the question. I just wasn't reading close enough or paying attention or something. I remember reading that line and it popped in my head to put it in source - input source. I wasn't familiar with the operational source little thingy yet. Thanks for your response and the suggestion. I bow my head in embarrasement.

Bill

Don't be embarrased, we have all ( at least I know I have ) been guilty of doing the same thing. We are just so excited about our new receivers, that we tend to loose ourselfs in in them.

no need for embarassment... it happens to all of us... i can sometimes read the same line of a manual over and over again and still do it wrong (and this isn't limited to avr's)...

Thanks all. At least it wasn't a question asked before.

According to the owners manual they are both 140W x 7. The only difference is the Multichannel Simultaneous Power Output Total.

The 05 also has 4 HDMI inputs, but only one HDMI output.

SC-07:
Sampling Rate Converter HDMI Jitter Reduction – Burr Brown

I know the SC-05 has Jitter Reduction but I don't know the details, does anyone?

Good job of putting this together
I have seen this question asked a few times in this thread. Is their any way to get it put on the first page and keep it updated if something is found to be different.
Allen

Actually, it was, last week.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post14750233

I wasn't following that thread, probably need to go back and pick it up.

That was a little far back for this gray matter to remember. It seems almost all questions have been asked at one time or another. These threads are packed with great info.

It's been several days now since Aquafire reported that he "was disappointed with what I was hearing" when he played a couple of CDs through his SC-07. Did he ever find out what was causing that and do they sound great to him now? I hope so, because otherwise one owner is saying that the SC-07 is disappointing playing CDs and none of you have responded to my question as to how FM sounds.

If CDs sound bad and FM sounds bad, and movie-sound sounds great, as Aquafire stated, that's a mixed bag. I should think DVD-As might sound good. LPs? Most of you are saying the 07 sounds really wonderful, so apparently Aquafire was doing something wrong in how he was playing CDs.

If CDs now sound great with the change(s) you made on your SC-07, I would appreciate hearing you say it, Aquafire. Your post about bad-sounding CDs created doubts. Just one owner saying that creates real doubts for potential buyers.

And if FM sounds really good on the SC-07, I'd appreciate some owner saying so. No one has commented at all about how FM sounds on the 07, and it's making me wonder if you are reluctant to admit how bad it is. I had another maker's flagship here in June, 2008 and the FM sounded like really, stuningly bad AM. I could hardly believe it. That makes me think maybe AVR makers are using really cheap components for FM now.

My wonderful Tandberg 2075 stereo receiver, built by bike-riding Norwegians at the Tandberg Radiofabrique plant in Oslo in 1976 has just glorious FM, or as glorious as it can get. It sounds 10X better than that on the aformentioned flagship I had here in June. The diffference was night and day. In Europe in the 70's, they REALLY worked to make FM great on top-gun receivers. No surprise since the only media sources were FM, one's turntable, and tape.

Let's clear up this report by Aquafire about his being disappointed by how CDs sound IF they sound good to him now.

And let's hear an SC-07 owner report how the FM on the SC-07 is as good as you have ever heard FM sound, if it is. Otherwise, we have to assume you've heard better.

all due respect fresno, but that post could have been worded a lot better... coupled with your earlier contentious posts (re: axxis audio), you come across as a bit of a troll... no one is "reluctant" to admit anything...

fwiw, i have no issues with cd/sacd/dvd-a with my sc-05 (being fed by an oppo 980 via hdmi) or with feeding it compressed music from my appletv (horrors!)... did it need to be tweaked? sure. i'm not aware of any avr that comes out of the box with all the settings correct for your room.

i have no idea about the fm, as i haven't tried it, and to be honest, am unlikely to... my "somewhat educated guess" is that it's not as "good" as you would like it to be, as tuners have become a bit of an afterthought in avrs, given the fact that we have so many different sources for music today...

if you are so enamored of your tandberg, i suggest you keep using it...

FM sounds good on my SC-05, but in no way am I comparing it to SACD, it is FM after all so how good can it sound.

These things have FM tuners in them? Isn't that kinda like watching blu-ray on a black and white tv?

I wouldn't trust a commercial radio station to not be transmitting compressed mp3 crap these days. No source control = no go for any critical listening I would be doing.

It has a Sampling Rate Converter HDMI Jitter Reduction at 192khz/24bit. It just isn't Burr Brown.

I am getting a popping sound out of my Polk LSI speakers every once in a while when I hit the menu button or doing a chapter skip from my dvd or bluray players from my SC-05. Is anyone else noticing this?

Thanks, brand new Monster 500 1 meter HDMI cables. I will try to replicate with the optical digital output coming from the players instead.

Just checked with Pioneer and they said do NOT drive speakers with a lower impedance than 6 ohms with their Ice Amps. They said that over time you will fry the output transistors.
I wanted the SC-07 to drive my Focal 1007's which have a nominal impedance of 8 ohms but drop down to 3.9 ohms so it's no Ice Amps for me.

Being a THX receiver they should drive 3.2 ohm speakers to 105 db without any difficulty even the THX Select models.

It matters more where the impedance drops to 3.9 ohms. If it's at 4kHz, it doesn't matter. If it's at 125Hz, it might matter.