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post #1 of 18
8/20/08 at 9:04am
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I'm planning to move from cable to Directv in the few months.

I've enjoyed immensely the move from a VCR to this product.....Thanks Wajo for your "Bible" in laymans terms on using the Philips

I've seen the connection pictures, I have no problem with understanding those, I wanted to know from the user's angle. What issues should I be aware of, that I can or cannot do, with using these products together.

I do have a HDTV (Samsung LN40A530), I currently have extended basic cable (Analog) no cable box, not concerned with OTA at this time. I mostly record different shows on different channels to watch/delete & put on to DVD. I have a DPX-7000 Video-Enhancer.

As far as Directv goes my plans are to go HD with HD receiver, not sure if I should go with a HD/DVR & then transfer to my Philips and create DVD's, or trust the Philips to do the trick ???

From what I've read, the Directv Box won't change channels, so if I want to record 2 different programs on different channels I'll need to change manually or use a USB TV Translator ??

[url="http://www.patersontech.com/products/UsbTvTranslator.aspx"]

Thanks Again for the great resource of Information

Steve
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post #2 of 18
8/20/08 at 9:24am
Shooter, going by what I've read, if you get D8TV's H20 or 21 receiver/STB, it will send widescreen (WS) stuff to the 3575 over abalog cables (comp. or S-Vid).

If you can afford the DVR, I think I'd get that just for the ability to capture and watch stuff in HD, and set timers in an integrated unit. If you rec. to the 3575, you'd have to set a STB timer as well as a 3575 timer.

With all your shows safely on the DVR, you can then make DVD copies at your leisure.

I've never read anything that said the D*TV box wouldn't change channels... I have read that you can set on times or reminders or some such that will turn the unit on and change the channel automatically???
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post #3 of 18
8/20/08 at 1:09pm
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Thanks for your feedback !!!

I'm enjoying using the Philips, that I wonder what hoops I'll have to jump through to get the same results with combining D* into the mix.

I'll be posting some 3575 questions that I have in that thread for you to peruse.

Thanks Again

Steve
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post #4 of 18
8/20/08 at 10:20pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

I've never read anything that said the D*TV box wouldn't change channels... I have read that you can set on times or reminders or some such that will turn the unit on and change the channel automatically???

You should be able to do that.
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post #5 of 18
8/21/08 at 3:28am
I am moving in the same direction. My son has direct with the hd dvr which can record two programs simultaneously. I have conflicting info on if you can also view a third, since he has not done it but he thinks you can while others say you cannot. I actually get in that situation in the am since I record local weather and sports on two dvdrs and watch the weather channel or ESPN live.

I have found that I use the dvdrs mostly for time shift and seldom for recording. DVDs are cheap now (if you wait) and there is so much new on TV that I seldom go back to view anything I have recorded. Plus, there is much more content on store bought dvds as well as better pq.
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post #6 of 18
8/21/08 at 5:48am
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

You should be able to do that.

No, you can't set it to change channels but why would you need to? Just record everything you want onto the DVR and then transfer anything you want to save to the DVDR. You can record 2 programs at the same time and watch another prerecorded program but not a 3rd live one.
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post #7 of 18
8/21/08 at 10:02am
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I have found that I use the dvdrs mostly for time shift and seldom for recording. DVDs are cheap now (if you wait) and there is so much new on TV that I seldom go back to view anything I have recorded. Plus, there is much more content on store bought dvds as well as better pq.

For those reasons and more, I find it hard to justify my recording any common TV shows to DVD any more. If I really want it the DVD will come out soon. The DVD will not have a nagging station logo plastered on my screen nor will it have scrolling news alerts, weather alerts or all manner of junk the stations scroll across the bottom of the screen. On top of that I don't have to spend my time editing commercials. Recording for timeshifting is a necessity, but if I really want to own it (and frankly those are few), I would rather buy (or rent) a "clean" copy.
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post #8 of 18
8/21/08 at 10:18am
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Originally Posted by joed32 View Post

No, you can't set it to change channels....

You can with my E* non-DVR receiver, and I thought I remembered more than one person say you could do it with the Direct models that they were using.

Maybe they weren't DVR models.
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post #9 of 18
8/21/08 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

For those reasons and more, I find it hard to justify my recording any common TV shows to DVD any more. If I really want it the DVD will come out soon. The DVD will not have a nagging station logo plastered on my screen nor will it have scrolling news alerts, weather alerts or all manner of junk the stations scroll across the bottom of the screen. On top of that I don't have to spend my time editing commercials. Recording for timeshifting is a necessity, but if I really want to own it (and frankly those are few), I would rather buy (or rent) a "clean" copy.

I agree with you .

Most of what I've been converting with the Philips, is dvr a movie from TCM..... i.e. "Little Caesar" putting onto a DVD. I rarely convert common TV shows to DVD, just time-shift those. TCM does show a logo every 20 min., I can deal with that. I've have the ability to utilitize the "clean" copy method, I would be happy with a some what decent copy of that same movie from TCM.

I guess I'm still stuck in the VCR mentality . I've converted things I recorded from PBS (Bio's about Keaton-Lloyd) that I haven't found on DVD as of yet. Also the Kevin Brownlow Hollywood series from WOR from 15 years ago.I have grow more stingy as far as what I archive. If its available on DVD, and I what it that what I'll do in combo with Netflix

I mainly interested in integration of D* with the Philips DVR3575. I grown to enjoy the DVR cababilities with editing out those commercials if I want to. I realize that I still would be able to DVR those shows on Direct's DVR, but just maybe I might want to DVD 'em with the Philips Box. Just need to decide if I should get thier DVR and utilize the editing function's of the Philips.

Thanks for Info

Steve
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post #10 of 18
8/21/08 at 12:34pm
"Mother of mercy, is this the end of Rico? Nyaah! Nyaah!"
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post #11 of 18
8/21/08 at 3:53pm
Another poster correctly pointed out that DirecTV's DVR will not auto-tune at a scheduled time. However their non-DVR receiver WILL autotune. You still have the tedious process of setting timers on both devices. On Direct's DVR, all you do is press record on your remote when you see something in the guide and you're done. It's well worth the extra initial cost and $6/month IMO. You can also record 2 things at once while watching a third recorded program. Not to mention, your DVR recordings are full HD, which is impossible on the Philips. I used to do precisely what you are considering before I had a DVR. It was a little easier since my old panasonic could control the DirecTV receiver. In fact, I had a receiver dedicated to my DVDR so it would never interfere with my live TV viewing. But I'm much happier now that I have Direct's DVR.
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post #12 of 18
8/21/08 at 4:16pm
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Another poster correctly pointed out that DirecTV's DVR will not auto-tune at a scheduled time. However their non-DVR receiver WILL autotune. You still have the tedious process of setting timers on both devices. On Direct's DVR, all you do is press record on your remote when you see something in the guide and you're done. It's well worth the extra initial cost and $6/month IMO. You can also record 2 things at once while watching a third recorded program. Not to mention, your DVR recordings are full HD, which is impossible on the Philips. I used to do precisely what you are considering before I had a DVR. It was a little easier since my old panasonic could control the DirecTV receiver. But I'm much happier now that I have Direct's DVR.

Thanks mdavej

That's one thing I've enjoyed with the Philips is the DVR part.

Have you ever desired to put anything you've DVR'd onto a DVD ??

As a big Pittsburgh Penguin fan, I put this years entire playoff run onto DVD, yes including the exciting OT game, I edited the commercials on the Philips, and I now have a record of what happened...I know they still lose I'm sure like Kelson pointed out, I probably be able to get a playoff highlight DVD, if I choose to.

In early 90's I had to limit space on VCR tapes, from the 2 cup years so I missed some exciting moments, yeah I still bought the NHL's Playoff review VHS's, but I have as-it-happen play by play on my vhs.

I strongly leaning towards the HD DVR, that D* has so, that's not the issue, I'm just looking to intergrate the two. Maybe I to Old-School

Rammitinski
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Thanks for the responses

Steve
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post #13 of 18
8/22/08 at 7:30pm
Shooter33 - I also just got an HR21-100, and love it so far, although I haven't used it a lot yet. I also just bought a Phillips 3576, and want to do exactly what you have discussed... save recorded shows to a DVD whenever I want to. My question is not whether this CAN be done, but can these 2 machines be hooked up permanently? What is the wiring scheme? Obviously the HR21 is only a HDD, so I am planning on using the Phillips for watching DVDs. I'm sure it can be done, but does anybody know the wiring setup to allow that to happen? Is it possible to keep them plugged in all the time, so I don't have to switch cables when I want to watch a DVD vs. watching the HR21??? Thanks for helping a true newbie!!!
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post #14 of 18
8/22/08 at 7:32pm
Hopefully sketch #2 in this post will help.

Click the link at the bottom of that page for many other help files.
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post #15 of 18
8/22/08 at 8:37pm
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Originally Posted by jjscheid View Post

Shooter33 - I also just got an HR21-100, and love it so far, although I haven't used it a lot yet. I also just bought a Phillips 3576, and want to do exactly what you have discussed... save recorded shows to a DVD whenever I want to.............

At least you've gone farther than I have !!!!! I haven't gone from cable to D* yet.

The drawing in the link Wajo gave you, will at least get ya started !!! Let me know how you makeout with the set-up.

My plans are to use the D* DVR to do most of Time-Shifting (60 to 70 % of the time), then if desired move from D* DVR to the Philips to create a DVD.

I feel that we're in the minority of combining D* service with the very good capabilities of the Philips, Thanks to Wajo for keeping us informed and educating us noobs !!!

My understanding is that we will be able to DVR in HD if we have the correct D* DVR, but only save to DVD in SD in the transfer process??

Steve
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post #16 of 18
8/22/08 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by Shooter33 View Post

Have you ever desired to put anything you've DVR'd onto a DVD ??

I probably transfer DVR to DVD at least once a week. Although HD is downconverted when I record it on the DVD recorder, it looks spectacular, almost as good as a commercial DVD.
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post #17 of 18
8/23/08 at 6:42am
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

You can with my E* non-DVR receiver, and I thought I remembered more than one person say you could do it with the Direct models that they were using.

Maybe they weren't DVR models.

Yep, the old RCA receivers could do it but not the new DVRs.
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post #18 of 18
8/23/08 at 6:47am
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Hopefully sketch #2 in this post will help.

Click the link at the bottom of that page for many other help files.

WAJO - thanks so much! That is a huge help... I knew it could be done, just needed the right method for doing it. just wanted to also say, I've been reading this forum for a number of months, in 'research mode' , and am impressed by not only your knowledge but everyone else's. Thanks so much for sharing - it's a great community! The amount of postings you've done by yourself on the 3575, wow - you should have a PHD by now!!
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