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post #14431 of 17039
10/23/09 at 5:26pm
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Originally Posted by jitu View Post

I have been doing some more reading and I was looking for dynamic volume for sc-05 but I guess THX Loudness Plus is the same thing as Dynamic Volume for Audyssey. So, if I select, for example, PLII MV + THX, does that mean I have THX Loudness Plus enabled?

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THX Loudness Plus has its own setting under THX Audio Setting.

But once it has been activated, it does work in all THX modes.
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post #14432 of 17039
10/23/09 at 7:46pm
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You guys got lucky. Our Magnolia only had the sc-05, so, I had to get it. Purchased it with AMEX and got an extra 1yr warranty on top of the 2yr that it comes with. Btw, it maybe cheaper from ebay but they aren't authorized dealer, so, you wont get any warranty from Pioneer. Oh and I think it's ridiculous too that they were asking more for the sc-05. Mine was an open box and I didn't get a remote with it and I tried to make them lower price more to make up for the remote but they wouldn't budge...bummer

I know their policy...but do you think they would actually deny a warranty claim?
I think it always seems peculiar that there are always so many "new in box" on ebay...and the 25/27 was there on ebay right after they were introduced
And if it it was "new in box" and $500 less than Magnolia's sale price( about 300 off list).... is it worth the chance?


Warren
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post #14433 of 17039
10/23/09 at 8:11pm
picked up a open box sc-05 at best buy today to replace a vsx-91txh and love it so far. got a great deal too!! 549.95 seemed sweet to me couldn't resist.
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post #14434 of 17039
10/23/09 at 10:59pm
Warren, I am big on warranty for expansive items and to me it's a deal breaker. If you do get one from ebay then I would highly recommend getting a warranty plan from BB. It will be worth it. Though I am not sure if you can get one if you didn't buy it from them.
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post #14435 of 17039
10/23/09 at 11:00pm
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Originally Posted by piodef View Post

picked up a open box sc-05 at best buy today to replace a vsx-91txh and love it so far. got a great deal too!! 549.95 seemed sweet to me couldn't resist.

Wow! That is a great deal and congrats!! Did you everythg with it? Box and accessories?
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post #14436 of 17039
10/23/09 at 11:35pm
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post



cable management = making sure all the cables are connected to the correct ports...

anything after that is gravy...

All connected and no ground loops. Then it's gravy.
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post #14437 of 17039
10/23/09 at 11:38pm
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Originally Posted by jitu View Post

I have been doing some more reading and I was looking for dynamic volume for sc-05 but I guess THX Loudness Plus is the same thing as Dynamic Volume for Audyssey. So, if I select, for example, PLII MV + THX, does that mean I have THX Loudness Plus enabled?

Loudness Plus works in ONLY ONE direction - raise the volume of sounds such as bass frequencies that would ordinarilly be imperceptible at lower volume levels (i.e. NON REFRENCE levels). Dynamic volume works in both (raise/lower) such as with loud TV commercials during a standard Dolby Digital program source.
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post #14438 of 17039
10/23/09 at 11:49pm
My setup is SC-05 with Pro-111FD connected via HDMI. The source is a Motorola PVR also connected via HDMI to the SC-05. I have HDMI Control enabled on both the SC-05 and Pro-111FD. This works fine for having the TV show the SC-05 volume on screen.

But I have a somewhat undesirable "feature" with this setup. If I have the SC-05 on and listening to music via HMG for example (TV is off). I then turn on the TV (using the SC-05 remote). The TV turns on just fine but about 3 seconds later the SC-05 switches to the TV/SAT input. WTF?

I have nothing connected to the TV/SAT input. Is there a way to define the input that should be switched to when the TV is powered on? Ideally I'd like to make the HDMI input the PVR is connected to be the input that gets selected by the HDMI Control when the TV is powered on. But I can't see any way to do that with the SC-05 menus.

Any suggestions very welcome.
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post #14439 of 17039
10/24/09 at 5:27am
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Originally Posted by CHP_VR View Post

Congratulations, eddielives

Welcome to the ICE Club!
Please let us know your impressions.
Pictures welcome, but make sure the stickers are off

Thanks!

Haven't had much time to play around (that whole annoying work thing). I actually haven't even hooked it up via HDMI, although I will be. Here's a quick picture of the upgraded system. I've given up on my wife putting her decorations all over my stuff.
So far, it crushes my old Yamaha RX-V1400 which it replaced. But then again, it should.
The stickers were the first thing to come off.

EDIT: I just realized how bad my photography skills are. I'll have to work on that.
LL
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post #14440 of 17039
10/24/09 at 6:03am
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Originally Posted by eldithomaso View Post

All connected and no ground loops. Then it's gravy.

shhhh.... don't say those two words out loud...

fortunately, i haven't had to chase out a ground loop in awhile (knock on wood)... ground loops suck...
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post #14441 of 17039
10/24/09 at 6:40am
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

But once it has been activated, it does work in all THX modes.

Is the reverse also true? If you aren't in a THX mode THX Loudness Plus isn't active?
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post #14442 of 17039
10/24/09 at 7:03am
I have a issue I need to get resolved, it's driving me crazy. I have ran Full MCACC, changed what speakers were set to Large to Small with 80 Hz crossover. Here's my problem, all audio formats sound great except DD 5.1, there is way to much base, the Sub is bottoming out. What I have tried is turning off THX Loudness, selected "no" to THX Select2 Subwoofer, this has not helped. Any ideas?

Thanks

Steve
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post #14443 of 17039
10/24/09 at 7:34am
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Originally Posted by plz View Post

My setup is SC-05 with Pro-111FD connected via HDMI. The source is a Motorola PVR also connected via HDMI to the SC-05. I have HDMI Control enabled on both the SC-05 and Pro-111FD. This works fine for having the TV show the SC-05 volume on screen.

But I have a somewhat undesirable "feature" with this setup. If I have the SC-05 on and listening to music via HMG for example (TV is off). I then turn on the TV (using the SC-05 remote). The TV turns on just fine but about 3 seconds later the SC-05 switches to the TV/SAT input. WTF?

I have nothing connected to the TV/SAT input. Is there a way to define the input that should be switched to when the TV is powered on? Ideally I'd like to make the HDMI input the PVR is connected to be the input that gets selected by the HDMI Control when the TV is powered on. But I can't see any way to do that with the SC-05 menus.

Any suggestions very welcome.

The switch to TV/SAT is a "benefit" from HDMI control. If you're turning on the TV, it's because you want to watch tv, right? (You can have any flavor you like, as long as it's vanilla...)

The quick work-around is to turn off HDMI control in the 111FD.

Dan.
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post #14444 of 17039
10/24/09 at 7:35am
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Originally Posted by ratmice View Post

Does anyone know what is, or where to find, the gain structure of the ICE modules in the SC-05? I want to see if I can match them to some amps I have lying around to play around with bi-amplification.

Really? No one?
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post #14445 of 17039
10/24/09 at 7:45am
I haven't posted in years and couldn't find or recall my old account.

I recently had some lucky chance encounters with several local area Best Buy stores in the Houston area that enabled me the opportunity to update an aging media room and make another one. New Def-tech mythos one floor standing speakers and matching sub. My surrounds are the Mirage Nanosat Prestige 5s, (4 Surrounds and 1 center) making it possible for a clean looking 7.1 surround room. It came with a center channel that could not cut the mustard with me, so I purchased a martin Logan center speaker and all from best buy. Believe it or not, it all sounds really great together and have had mouth dropping moments from not just friends that get into this kinda thing, but my WIFE! All items together were reduced in price along with 2 Pioneer amps the 05 and 07 for around 2,200. Honestly, I have no idea all this equipment BB was willing to let go for such a steal. It was a fall clean out for new equipment. I have to believe that pricing errors or something rewarded me all this equipment. I don't often get lucky like this, but I suppose I was due. I feel very fortunate since purchasing such equipment with normal pricing would have made all this impossible as my wife would have skinned me alive! I'm not trying to gloat here, I'm just happy as um heck!!!

Moving forward, both receivers I have work great. I was concerned about the class D amps, but WOW, they really sound amazing... They both from time to time make a tick noise thru the speakers that I never noticed thru my old trusty Onkyo 989. It only happens from time to time, but does happen on both amps. It happens with all media sources. So, I dunno... No major deal, I was just curious if others have had similar issues. I was also curious if Pioneer has any firmware updates that are available and if so, have their been any complications with the updates that have had any negative impacts.
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post #14446 of 17039
10/24/09 at 7:50am
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Originally Posted by ratmice View Post

Really? No one?

nope, sorry...

i suppose you could try either pioneer or b&o tech support...

or just experiment...
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post #14447 of 17039
10/24/09 at 7:59am
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

Is the reverse also true? If you aren't in a THX mode THX Loudness Plus isn't active?

Yes.

I believe Pioneer's new "Optimum Surround" mode does something similar in non-THX modes, but it only became available in the SC-25/27 series.
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post #14448 of 17039
10/24/09 at 8:25am
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Originally Posted by jitu View Post

Wow! That is a great deal and congrats!! Did you everythg with it? Box and accessories?

i got the remote, the fm antenna, and mcacc mic. the manual is online, and im ok without the box. i am very happy so far. the sound is simply amazing!
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post #14449 of 17039
10/24/09 at 8:27am
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Originally Posted by darynm View Post

I haven't posted in years and couldn't find or recall my old account.

I recently had some lucky chance encounters with several local area Best Buy stores in the Houston area that enabled me the opportunity to update an aging media room and make another one. New Def-tech mythos one floor standing speakers and matching sub. My surrounds are the Mirage Nanosat Prestige 5s, (4 Surrounds and 1 center) making it possible for a clean looking 7.1 surround room. It came with a center channel that could not cut the mustard with me, so I purchased a martin Logan center speaker and all from best buy. Believe it or not, it all sounds really great together and have had mouth dropping moments from not just friends that get into this kinda thing, but my WIFE! All items together were reduced in price along with 2 Pioneer amps the 05 and 07 for around 2,200. Honestly, I have no idea all this equipment BB was willing to let go for such a steal. It was a fall clean out for new equipment. I have to believe that pricing errors or something rewarded me all this equipment. I don't often get lucky like this, but I suppose I was due. I feel very fortunate since purchasing such equipment with normal pricing would have made all this impossible as my wife would have skinned me alive! I'm not trying to gloat here, I'm just happy as um heck!!!

Moving forward, both receivers I have work great. I was concerned about the class D amps, but WOW, they really sound great... They both from time to time make a tick noise thru the speakers that I never noticed thru my old trusty Onkyo 989. It only happens from time to time, but does happen on both amps. It happens with all media sources. So, I dunno... No major deal, I was just curious if others have had similar issues. I was also curious if Pioneer has any firmware updates that are available and if so, have their been any complications with the updates that have had any negative impacts.

Congratulations, and welcome back.

You have a very nice system there, and a great bargain. BB managers have a lot of discretion on pricing, so if you catch an aggressive one at the right time, some great deals can be had there. It's kind of hit or miss though, and you have to be lucky.

I've never experienced the clicking sound, nor do I remember it being an issue here. My first inclination would be to guess that your receivers might be picking up some interference from another device in your house (e.g. an appliance turning on and off). Maybe someone else has a better thought.

Pioneer never has been big for firmware updates, and there are none specifically for the SC-05/07, at least none intended to be applied by the end user. There is one for the non-North American models which a few people have successfully applied to their 05/07's, but it is only to update the HMG function. Most of us haven't bothered with it.

More information about this can be found in a link on the first post on first page of this thread. You'll find that first post an invaluable resource as you get acquainted with your new receivers.
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post #14450 of 17039
10/24/09 at 9:30am
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Originally Posted by eddielives View Post

Thanks!

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The stickers were the first thing to come off.

EDIT: I just realized how bad my photography skills are. I'll have to work on that.

Nice and clean. Me thinks he is a Samsung fan.

Why two Monster power centers?
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post #14451 of 17039
10/24/09 at 2:12pm
Need help in finding a new in the box sc05 from any best buy in the country, my guy here in Ny will have it shipped into his store and give it to me at closeout,( well almost I bought the pio 151 from him today and the BD player) all I have to do is tell him which best buy in the country has it, thanks in advance ( they can only check on the Ny NJ conn area by the computer.
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post #14452 of 17039
10/24/09 at 2:42pm
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Originally Posted by hollywood53 View Post

Need help in finding a new in the box sc05 from any best buy in the country, my guy here in Ny will have it shipped into his store and give it to me at closeout,( well almost I bought the pio 151 from him today and the BD player) all I have to do is tell him which best buy in the country has it, thanks in advance ( they can only check on the Ny NJ conn area by the computer.

I would suggest that you call some of the Best Buy's in the Los Angeles area...
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post #14453 of 17039
10/24/09 at 10:46pm
Guys--Dumb question here.

I searched all over the thread and others and can't come up with the answer....

I have an SC-05 hooked up to a samsung bd-p1600 BD player, and do I set the player default to PCM or Bitrate (audiophile)?

I'm running this through HDMI exclusively...

Same with the PS3.
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post #14454 of 17039
10/25/09 at 5:25am
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Originally Posted by Macfan424 View Post

Yes.

I believe Pioneer's new "Optimum Surround" mode does something similar in non-THX modes, but it only became available in the SC-25/27 series.

Yesterday, I swapped my SC-07 and BDP-05FD for a SC-27 and BDP-23FD. Here are some tips and remarks:

1) Tip: When using the 23FD with the SC-07, for the HDMI connection, you have to select "High Speed Transmission" OFF in the 23FD, otherwise you get "NOT SUPPORT" on the SC-07 display. Took me a while to figure that one out, since my 05FD was set on high speed ON.

2) About the "Optimum Surround": The first thing I noticed when switching from Optimum surround to another mode (like stream direct) is the much higer level of background hiss in optimum surround!!! That's one mode I don't think I'll be using much....

3) New features in SC-27 (don't remember if they're noted in the SC-0x/SC-2x differences info):
- You can set the power-on volume level ("Last", or any specific level)
- You can set a maximum power level (None, -20db, -10db, 0db)

That's all for now, got to go setup the SC-07 and BDP-05 at my mother's house...

Dan.
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post #14455 of 17039
10/25/09 at 6:03am
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Originally Posted by eldithomaso View Post

Nice and clean. Me thinks he is a Samsung fan.

Why two Monster power centers?

While I am a fan of Samsung (particularly my FPT5084 plasma), that picture frame cycles through various images such as THX, DTS Master, Dolby TrueHD, Klipsch etc.

The 2 power centers are for stuff you don't see. My router, modem, and MRF-350 are behind the curtain along with an amplifier for my cable line.I also have a couple of strings of LED's along the backside of the glass shelves, which give a nice green glow through the glass at night). I have a laptop and an iPod dock in the drawer. I'm also using an Airport Express for more music distribution. There's also the $5 blue clock behind one of the holes in the back of the stand (looks built in, and I needed it since my TivoHD doesn't show the time). Oh yea, and the 2 subs off to the sides (RSW-12 and BA BT1100/not pictured). All in all, around 16 things to power.

The real jewel isn't shown. The MX-980 which controls the whole system along with 5 zones of music.

With that said, I'm pretty proud of my "wire management". Oh yea, I got both the power centers for free too, so no busting chops for spending too much on glorified extension cords!

But I digress.
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post #14456 of 17039
10/25/09 at 6:08am
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Originally Posted by eddielives View Post

With that said, I'm pretty proud of my "wire management". Oh yea, I got both the power centers for free too!

But I digress.

as well you should be... where the heck did you put them all? if i attempted to wire that much stuff in an open stand like that, it would look like the kitchen of an italian restaurant after a major disaster...

digression is fun... and more than welcome...

ps. where'd you hide the rf receiver for the mx-980?

damn. i AM impressed... any chance you want to visit the toxic waste dumps and clean my wiring up?
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post #14457 of 17039
10/25/09 at 6:36am
The MRF-350 is on the windowsill behind the curtain, and the antenna runs up the side of the window to the top.

I took a while to make it look like that, but it's a labor of love. It didn't come without some pain tho. When attempting to hang the 106lb. TV, I tore my bicep tendon! Don't worry tho. the TV was ok.
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post #14458 of 17039
10/25/09 at 6:53am
well, as long as the tv was ok...

gotcha... i too really like my mx-980 (i use a msc-400 with it)... although i still occasionally curse ss for getting me to spend the money on it, i'm really glad he did... after heaven knows how many hours of learning and programming (not to mention debugging), i have something that truly "works" all the time (and, at least to this point, is idiot-proof)... plus it's fun to play with... i'm presently playing with loading up "holiday" backgrounds as we "speak"...

the lutron switches for urc are quite cool as well (albeit a bit pricey)... by adding a couple of those in, i can control everything from everywhere... other than the dadgummed casablanca ceiling fan...
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post #14459 of 17039
10/25/09 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by info_dan View Post

1) Tip: When using the 23FD with the SC-07, for the HDMI connection, you have to select "High Speed Transmission" OFF in the 23FD, otherwise you get "NOT SUPPORT" on the SC-07 display.

I have used a couple of 23FDs with the SC-07... no problem at all using High Speed.
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post #14460 of 17039
10/25/09 at 9:11am
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Originally Posted by info_dan View Post

Yesterday, I swapped my SC-07 and BDP-05FD for a SC-27 and BDP-23FD. Here are some tips and remarks:

1) Tip: When using the 23FD with the SC-07, for the HDMI connection, you have to select "High Speed Transmission" OFF in the 23FD, otherwise you get "NOT SUPPORT" on the SC-07 display. Took me a while to figure that one out, since my 05FD was set on high speed ON.

2) About the "Optimum Surround": The first thing I noticed when switching from Optimum surround to another mode (like stream direct) is the much higer level of background hiss in optimum surround!!! That's one mode I don't think I'll be using much....

3) New features in SC-27 (don't remember if they're noted in the SC-0x/SC-2x differences info):
- You can set the power-on volume level ("Last", or any specific level)
- You can set a maximum power level (None, -20db, -10db, 0db)

That's all for now, got to go setup the SC-07 and BDP-05 at my mother's house...

Dan.


Do you think it was worth the $$$$ to do so? I'm not a huge fan of BD Live.

Just curious......
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