"Official" RX-V1900/RX-V3900 Thread - Page 178

The defaults for GEQ are flat (no adjustments to any frequency band), so it just means that YPAO set the PEQ filters to make your system sound brighter than you like. I'd recommend that anyone compare YPAO on and off after running it, because it doesn't always make things sound better. But you should also turn it back on and compare the three modes (Natural, Front and Flat), to see if you like any of them.

I'd agree with that! But usually anyone who has access to the firmare can get the corresponding document that describes the changes made in that version. So maybe they can dig that up for you.

Now I know why I liked the Yamaha 1900 before setting up the YAO and then had problem with the "forward" and "harsh" HF after setting up the YAO.

Just a heads up for anyone flashing firmware 1.13!
I did experience a problem with the hdmi switching from my ps3 after the flash. the 3900 would not display the ps3 if i just switched to the input, i had to leave it on that input and then cycle the 3900's master/main on/off switch, when it came back on it would show the ps3 picture.

I just reverted back to 1.11 by renaming the bin file to a number higher than the 1.13 version and everything else is fine now..

I have achieved very good results with a Paradigm Studio setup.

Yes, I've requested it and they have now sent it to me so I'm pleased about that as I now know what was updated.

Davecn,

could you post the document or its contents on what they changed/updated?

Already sent

Cheers

It's probably good practice to make sure all HDMI connected devices are switched off at their power supply when doing updates on the receiver.

Actually, I've had problems similar to yours previously and from my experience it causes a problem with the HDMI cable. Switching to a spare cable seems to fix the problem each time. Not sure why??

On a separate note, I moved back to Sydney from Macau 6 weeks ago and I'm still waiting for my RX-V3900 to get here (along with speakers and the rest of our items). Should be any day now............please!!!!

There's no harm in posting it here in this thread for everyone to see, I'm sure quite a few will be interested.

Service News
Audio
YAMAHA CORPORATION
P.O. BOX 1, HAMAMATSU, JAPAN

BULLETIN
NO. E-1368
RX-V3900
RX-Z7/DSP-Z7
DATE: July 2010
RELATED
BULLETIN NO.:


F/W Update re: Intermittent Audio


SYMPTOM:
1. In some case during BD disc playback, intermittent audio is output while decoding Dolby Digital.
2. In some case during MP3 music playback with USB drive, less than a second of music is cut off in the beginning.
3. Under certain setting, pop noise is output when switching DSP programs.

SOLUTION: Update to the latest firmware as shown below. Download the data from Yamaha AV
Service Information Support System website / ROM Update RX-V3900 or RX-Z7/DSP-Z7.

Advanced Setup Mode Version: 1.13
DIAG mode Version Checksum
VNP2(VIDEO) S.0101.0180 EDC140BA
M32C(MAIN) S107 D274
DSP1 05.00r -
DSP2 03.00r -
D-SUM - 3d8c8339

SERVICING: Update the firmware when brought in for service.

had problem no. 2 with 1.08, now fixed.

Is it worth to sell the RXV 1900 at a loss to buy the RXV 3900? What will I achieve in doing so?

Not to derail current conversations, but I wanted to follow-up with my experiences in my attempt to utilize the 12V trigger for speaker switching with a Niles SPK-1.

I confirmed today with Yamaha that the RX-V1900 (and 3900, I assume) only outputs 15mA on the 12V trigger. This is insufficient current to switch the Niles SPK-1, which requires 100mA.

Now I'm considering building a low-voltage relay box that senses the 15mA signal from the Yammy, in turn switching the current from a 12V wall wart to activate the SPK-1 (something like this). What a pain in the rear!

Anyways, just a heads up for anyone thinking they can use those 12V triggers to activate anything requiring a bit of power. You only get 15mA.

Interesting. I purchased an RS-232 to USB cable in order to enable the trigger out on the 1900 I recently purchased as I had read in previous posts in this thread that it may not be enabled by default. To my surprise, when I hooked it up to my Emotiva UPA-7, it triggered it on the immediately and powers it off as expected.

While this isn't the same scenario as your configuration, I wanted to mention it in case others purchase the 232 to USB cable for this specific purpose, I'd just forgot to mention it until now... -TD

I picked up an RS-232 to USB cable for programming via the Receiver Manager program, which is how I intended to control the activation of the 12V triggers by source. This seems to work great. I can set all the sources to low (no trigger signal) except for the CD and Phono inputs. Like you, I found the triggers were defaulted to "High" or "On".

The issue here is that the SPK-1 uses the 12V signal to power the relays inside the box. It's not simply "sensing" a signal, which is what your Emotiva does. Niles makes a powered sensing switch, the SAS-1, but even that requires a 20mA signal. I may try it anyway and hope the tolerance stacks on both ends of the signal path are close enough that the switch will function with a 15mA signal. I'm running out of options... so much time and expense so I don't have to physically push a button

Can this receiver pass 3D with a firmware update?

It possibly could, but I'm sure we won't see such an update from Yamaha.

I am quite happy with my 1900 now after I have every EQ manually set up to flat .

The Yamaha web-site and I believe the 1900 manual did mention that the 1900 has the ABT chip. Can you clarify it for me? If not, what video chip does it has ?

The 1900 uses the ABT 1010 video scaler which is nothing special. The 3900 uses the ABT 2010 which is much better, but I don't count on my receiver to do scaling (I have the 1800 which is almost identical internally to the 1900). I try not to watch SD TV or even DVD any more, but for DVD it's not hard to find a player that scales well, so the receiver doesn't have to.

Thank you for the clarification. So, if I use only Bluray disc, there will be no difference between the 1900 vs the 3900?

The 3900 has the option to do some processing of HDMI video (although not as many options as the Z7), but normally you would want that turned off so it passes the Blu-ray player output untouched. In that case it will be identical to the 1900 output.

I think we were just talking about video picture quality (or at least I was). The 3900 does have quite a few other non-video features that the 1900 doesn't.

I have a HP net book and a USB/ Optical converter from Turtle Beach, so the net work feature of the 3900 does not appeal to me .I am only interested in the audio/video quality of the the 1900 vs the 3900 to justify for me to sell my 1900 to buy the 3900. All the fancy DSP mode is nice to have but I rarely used them in the past even with my long gone DSAP1.

ok ok, keep your 1900 then

The last person I have sent the 1.13 FW to now is: bskultety

i second the keep the 1900 as well.

I'm very happy with mine. There are some features that are missing from the 1900 that the 3900 adds. but in the end I found the 3900 just wasn't worth it.
Things that the 3900 adds would be...
HDMI pass through while in standby (note it also adds 30 or so watts of power use)
xover frequency adjust for each channel (front, side, rear, center...)

Like I said before a page or two back: I'm very happy with the 1900.

My measurements put it at more than twice that. Keeping the web server running does the same. I wonder if the A3000 does the same?

The new models are more efficient. The A3000 doc says 2.7W with HDMI Standby Through On, and 4.5W with NET Standby On.