Official Pioneer SC-05 and SC-07 Owners Thread - Page 7

Originally Posted by Thebarnman

I'm looking to buy the SC-05 more towards the end of this year. Even if I had one today, I don't see how I could help with a comparison between that and the SC-07.

I "think" the difference in amp power between the sc-05 and sc-07 is 10 Watts. I challenge anyone to be able to hear the difference between wattage between those two receivers! So power alone is not worth buying the sc-07 compared to the sc-05.

There's an extra HDMI input. (3 VS 4)? I know I don't need it.

Ok, there's this little thing about the D/A converters being of a certain type for CD playback and maybe for all digital audio playback. Depending on if that's really important for you, that alone might be worth the extra money. But I don't know if anyone would be able to hear the difference between that and "regular" D/A converters.

Someone else might be able to tell us what the differences are as far as the digital audio is concerned.

Originally Posted by MikeOC10

Cool...you almost have the same setup that I will have shortly. I have the Pro-151, the SC-05 and the BDP-51 coming in about 3 weeks when our house is finished. The only difference is I will have Verizon FiOS for TV. Are you happy with everything so far?

Originally Posted by Ken Ross

Barnman, as best as I can tell the SC-05 & 07 have the same number of HDMI inputs. The .pdf docs on both show 3 HDMI assignable inputs and 1 HDMI BD input (non-assignable). My math shows that as 4 as long as you intend to use the BD input for a BD player. But for some reason the .pdf verbiage on the 05 says '3 HDMI' inputs and on the 07, '4 HDMI' inputs. I'm guessing that's in error and both have the same number. Now the 07 does have 2 HDMI outs while the 05 has only one...if that means anything for you (it doesn't for me).

Originally Posted by sanhacker

Just curious if anyone has found any sort of "volume leveling" functionality in these new receivers?

I'm growing weary of picking up the remote every time a station goes to commercials. Especially with the DirecTV 5.1 broadcasts on the HD channels. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Thebarnman

Interesting. Do you know if the D/A converters are the same or different? And if different, would make a real difference in the audio playback?


Or is it too soon to tell?

Originally Posted by Ken Ross

Not sure if there's a difference and if so, if it's really audible. Here's a link to the .pdf docs on the 05 and 07:

07- http://www0.4electronicwarehouse.com...-07-manual.pdf
05- http://www0.4electronicwarehouse.com...-05-manual.pdf

Originally Posted by CHP_VR

From the manual:
An HDMI connection can only be made with DVI-equipped components compatible with both DVI and High Bandwidth Digital Content
Protection (HDCP). If you choose to connect to a DVI connector, you will need a separate adaptor (DVIHDMI) to do so. A DVI connection,
however, does not support audio signals. Consult your local audio dealer for more information. page 17

There are various references on the pictures to suggest HDMI/DVI connections.
It's only speculation, but it appears it should work, Mike. You just need a HDMI to DVI connector (which you have) from the SC-07 to the TV Audio shouldn't matter if you are using the SC-07/05, unless you want to use your display's speakers, then you would need to add an additional connection (analog or digital) from either the SC-07 or your HR-20 to the TV as well. Your set should be HDCP compliant. Sorry, that's all I can find. Hopefully another user with DVI equipment will confirm one way or another.
If if works now with your HR-20, I don't see why it would not work with the SC-07.. the HR-20 has HDMI out I believe.

Originally Posted by Dionyz

I do not know if anyone else noticed when looking at the picture of the back of the two receivers.
However, if you look below the power cord, you will see that both models have the same power consumption of 330 watts.

This means that both receivers have the same amplifier section and that Pioneer just gives them different power ratings to differentiate the two receivers for marketing purposes.
Also, if yuo go to the Ice-Power site, you can see that BO does not make power modules that differ by 10 watt/ch.

I would even venture to say they are completely identical inside and that Pioneer just put fewer I/O connectors on the SC-05.
THX rating can be different based on the certification that Pioneer asked for, as Select certification is probably cheaper than ultra.

Thus if you do not need the extra I/O of SC-07, you are much better off getting the SC-05, as it almost certainly is identical to the SC-07 inside.
(Cost more money to design completely different amps vs. just dropping a few I/Os)

Originally Posted by LaoChe

Is the SC-07 really 21.65 deep? I'm having a hard time finding furniture (TV stand) that will house this receiver comfortably. Anyone have any suggestions? And how can this this receiver be larger (depth wise) than the SC-09 (18.87").

Originally Posted by patgilm

I think you are reading the box dimentions. The depth of the receiver is 18"

Originally Posted by myz350

Since this is the SC-07 thread, and this is one of the final 2 units I am considering, I thought this will be a good place to get some informative answers. I have be a Pioneer Elite fan for a long time, since the first receiver the 07TX, and now own the 72TXH. But I am moving, and will be purchasing the new Sony 55XBR8, which is a 1080P display. Since my 72TXH(less than 3 years old) doesn't support 1080P, I am forced to upgrade to another receiver. Currently I have all components connected to my receiver and 1 HDMI cable to the 40XBR1 I currently have, which works great, and would expect to do the 1 cable to my TV from my next receiver, and thus the problem. Now this SC-07 will definitely solve the problem, so will the SC-05, but I want to have the flexibility of having 2 HDMI out so just incase I want to buy a front projector as well, so the SC-07 it is. Then I started reading that the SC-07 uses the Farudja chip to upscale and deinterlace the input signal, and it's not as good as the HQV chip, so my other choice is now the Onkyo TX-NR906. This unit looks like it will go head to head with the SC-07, and actually have better video performance from the things I read, and that's very important to me, as I care 60% Video quality and 40% audio quality. So why should I choose the SC-07? Don't want no flames, just want an educated decision here. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Dionyz

I do not know if anyone else noticed when looking at the picture of the back of the two receivers.
However, if you look below the power cord, you will see that both models have the same power consumption of 330 watts.

This means that both receivers have the same amplifier section and that Pioneer just gives them different power ratings to differentiate the two receivers for marketing purposes.
Also, if yuo go to the Ice-Power site, you can see that BO does not make power modules that differ by 10 watt/ch.

I would even venture to say they are completely identical inside and that Pioneer just put fewer I/O connectors on the SC-05.
THX rating can be different based on the certification that Pioneer asked for, as Select certification is probably cheaper than ultra.

Thus if you do not need the extra I/O of SC-07, you are much better off getting the SC-05, as it almost certainly is identical to the SC-07 inside.
(Cost more money to design completely different amps vs. just dropping a few I/Os)

Originally Posted by myz350

So why should I choose the SC-07? Don't want no flames, just want an educated decision here. Thanks!