Official Pioneer SC-05 and SC-07 Owners Thread - Page 6

Ok, spent some time yesterday playing with the HDMI control..

Included some pictures to explain better, hope it helps.

HDMI functions: (all devices in question must have HDMI, example, if your tv has HDMI control, but your DVD player does not, it will not control it).
Equipment controlled: TV (PRO-110FD) and BlueRay (BDP-51FD) AVR (SC-07)

All control is from the TV remote control
TV and AVR
Controls: Volume control

It also turns on the AVR and switches inputs controlled by the SC-07.
Hitting the HMDI Control menu from the TV and selecting the AVR creates popup screen to access additional functions:

This is what shows overlayed on screen:

TV/Blu-Ray/AVR Control.
(If TV is off, it turns it on)..
Inserting disc switches all audio and video through the AVR to the TV properly.. in this case, select source, BD HDMI, 1080p/24, deep color (4:4:4), audio direct (some settings were programmed in the BPD-51, some in the SC-07 and some in the TV)
Basic controls for the Blu-ray you can operate with the TV remote using HDMI control:


Vonbek777, all the above was strictly HDMI control... in addition to this, I'm programming the TV remote to have most of the functions of the SC-07 and my other DVD-player, the SC-07 remote is quite good (BTW, it's a learning remote, so I'm programming my DVR and other player to it as well), it has selections for different souces and a slide out tray on the bottom to reveal additional functions.. no matter how good the remotes are (I mean the ones that come with the device, not the ones that are designed for universal use (like the Harmony), you're gonna keep the specialized one around "just in case". Overall, I think it does a good job, I'm sure the next generation or two will be even more integrated.

In the interim, I just put up with my better half rolling her eyes in disgust at all my remotes.
She refuses to learn more than one remote, so I try to make it work so I don't hear her complain. She's quite happy right now with just using the sat remote.. everything turns on, she can use the volume control, change stations and turn it off, thanks to the HDMI control.

Absolutely correct catapult. HDMI works fine. But the AVR just sees it as another source. It's just not specifically tied in the tv button unless you turn HDMI control off, at which point it can be programmed to the button.

hmm.. don't think a picture would help, tiger3p

I ran the HDMI and component on the sat receiver to the SC-07 (HDMI 1 and component 2).
I did this only to allow a one button operation using HDMI CONTROL. If you are not using HDMI control, just one HDMI connection is fine. Just turn on the tv/sat and SC-07..

Remember this was just to test HDMI control.. you can always program your SC-07 remote to Multi-operations.

Page 105 of the manual:
Multi Operation and System Off
The Multi Operation feature allows you to program a
series of up to 5 commands for the components in your
system. For example, you could turn on your TV, turn on
your DVD player and start playing the loaded DVD using
only two buttons on the remote control.
Similar to multi operations, System Off allows you to use
one button to stop and switch off a series of components
in your system at the same time.1

One of the very nice features I've found about this amp is it's versatility..
I liked the idea of HDMI control, so that's the route I chose, and using this particular configuration works for me.

patgilm, not at all, please see above post. This in only one configuration that I use that works for me. Vonbek777 and others had asked for information as to how it worked (HDMI CONTROL).

Absolutely! Works great. You can input your boxes to any of the programmable inputs. I was just playing with more obscure features using HDMI CONTROL. Don't feel stupid, this is a brand new full featured unit. Half the fun is learning about it. I'm loving it!

Remember there is always "Multi-operation" from the remote.. too

excerpt from page 105 of the manual:

1 While pressing MULTI OPERATION, press HOME
MENU.
The remote LCD display shows SETUP.
2 Use / to select MULTI OP or SYS OFF from the
menu and press ENTER.
If you selected Multi Operation (MULTI OP), the LCD on
the remote prompts you for an input source button.
If you selected System Off (SYS OFF), go to step 4.
3 Press the input source button for the component
that will start the multi-operation, then press ENTER.
For example, if you want to start the sequence by
switching on your DVD player, press DVD.
4 Use / to select CODE EDT, then press ENTER.
To erase any previously stored multi-operations (or
shutdown sequences) select CODE ERS above.
5 Use / to select a command in the sequence, then
press ENTER.
If this is the first command in the sequence, select 1ST
CODE. Otherwise, simply choose the next command in
the sequence. PRES KEY flashes after you press ENTER.
6 If necessary, press the input source button for the
component whose command you want to input.
This is only necessary if the command is for a new
component (input source).
7 Select the button for the command you want to
input.
The following remote control commands can be selected:
You don't need to program the receiver to switch on
or off. This is done automatically.

Not at all, don't know where you got that but I apoligize is that's what you interpreted from me. You can hook your HR-21 via HDMI, composite, S-video, or component.. it doesn't care... I was only showing one way of connecting it for HDMI CONTROL. I'm using HDMI and I'm using component

Sounds cool, Thebarnman! Any word on when your receiver is due? Lots of people waiting on comparisions between the SC-05 and SC-07!

They probably were afraid if they said compatible, people would be calling into tech support wondering why they couldn't receive or make calls from the AVR j/k
Glad it works, fubarman3, that is good information! Is it controllable through the HMG via the remote?
Does it work as advertised for the iPod in the manual?

Absolutely.. with HDMI to HDMI there is no processing, it's straight through.

via a video component other than HDMI to HDMI, you can set output to "THROUGH" and no processing is done.

I send the BDP-51FD output from the SC-07 to the TV that way (HDMI to HDMI). What is output from the blu-ray is untouched by the SC-07 on it's way to the TV.
couple of pictures are here showing plasma and blu-ray output and another here showing input source and output at 1080p/24. I think you will really really like how the SC-07 integrates with your BDP-05FD.

Ideally, that would be great.. but I don't think very many of us are lucky to have symetrical setups like that... I know mine is not. I think you will be pleasantly suprised with just using the MCACC setup.. you can fine tune it if you need to from there. Others here are more experienced with this and hopefully will offer better information.

Congratulations on your soon to arrive SC-07! Hope you will share your experiences with it here. We need more owners sharing information. Have fun!

Way cool, Mike! From what I'm reading in the 51/05 threads, the BDP-05FD is a beauty! Hope we hear about it with your new SC-07 soon. ESPECIALLY with that new home media room... it's gonna be awesome! I hate you. What kind of display are you going to be using? I think you mentioned a PRO-151FD? if so, that's gonna be one sweet setup!