Originally Posted by Aloe Vera
I really want to pull the trigger on the Pioneers, but the lack of a GUI for settings is the main thing holding me back. That and the HDMI that doesn't upconvert. Does anyone know if all the high end Denon models do the HDMI upconversion to 1080p as well as the analog?
The Denon's upconvert all inputs... It just works.
I've owned, in the last 18 months, a Denon 5308, 4308, Onkyo 905, Pioneer SC09 and now SC07...
The Denon's are great sounding receivers... a lot of other mixers use them for their home theater setups.
--"Sound quality is completely unnacceptable for this price range."--
--"Terribly harsh, gritty, and sibilant with a condensed soundstage."--
--"The desire to make this receiver sound dynamic and super treble heavy to draw the average joe (that doesn't realize his ears will bleed after a few days of subjecting himself to it), has ruined what should have been a solid performer."--
--"if you want to do some music listening, you should loook elsewhere. "--
I think that some of this might come from improper Audyssey set up... the Denon sound isn't as warm as the Pioneer.... it's isn't that bad though.
My next product will be the Denon preamp.
--"Clunky web interface"--
Last time I checked, it was the only AVR to have any web interface.... and while not polished, you can do everything you want, and tweak away... I found it pretty cool.
--"The video processing is not be the best"--
--"The unit needs plenty of cooling room beause it runs hot be careful where you place it."--
The video processing is on line with all other vendors choices... the Realta in the 5308 is pretty spectacular.
Yes... it needs plenty of room for cooling... all of these units with the newer video processors do... the Onkyos run very hot..
The Pioneer is cool to the touch if you have good side ventilation on it.
--"It took me three days and a phone call to Denon to get the FM radio to work."--
The Denon works just like the Pioneer... plug the mic in, and it runs auto setup.
If you want to tweak, there is tons to do.. but you don't need to get in there if you don't want.
Obviously the last person doesn't know how to read a manual... the Denon is unique in that it has two separate tuners for FM and HD Radio... so you can use them discretely in different zones, which is a cool feature, but requires the remote be configured for what tuner you want to use...... it requires a change on the remote, just like changing the SC07 remote to Source mode to use Home Media Gallery.
BTW. the Denon remotes aren't great... but that seems par for the course for most manufacturers now a days..
Look.. I'm not here to defend Denon in this Pioneer thread...It seems like the best solution for you and your needs
.... and I think those quotes are out of line of what most owners here have experienced.... read the owners threads.
In my room (which stinks acoustically) I benefit from the added controls of MCACC and love the way the ICE amps sound.. as I said before, I have a pretty particular ear, and liked the Denon's...