Official Pioneer SC-05 and SC-07 Owners Thread - Page 294

X-Curve is based upon psycho-acoustic analysis and large room environments. I would suggest that you try -2 to start, then play with a range -.5 to -3.5 I will bet you end up near -1 to -1.5 at most. (Actually what speakers do you have and are they toed in or straight?)

Here is a non-complex article discussing its origins:
http://www.micasamm.com/publications/surround_0100b.htm

This one actually gives a very clean perspective:
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...es-6-2002.html

Use a test source - after each adjustment - with LOTS of HIGH FREQUENCIES since the X-curve was implemented with those in mind. An opera with Arias, music with lots of high hat/cymbals (good jazz trios work nicely). Even a little Maria Carey might work. Let the SC warm up for 30 minutes on some other netral piece before each listening session. You should listen to a mix of tracks over a 10-15 minute listening period and repeat that same sequence twice for each adjustment before adjusting again. Treat it like a MCACC calibration, quiet, just you and no other presence in the room and your favorite position in the room with speakers in their final positions.

Now for some unsolicited room layout advice:

1) I would recommend moving the sub to the left (seems it is in the right front by the doorway right now?). I would move it front of or behind your left front speaker (I can't tell what's already there) and re-running MCACC first before you adjust the X-Curve. When you do step 2 you will have plenty of room. Given the size of your room some addtional bass reinforcement could not hurt.

2) I would move the entertainment center over to the right to match the middle of the couch and the room - almost. Then you can move that Right Speaker over (Right) for better imaging. Alternatively I would move the couch a bit to the left to improve imaging off axis.

3) Buy 2.0 speakers for your system for the SBR/SBL. Your room with that 7-8 feet behind the couch is PERFECT for a 7.1 system. Consider two more speakers and you will be in surround heaven. If you have unipole for your surround side you could move those to the back, set up a THX ASA speaker array (separated by less than 4 feet), and purchase maching dipoles for the sides. Then you would be just amazed. Alternatively two more unipoles in back would do wonders also...

Oh what fun...

ok i got sound to play through components but no video...

Interesting read. Thanks Charles. I wish he commented on the playback speakers and test material.

I believe the PQLS or similar system in the 59AVi-49/59TXi combo is fantastic via Firewire. I do believe it is multi-channel in that implementation though (not just two channel and 44.1khz dependent) but I am not sure.

CHP_VR Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts on my problem I was having with my SC07. You were exactly right - somehow the resolution on my player was changed from 1080i to 1080p. My TV doesn't support 1080p so the receiver was communicating the problem. I would have thought that it would have passed the 1080p to the TV and the TV would have indicated a problem. I changed the player to 1080i and so far all is well. I've been a long-time lurker on this forum and appreciate all of the helpful information.

Cheers.

I will check that out, I had thought that was Mac specific. Ok, DCHP IS on top & auto, still same problem. However, I'm wondering if I set up the WAP correctly? I do not see it on my computer. Shouldn't I? Although I don't see my PS3 either.

well, if your sc can join the network (which it seems to be able to), the wap is probably set up correctly... as far as being able to "see" it, if you go to "network neighborhood" (or whatever it's called in windows these days), you should be able to "see" everything that is on the network... you probably won't "see" the wap itself, but you should see what is connected to it...

next step is to check the router setup... it's possible it's either blocking outgoing connections, or needs some "massaging"... what router do you have?

Carl,

Did you ever see a request on your PC from Windows Media (Player or Connect in the bottom right status bar) to allow your 05 to access to your media files? If not, turn on HMG again then go to your PC and see if you see a new icon in your status bar asking you to allow it access. I had the same issue you did not realizing that my PC needed me to intervene. It was only by accident I noticed this new icon in the status bar and clicked on it then everything worked fine. I happened to have HMConnect installed on my PC but I'm assuming the same thing happens with Player as well.

eldit....jitter control/reduction was multi-channel with i-link (firewire) in the 59 AVi. PQLS is "only" offered with 2 channels with the current crop of Pio BD players. Although, that looks like it may change here shortly.

Plus, I don't know if there are different "flavors" of jitter control.

I will say the 59 AVi was one of the best sounding (if not THE BEST) DVD players I had ever encountered. Hard to do a comparison since there are so many other variables involved. 59AVi had HDMI (1.1, I believe). But, couldn't transmit hi-rez audio over HDMI. But, it did have i-link. That could transmit hi-rez audio.

BDP01/51 (not sure about the 09) can transmit both HD video and hi-rez audio via HDMI.

5 years ago, the 59 AVi was one of the best DVD players on the market. I'd go so far as to say it was also one of the best sounding, too.

Nels....we need more info. What's your display? What are your source components? How are they hooked up?

Should PCM be displayed at all times on my SC-05?

a bit more detail needed...

do you mean "regardless of source" or "specific to certain sources"?

for example, if i decode a codec in the player, i get "pcm" on the display of the sc... that would be the "expected" behaviour...

did you go back and check your cable box audio options as previously suggested?

with PS3, it will.

I have a linksys router (connected with desktop) and WAP. My laptop & PS3 operate fine. I do not "see" everything (or probably just don't know how to do it on my desktop. Desktop is running XP pro v 3. Laptop is Visa 64. Wife's laptop also xp pro. Vista is pretty straight forward (for me) & "sees" my desktop when on as well as the lynksys router but doesn't see the PS3. My desktop only "sees" my laptop for items I have set up for sharing.

I do not have windows media (xp pro) on my desktop but I have not gone upstairs to my desktop to see if anything pops up when I've tried to access HMG. I'll do that & let you know. Thanks for the input!

I just did as you suggested & ran upstairs to check my desktop & there's not anything new.

Hi icemanu,

I recommend trying to flop your entire setup so that the display and mains are against the far left wall in your sketch. It's important that the main and center speakers have symmetry with respect to side walls so that early side reflections have similar delay and attenuation. With your current setup, not only can you not center the setup along the long central axis of your room, but there is also a large early reflection imbalance due to your doorway openings.

Even more fun...

-Darrell

Remember for now we don't get hi rez SACD/DVD-A through the 51/05/09. That is really a deal braker for me on the 09. I thought the 59AVi did multil channel PQLS/Jitter control over I-link. That's why I bought one. I have to say it still is my best CD/DVD-A/SACD player to date.




Charles:

Did you order a 59AVi? Did you connect it to your SC-09TX? If so impressions vs your other players? I am so tempted to get an SC-09TX and connect a 23 and my 59AVi if it gets Multichannel PQLS for BD (though I know the 09 has some form of jitter control built in for HDMI already) but I won't pay over 3k for it. I have to wait for the price to drop or find a demo somwhere else the wife will kill me.

Eldit....I don't recall the 59 AVi having PQLS over i-link. But, it's been awhile since I had it in my system. For the record, here are the specs...

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...AVi.Kuro?tab=A

Charles.....I'm anxious to hear your impressions. Congrats!

Carl,

You can also try downloading Kinsky, or ustream:
http://oss.linn.co.uk/trac/wiki/Kinsky
http://sites.google.com/site/ustreamhome/


and see if it can see your receiver. You probably won't be able to control the receiver as the SC series does not appear to accept control directives properly, but it may help you determine if the receiver is on the network.

Yes, you better cause I am sure you are not done or ever will be done upgrading stuff.

I tried searching, so I apologize if this is in the thread already...

Can I re-assign the power-amps so that they use some of the multi-channel inputs, but do not get affected by any processing.
I have some Linkwitz Orion speakers that are now powered by a Rotel 8x40W amp. I'd like to use 4 of the SC-07 channels to power the bass modules and use the Rotel in bridge mode for the other 4 channels. This would give me more headroom...
I currently have the SC-07 powering the center and surrounds. I am using the front pre-amp outs and the LFE out the Orion crossover and subwoofer respectively.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Dale