Official Pioneer SC-05 and SC-07 Owners Thread - Page 565

On the Sony there is no bitstream option as it uses HDMI handshaking to decide in auto. Make sure the receiver is on before the player (or power cycle the player) and see if that helps... I had a SC-07 and used a Sony player for a bit and noticed it was tricky.

well that is reassuring. I need to turn units on in some special magic code in order to get it to display things correctly?

I have searched for half an hour and can't find an answer, so hopefully someone here can help.

I'm trying to play 24/96 files through my SC-05 via my computer.

My first question is, will the SC-05 display anything that will confirm that you are actually passing a 24/96 signal? At the moment it just says PCM.

I'm using a W7 PC with an ATI 4800 card that passes audio via HDMI. The files were flac, but I used the flac converter to convert them to wav, and then imported into itunes. I can also play them with the flac player, but there is no indication that they are 24/96 on the SC05 display using that player either.

My second question is, if I'm not passing 24/96 over HDMI, do you know what I can do to fix this?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

It's all good, I worked it out. It does say 96kHz. I just had to set the HDMI out in the properties to output at 24/96

Holy CRAP. So after just dealing with 3 different Pioneer Elite receivers not being able to send the HDMI signal to my Samsung tv, i just accepted having to use both HDMI and component cables to rig it to make it work, someone finally got me the solution to my problem, and it was as simple as an HDMI Switcher, and problem solved.

Now I was able to get rid of 4 different sets of HDMI cables..... FINALLY.

Hi All.
Figure this would be a good place to ask. I have a 3 year old SC-07. It was refurbished by Pioneer. I'm looking to sell it. I've looked on eBay but the prices are all over the place.Anyone have an idea what a fair price would be?

Thanks for any input,

Howard

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i would ask for 400, and be happy to get 350...

Thanks, Jeffrey.

Just wanted to make sure I was not missing anything. Despite this limitation the receiver sounds very very good to my ears.

Greetings!

I've been a proud owner of the SC-05 since it came out and am totally happy with it. Since owning it, I've used a 5.1 setup and decided now to try the 7.1 out just to see how it sounds. I've added two additional speakers and have re-ran through the MCACC setup. I do understand there are not a lot of 7.1 encoded movies, but I hope that changes!

Here's what I'm experiencing which I'm not sure is correct or not. Prior to 7.1, any DD (non Blu-Ray DVD) would be displayed as DD, and for example if I were to play Star Trek (the latest movie) on Blu-Ray it would show as Dolby True HD. Both of these make sense. However, since I changed my setup to 7.1, those same two movies are now being displayed as PCM +PLIIx MV. Is this normal? When checking the audio info on my PS3 while playing each of the movies, it's actually showing each as what it should be, either DD or Dolby True HD. I have my PS3 set to Linear PCM and have all codecs checked. I also have the SC-05 set to autosurround

Interestingly, if I play a Blu-Ray that's encoded in DTS, that appears to being displayed correctly.

Any help or advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks!
Randy

I have an SC-05 as well.

If I'm recalling correctly (always in doubt ), what your AVR is telling you is that it is taking the DD/DTS (which are both sent to the AVR as PCM, just like before when you were 5.1 only), and using post processing to redirect/add sound from the extra two rear channels.

So:
5.1 = DD/DTS PCM => Shows "Dolby True HD" on front since it has room, for example
7.1 = DD/TDS PCM + Dolby Prologic IIx in Movie mode to get 7.1 = shows shorthand version of effort as "PCM +PLIIx MV"

TL;DR: Your AVR is adding data to create your extra two channels, and this is the shorthand way it explains it to you via the front panel.

Thanks for the reply! So if I'm understanding you correctly, this is correct not too see the DD or Dolby True HD on the front display given the 7.1 setup? I just want to make sure that I'm not have any AVR issues, or that I don't have it configured correctly.

Hello Randy,

If your PS3 is set to PCM, then the decoding from Dolby Digital or DTS to PCM is done within the PS3. The AVR will show PCM. It CANNOT show Dolby or DTS, since it cannot know what the PCM was created from.

So if you're saying you were seeing DD or Dolby TrueHD on the AVR with your 5.1 setup, either you're recalling incorrectly, or your PS3 was set to bitstream at that time. (please, no insult intended, just stating facts )

The PLIIx is the indication that Dolby Pro Logic IIx is active, which takes a stereo or 5.1 source and creates a 7.1 signal (see p. 123 of your manual).

For DTS movie, it is possible that the PS3 does not decode DTS and sends the bitstream to the AVR.

So, in conclusion, everything sounds normal according to your settings.

Hope this helps...

Dan.

No insults taken Thank you for your advice! I read somewhere's in these millions of posts if a person has a PS3 then set it to LPCM... then on top of it, there is the fat and skinny thing just to make things more complicated. I did make that change after adding the two additional speakers to have 7.1 instead of 5.1 which probably caused the problem. I saw mine was bitstream and changed it to LPCM, but it's quite possible, I should have left to bitstream. I followed your advice and changed it (PS3) to bitstream, and after so, I re-watched Star Trek, and yes, the front display changed somewhat to DD HD + PLIIx MV instead of the PCM + the other stuff.

So, I think I'm good? Agreed?

You're good, but you were just as good before. Because you're connected through HDMI (right?) and transmitting data digitally on a connection that has the proper bandwith, whether the decoding is done in the PS3 or the AVR should have not effect on sound quality, so you did not really have a "problem" before.

Dan.

Hi all,

I have a PS3, an ATV1, and an HD-PVR connected to my SC-05 via HDMI as well as a Wii connected via component. My kids and I were playing the PS3 this afternoon when all sound abruptly cut out. I now am unable to get sound out of any of my HDMI-connected devices. However, sound is normal from the Wii.

I have tried powering down, swapping HDMI inputs (including plugging into the one previously-unused HDMI input), and using "Signal Select" to ensure that HDMI audio is selected. Video from any of my HDMI sources is flawless, but none of them have sound.

Any advice? Thanks in advance.

Welcome to the forum.

I had a similar problem but related to my set top box. All of a sudden it would cut out. I don't know why but my HDMI cable that I used for some 2-3 years with no problem all of a sudden stopped working and as soon as I swapped it out it worked fine ever since. So if you haven't already try using a different HDMI cable to see if that helps.

Anyone interested, looking to unload a mint SC-05. Shoot me a PM. This has been a great receiver!

I hope this is proper protocol for a new post. Forgive the novice if it isn't. But, I have an SC-05, with Zone 2 + amplifier connected to outdoor speakers. The only input that works for the zone is the Tuner. Are there any thoughts on why I can't play for instance the Comcast signal, the Apple TV signal, or other signals? Am I programming the inputs incorrectly? If it plays the Tuner input, why wouldn't it be able to play the Apple TV or Comcast inputs to the Zone?

Any thoughts? Much appreciated.

From HDMI?

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that'd be my guess... good call...

op, only analog external sources will go to zone 2... hdmi is a no go...

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So then, does that mean I can't get anything that is HDMI input to output in Zone 2? The receiver can't convert the HDMI input into analog output in Zone 2?

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that is correct...

if it makes you feel any better, nothing can do true zone processing from a hdmi input...

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I'll give it a shot.

SC-05 worked great last night. Turned it on today and no sound. Tried everything I could imagine, thinking the dog stepped on the remote again. No dice. The only way I can get any sound from any input is to set it to Pure Direct. I tried resetting it to factory specs and the problem persists. I did get a high-pitched squeal when clicking around to other settings a couple times. Seemed louder on some settings than others, but no sound other than the squeal, which seems to go away when you turn the receiver off.

Back to Pioneer? No warranty. Any guesses what this might be? I'm thinking something in the sound processor board. Worth the repair cost?

Can the SC-07 have different frequencies for each speaker? IE: LCRs set to 80Hz and surrounds set to 100Hz?

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no...

There is a workaround, but you will lose the Zones, just set the outdoor speakers are "Speaker B"

Speakers A and B will both get the HDMI audio.. I think.. I forget, it's been a while since I attempted to play a blu-ray, but I know when I play a CD with the audio over HDMI it works.

Is there any way to power a second set of speakers in an adjacent room (without a 2nd amp). OK, nobody laugh. I'm just using the front two channels of my SC-05. I'd love to use the same receiver to power a pair of speakers in an adjacent dining room (no walls). I know I can get a used SC-05 for spare change these days, I'd just love to not have to have another stack of boxes and don't really have space for it. I had the probably crazy idea I could switch the speaker output via the receiver, maybe using the surrounds which I don't use right now. I realize I can get an external switch, just wanted to explore my options. The zone2,3 outputs don't look like they do this.

Did you read by above post? Just use the speaker B output. I can't open the pdf here, so I can't give you the page number, but maybe someone else can.

Speaker B setup for the SC-05 is described on page 64 of the manual.

Dan.