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post #15361 of 17039
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

Thank you much, CHP! I remember seeing some positive comments re: them from ccotentj but not the one you linked. It would appear he is using one of them as a center channel as well. Would they be overkill for rears? Well, I see that Ascend recommends them (naturally) but this is ideal for matching timbre, etc.

Matching rears?
That's the ideal! Very few of use do that mostly cause of placement retrictions..
But matching speakers all around is about as good as you can get.
post #15362 of 17039
True...My current Elemental bookshelf package is matched in that manner (aside from the defective tweeter) but physical layout likely isn't as symmetric as it should be to maximize the surround sound effect.
post #15363 of 17039
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Originally Posted by Rieper View Post

WOW.

Is it possible that I've had 7.1 all along and was deceiving myself because the front panel was only showing the 5.1 input??? I guess I'll never know the answer to that now...

But what you're saying is a relief, because I thought I was gonna go nuts trying to output 7.1 from my SC-05.

It all makes sense now. Thanks.

You could always get up and walk over to your Surround Back channel(s) to make sure it/they are outputting with a 5.1 input.
post #15364 of 17039
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

True...My current Elemental bookshelf package is matched in that manner (aside from the defective tweeter) but physical layout likely isn't as symmetric as it should be to maximize the surround sound effect.

MCACC should take care of a lot of that for you, vinnie

With a nice setup like you're looking at, be sure to go over some of the suggestions from other members like mike placement and MCACC cal. linked on the first page to the the most out of them.
Don't forget, SW placement is important as well.

Have fun!
post #15365 of 17039
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Originally Posted by Rieper View Post

WOW.

Is it possible that I've had 7.1 all along and was deceiving myself because the front panel was only showing the 5.1 input??? I guess I'll never know the answer to that now...

But what you're saying is a relief, because I thought I was gonna go nuts trying to output 7.1 from my SC-05.

It all makes sense now. Thanks.

Just get one of the movies in the link I posted above your post and that should clear it up for you
post #15366 of 17039
I had my phono stage connected to the CD input on my SC-07 for awhile but all of a sudden, the other night when I went to play a record there was no sound coming out of the speakers.

I connected the phono stage to VIDEO1 and it worked.
I tried changing SIG SEL on the CD input but to no avail.

The only thing that I changed before it stopped working was I turned DIGITAL SAFETY to "ON" (1 and 2), but then I changed it back to "OFF". I should add the reason I changed the DIGITAL SAFETY setting was that the 07 shut down on me while I was watching a movie, similar to what happened to aseer.

I also have Cardas RCA caps on the unused inputs right beside the CD input on both sides, but they are NOT the shorting pin kind, just reg caps.
I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do w/ it but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

Anyone have an idea on what's wrong?

Thx
post #15367 of 17039
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Originally Posted by CHP_VR View Post

The Sierra's, from what I hear, are a very good choice, vinnie

Gov and ccotenj have them. ccotenj liked them so much he bought another set to match his decor!
chris' pictures unwrapping his new Sierras.

A search on this thread will turn up a few reviews like this one as well.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post14841804

Enjoy!

Actually, I have these
http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages...m/cmt340m.html
post #15368 of 17039
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Originally Posted by CHP_VR View Post

clutchrocks, Jake04Goat added your names to the list.

RickD1225, your name (SC-25) was already added 1/1/10.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...121071#anchor1

Thanks everyone for helping to keep the board up to date

Hello CHP,

Please add my name to the "list" for Pioneer SC-05 with blue light on front panel fading away.. I bought my SC-05 about a year ago, maybe 14 months from Best Buy. Purchased new/retail, not a demo or refurb. I paid full MSRP.




Here are some photos of the problem everyone is describing...






And here's a better comparison, showing the difference between my working 23FD's blue light bar, and my SC-05 receiver's fading blue light bar:

post #15369 of 17039
Thread Starter 
My mistake, Gov, sorry

Got you to post though:P

Those Ascends are awesome looking!

More choices for vinnie!

post #15370 of 17039
Thread Starter 
Rieper;

I will add you to the list tonight.

Thanks for letting us know.

Talley so far reported since 2008 (22):
SC-07 - 8
SC-05 - 9
VSX-01/03 - 2
SC-27 - 2
SC-25 - 1
post #15371 of 17039
I think it is time to send the list to Pioneer......
post #15372 of 17039
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Originally Posted by CHP_VR View Post

My mistake, Gov, sorry

Got you to post though:P

Those Ascends are awesome looking!

More choices for vinnie!


Indeed... I have these all-around, and yes, they are awesome.
(you can see the front three in the link below - that is the 600m Kuro - 60" for size reference)

I bought them before the Sierra's came out. (Upgradeitis... argh!)

shane
post #15373 of 17039
That makes sense as they're more affordable than the Sierra's and they're a fair bit larger.
post #15374 of 17039
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

That makes sense as they're more affordable than the Sierra's and they're a fair bit larger.

The 340SE's are reportedly better than the Sierra's for HT.
The Sierra's are reportedly better than the 340SE's for music.
The 340SE's will play louder due to their sensitivity and MTM design

I am very happy with my 340SE's for HT and music.

Now, back to the SC-05/SC-07 talk
post #15375 of 17039
Thanks for that summary...it has me leaning towards the 340S now since they perform admirably with both film and music.

Still enjoying my SC-05...just need to replace that rogue speaker (too broke to do it now) and redo auto-calibration.
post #15376 of 17039
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Originally Posted by CHP_VR View Post

Rieper;

I will add you to the list tonight.

Thanks for letting us know.

Talley so far reported since 2008 (22):
SC-07 - 8
SC-05 - 9
VSX-01/03 - 2
SC-27 - 2
SC-25 - 1

add me too, SC05. New Jan '09. same as Rieper's - left side blue, right side white
post #15377 of 17039
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

Both Dolby and DTS 7.1 codecs down mix inside the Pioneer to 5.1 (as will PCM sources) seamlessly.. you aren't losing anything.

are you sure about that? If thats the case then does that mean that the 7.1 im getting from the PS3 is actually being downmixed on the sc-05? I want to make that clear that its not just losing those back 2 channels.

If so then thats odd that the display show 5.1 then. I guess that the 7.1 is whats coming IN but it really should show what its outputting somewhere too.

is there any way to Verify that its downmixing the 7.1 to 5.1 and not just losing the back 2 channels? any option i can check, or test tone or something?

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Originally Posted by mhdiab View Post

Just catching up on posts and not until the last one did you get the answer that I think clears it up. MacFan quoted someone else so just reposting what he said.

The Pioneers are not showing lights for what it is outputting. It shows what comes in. So several games are now done with 7.1 which is really cool, but very few movies are.

Rent one of the movies below and you should see that the 7.1 lights up as well. The receiver will then output 5.1 if you have it setup for that

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=91824

ya i have punisher war zone from that list and like i said in my example it does show 7.1 on the reciever. It sounds like your saying the reciever automatically downmixes it to 5.1 without actually losing those back 2 channels.

but is there any way to verify this? Its odd that it doesn't show what its outputting anywhere. is there a menu option or something i can check? I cant think of a way to test it with a game or movie because it takes too long to manually switch and replay it

honestly punisher war zone was one of the best sounding movies i have and the one i played after messing with the various levels. So im assuming it is downmixing but i really would like some way to double check for piece of mind. Especially for games since positional audio is very important
post #15378 of 17039
Thread Starter 
Rieper, ToSi

Names added to list.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...eyword#anchor1

Thanks for helping to keep this updated.
post #15379 of 17039
i only have a single blue and single white on my sc-07 as well. mine was a floor model from best buy, purchased over the summer. i kind of think it was that way when i got it, but cannot be sure. oh well, it sounds awesome!
post #15380 of 17039
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Originally Posted by CHP_VR View Post

Hollywood,

Unfortunately, it sounds like you have a fried digital board in there..

Your issue sounds very similar to what Mike was experiencing here two weeks ago.

The "fix" was returning it for repair under warantee.

It does sound similar to my problem. I got mine back today but haven't hooked it up yet. Can't wait to fire it up again!
post #15381 of 17039
Thread Starter 
malmeyer,

Hook that baby up and run the heck out of it!

Glad you got it back. Hope all is well, let us know.
Also, did they tell you what they replaced on it?
post #15382 of 17039
Hello everyone! I just picked up an open box SC-05 lastnight from BB! Think I got a decent deal on it...$600. Didn't come with a remote or manual, no biggie for me. I've been trying to look for one of these for a while.

I haven't hooked it up yet, but what should I look for when I hook up the speakers? Guessing...if sound comes out? I have crappy 7 year old Yamaha speakers and power sub for now except for my center speaker Def. Tech. CLR2300.

I'm pretty sure this was a floor model...should I be concerned?
post #15383 of 17039
Ok I have the Pioneer sc-07 and I know very little about it but
it awesome after the auto calibration with blueray and pioneer plasma kuro.
Anyways.

I have a 7.1 setup in the living room.
I have another amp jvc 5.1 I want to use for the garage and outside.
It has speaker system 1 and 2 or 1 & 2 together with the press of a button
easy...

Well The sc07 is getting internet radio and I want to send the signal to
the other jvc amp. I have tried on the zone out and zone 3 out optical
with no luck. I also tried with the regular audio out from zone 2 and 3
with no luck. Read the instructions and still stuck...

I cheated and got it to work using the front out on the sco7
but when I use the volume up and down on it changes on both amps.
I just want the signal out to the 2nd amp...

If anyone understands this madness and is knows the sc-07 please help!

Thanks
post #15384 of 17039
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andyboy View Post

Hello everyone! I just picked up an open box SC-05 lastnight from BB! Think I got a decent deal on it...$600. Didn't come with a remote or manual, no biggie for me. I've been trying to look for one of these for a while.

I haven't hooked it up yet, but what should I look for when I hook up the speakers? Guessing...if sound comes out? I have crappy 7 year old Yamaha speakers and power sub for now except for my center speaker Def. Tech. CLR2300.

I'm pretty sure this was a floor model...should I be concerned?

Congratulations andyboy and welcome to the ICE Club

Hook up should be fairly straight forward, but you want to check out the front page of this thread.

You will find links to the manuals there and tips/suggestion on speaker hookups, MCACC calibrations etc. If you run into problems, we'll try to help.


The remote control, you can buy from Pioneer (kinda expensive)
http://parts.pioneerelectronics.com/...uctNum=AXD7520

Part Number: AXD7520
Description:
REMOTE CONTROL
Your Price:
$129.27

You may want to consider going back to the BB store and having them look for the remote again.

However, if you have a universal remote like a Harmony one, you can get 99% of the functions with that.
(You're gonna need one or the other to access everything)

You got a heck of a deal. Just make sure you try all the functions you can and run it hard. If you find anything wrong, take it back. You should still have a 2 year warrantee on it as well with Pioneer.

Let us know what you think of your new beast when you get it hooked up!
(pictures welcome)

But mostly have fun!
post #15385 of 17039
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayjay72 View Post

Ok I have the Pioneer sc-07 and I know very little about it but
it awesome after the auto calibration with blueray and pioneer plasma kuro.
Anyways.

I have a 7.1 setup in the living room.
I have another amp jvc 5.1 I want to use for the garage and outside.
It has speaker system 1 and 2 or 1 & 2 together with the press of a button
easy...

Well The sc07 is getting internet radio and I want to send the signal to
the other jvc amp. I have tried on the zone out and zone 3 out optical
with no luck. I also tried with the regular audio out from zone 2 and 3
with no luck. Read the instructions and still stuck...

I cheated and got it to work using the front out on the sco7
but when I use the volume up and down on it changes on both amps.
I just want the signal out to the 2nd amp...

If anyone understands this madness and is knows the sc-07 please help!

Thanks

HOME MEDIA GALLERY, XM and SIRIUS cannot be selected for
ZONE 3...

You probably want to hook up from the zone 2 of the SC-07 to your other receiver's input (analog IN/OUT).
(very similar to how you hooked it up from the front panel, only using the zone2 outputs.)

page 66 has good info on multi-zone connections and pages 68 and 69 show how to control mult-zone with either the front panel or the remote.

For volume, you want to set it as fixed, so you can control it from your JVC.
see page 95:

Fixed – Use this setting if you’ve connected a fully
integrated amplifier (such as another Pioneer VSX
receiver) in the sub room and want to use that
receiver’s volume controls.
With the Fixed setting, the source is sent from this
receiver at maximum volume, so make sure the volume is
quite low in the sub zone at first, and then experiment to
find the correct level.

Other than that, you may want to look at mhdiab's setup here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post17899698
I'm sure he can tell you all kinds of tricks he learned the hard way.. good luck!

Hope that helps.
post #15386 of 17039
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHP_VR View Post

Also, did they tell you what they replaced on it?

They replaced the digital board. And the part # matches one mentioned in post #1986 in this thread:

AWX9136 D-MOTHER ASSY

The repairman was happy that Pioneer agreed to replace the whole board, saying that trying to narrow down the exact part on the board is very time consuming.
post #15387 of 17039
Is there a way to switch speaker outputs from the Remote? From Speaker A -> Speaker B -> Speakers A & B -> None.

I tried to find this in the manual, but it doesn't appear possible. Anyone know?
post #15388 of 17039
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamHandMan View Post

Is there a way to switch speaker outputs from the Remote? From Speaker A -> Speaker B -> Speakers A & B -> None.

I tried to find this in the manual, but it doesn't appear possible. Anyone know?

I don't think there is from the remote...
However, if you're using harmony..

There's a Pronto HEX Code for SPEAKERS..
I think that's the same that's on the front panel.
REMOTE CONTROL CODE:
A556+A500
HEX CODE:
0000 0068 0000 0022 0168 00b4 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 0043 0016 0016 0016 0043 0016 06d9

Just send that information to the techs at harmony and ask them to add it to your profile.
They're usually pretty good about it and have it the next day for you.
(it may be already on there, but I don't have access to mine right now)


Hope that helps
post #15389 of 17039
does anybody have a link to a really good MCACC guide or procedure. I've read the manual and am looking for some expert advice on getting the best sound from my system.

pioneer sc-07
klipsch vf36 - fronts
bose acoustimass satellite center and rears
cerwin vega 12" sub

A basic hodgepodge of speakers. it sounds pretty good for now i just want it to be best that it can.

Any advice would be great.

Thanks ELITE guys.
post #15390 of 17039
Hello all,

Got an question on Calibration - I ran the Callibration last night after hooking my new subwoofer.

After running my calibration, i ran the test tone to see how well it was calibrated -- every speakers produced 77db but the subwoofer was at 46db. Is that normal or the subwoofer should also product close to 70db? The subwoofer was at -7.5.

Thanks.
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