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post #5731 of 6030
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Originally Posted by Perdignus View Post

I think you're right, it just sounded like the YPAO sounds to me at first but I'll bet it's just malformed digital surround stream made audible.

I upgraded the firmware and this problem seems to be resolved now. Thanks.

Here are some shots of my setup:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/foru...for-jbl-l820-s
post #5732 of 6030
Wow?! its been awhile since I have posted but I guess with everything running smooth iv been a happy camper. So I now turn to this site/thread for some help or ideas, long story short I watched TV 3 times the other day and on the third time my 3900 turned on "main" showed on the display (as usual) and immediately the receiver shut down nothing else shows not protection light nothing! I have disconnected everything from it and it still shuts down the only thing I can say is there is a nice electrical "hum" just before it shuts off. Any one have any ideas an what could of happened? it's 6 months shy of 2 years old. This sucks !
post #5733 of 6030
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Originally Posted by mrfranc View Post

I have an Oppo BDP-93 connected via HDMI and RCA. It sends mc via HDMI and down mix to stereo on the RCA for my other zones.

I attached an ipod through a cable that splits to RCA ends and have hooked them up to the "CD" input. My main zone will play the music and none of the other zones play music. The zones are on and lit via main front panel. I have them set to get their input from "CD". I must just be missing something as I configured everything from the manual. Is the CD input not considered analog or do I have to turn something else off for it to send analog to the other zones?
post #5734 of 6030
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Originally Posted by bel4_20 View Post

Wow?! its been awhile since I have posted but I guess with everything running smooth iv been a happy camper. So I now turn to this site/thread for some help or ideas, long story short I watched TV 3 times the other day and on the third time my 3900 turned on "main" showed on the display (as usual) and immediately the receiver shut down nothing else shows not protection light nothing! I have disconnected everything from it and it still shuts down the only thing I can say is there is a nice electrical "hum" just before it shuts off. Any one have any ideas an what could of happened? it's 6 months shy of 2 years old. This sucks !

Sorry to here this...warranty??? I was going to get the 3900 but the more I read about Any AVR that goes on line seemed to have more problems then one that does Not. So far my 1900 is doing great.
post #5735 of 6030
Well if the warranty is 2 years I got 6 months(scrap that i read the date wrong im 6 months over). I will first thing in the morning contact my Yamaha repair service center. I am dissatisfied for sure i have never had a receiver go on me.
post #5736 of 6030
What about mic placement for listening positions that are outside of my front left and right. I have seating arranged in a horseshoe configuration with the large couch facing the center; I can get 3 measurements from the couch. I have a loveseat to the left and a chair to the right both angled forming the "U" shape but these seats fall outside of the mains on either side. Is it OK to include these seating positions in the measurements? Audyssey says not to do this but I couldn't find Yamaha's recommendation.
post #5737 of 6030
What firware version are we supposed to be upto now?

I think i'm still on 1.08 and lookin on yamaha's website it only shows 1.08 as the most current???
post #5738 of 6030
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Originally Posted by naughtybutnice View Post

What firware version are we supposed to be upto now?

I think i'm still on 1.08 and lookin on yamaha's website it only shows 1.08 as the most current???

Your post got me to thinking. So I looked to see if the 1900 had a firmware update.......None.No mention of what the verison is . ( A Good thing) I was told the 1900 had the same amps and HDMI parts as the 3900 that would go online where the 1900 does Not. One of the main reason for the price increase over the 1900. I wanted the 3900 but no good deals back then. Super Happy with 1900.Small room and old Klipsch that don't need a lot of power.Great Bluray movies. My second Yamaha AVR. my old 2400 7.1 non HD or HDMI (2003 model) still works great in bedroom. Hope this 1900 HD lasts as long. Good luck with the 3900.
post #5739 of 6030
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

Your post got me to thinking. So I looked to see if the 1900 had a firmware update.......None.No mention of what the verison is . ( A Good thing) I was told the 1900 had the same amps and HDMI parts as the 3900 that would go online where the 1900 does Not. One of the main reason for the price increase over the 1900. I wanted the 3900 but no good deals back then. Super Happy with 1900.Small room and old Klipsch that don't need a lot of power.Great Bluray movies. My second Yamaha AVR. my old 2400 7.1 non HD or HDMI (2003 model) still works great in bedroom. Hope this 1900 HD lasts as long. Good luck with the 3900.

I too, have an old 2400 and a 3900 and I'm nappy to inform you that the 2400 is an HD receiver through component video in/out.

Cheers
post #5740 of 6030
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Originally Posted by Ralarcon View Post

I too, have an old 2400 and a 3900 and I'm nappy to inform you that the 2400 is an HD receiver through component video in/out.

Cheers

I run my HDMI from Verizon FIOS HD box to HD AVR for decoding HD signal.
I run a second HDMI from Bluray player to HD AVR and I use the $1,399.00 (retail) HD AVR decode all the A/V rather then use as a pass thru from $200.00 Samsung BR player..... I was thinking the more expensive AVR with HD audio decoders would send a better signal to my speakers and upscale video would look better..... The 2400 does Not have HD audio decoders in it. Pass thru 1080P video but only have 5.1 DD sound. We trid and all I got was DD 5.1 on a Bluray to 2400 when Onkyo 805 HD died. Have I missed something???
post #5741 of 6030
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post
I run my HDMI from Verizon FIOS HD box to HD AVR for decoding HD signal.
I run a second HDMI from Bluray player to HD AVR and I use the $1,399.00 (retail) HD AVR decode all the A/V rather then use as a pass thru from $200.00 Samsung BR player..... I was thinking the more expensive AVR with HD audio decoders would send a better signal to my speakers and upscale video would look better..... The 2400 does Not have HD audio decoders in it. Pass thru 1080P video but only have 5.1 DD sound. We trid and all I got was DD 5.1 on a Bluray to 2400 when Onkyo 805 HD died. Have I missed something???
No you have not , what I meant is that it is capable of passing through an HD video signal, however it does not decode the latest losless audio codecs. Your stetement is correct.

Cheers
post #5742 of 6030
Is the 3900 capable of HDMI 1.4 via firmware updates or is HDMI 1.4 strictly a hardware upgrade ?
post #5743 of 6030
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Originally Posted by naughtybutnice View Post

Is the 3900 capable of HDMI 1.4 via firmware updates or is HDMI 1.4 strictly a hardware upgrade ?

If you mean could the 3900 pass 3D video with a firmware update, then maybe, but it's not going to happen. Yamaha does not have a history of giving away free upgrades. They want you to buy a newer model instead.
post #5744 of 6030
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

If you mean could the 3900 pass 3D video with a firmware update, then maybe, but it's not going to happen. Yamaha does not have a history of giving away free upgrades. They want you to buy a newer model instead.

Is there a difference in the HDMI cables? I am not into 3D. I like it at a Imax but I wear glasses, two pair on to watch TV, pass. Spent enough
on HD Bluray and all the DVD DD5.1.
post #5745 of 6030
The 1900 and 3900 are HDMI 1.3. You can't change that just by using a different cable.
post #5746 of 6030
Anyone get the Yamaha AV Control App to work with their RX-V3900? The app will not find my receiver even after setting network to ON in the standby section. I see the yamaha get an IP from my router
post #5747 of 6030
Hi all

I hope somone can help as i own a yamaha 3900 and wanted some help.

I want to connect my htpc to my amp that uses hdmi and I want to use the pass through option so that when the amp is turned off it still sends the picture and sound to my tv.

Q1 will the amp down sample the hd audios and dts tracks to stereo to my tv as my tv only supports stereo and don't want the sound to be passed to the tv in dts as it might not sound right will it downmix the audio to stereo and have a good audio level?

Q2 Can anyone explain the hdmi out fix and last ? I read it in the book but I just don't understand what it means. Any help

Q3 Also in off mode can u use the upscaler as well or only when the amp is on ?

Q4 can you send 24 NTSC videos to the amp and then to the tv in through mode and scaler mode ? as the book says NTSC 60hz but i send all my NTSC as 24 as tehre in 24 frames a sec

thanks for any help

cheers
post #5748 of 6030
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Originally Posted by RSVRMAN View Post

I attached an ipod through a cable that splits to RCA ends and have hooked them up to the "CD" input. My main zone will play the music and none of the other zones play music. The zones are on and lit via main front panel. I have them set to get their input from "CD". I must just be missing something as I configured everything from the manual. Is the CD input not considered analog or do I have to turn something else off for it to send analog to the other zones?

I wanted to do the stereo/RCA thing too using an iPod Touch. This way I'll be able to use the Touch's screen to do the album art scrolling and not have to use the 3900s UI. Does anyone have any experience comparing the sound quality differences between using the iPod dock vs. stereo2RCA inputs?
post #5749 of 6030
I use the Bluetooth accessory and the sound is perfect. plus it's of course wireless so you can use the touchscreen from wherever you're sitting.
post #5750 of 6030
is there a way to get all hd audios and dts audios to play in stereo to teh tv when the amp is off so basicly the amp is downsampling the audio to 2 stereo as at teh moment when i turn the amp off i am getting no sound whenn playing anything othere than mono or stereo ?

thanks
post #5751 of 6030
I never thought I would do it bu I finally broke down and got a 3D TV and 3D Bluray player because I wanted a full Smart TV. It helped that BB was including a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 with the purchase. Well since the 3D won't work with my 3900 I am thinking of selling my 3900 and getting a 3D capable AVR. I still have the original box and everything. The 3900 is like new. I would also be willing to trade it for a high end 3D AVR, preferably a Yammy. Any takers, please PM or email me with an offer.
post #5752 of 6030
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Originally Posted by harvro01 View Post

I use the Bluetooth accessory and the sound is perfect. plus it's of course wireless so you can use the touchscreen from wherever you're sitting.

Thanks. I almost got really excited about this until I read all the terrible reviews about a high-pitched squeal/whine when using the YBA-10 bluetooth receiver. Maybe it's back to the stereo2RCA solution...
post #5753 of 6030
Hi.
Is there a firmware update improvement list somewhere?
I just upgraded my Receiver firmware from V-1.11 to V-1.16 and I don't know what good this change did to me.
Regards
post #5754 of 6030
Firmware version 1.18 is now up on the Yamaha US site, the PDF file included with the update does not give any info on the improvement made by the update.

It's not on the network update yet, I updated my 3900 a few hours ago and got v1.17.

Does anyone have v1.17 they could send me, I didn't get around to downloading it from the Yamaha site.
post #5755 of 6030
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Originally Posted by Meridius View Post


Q1 will the amp down sample the hd audios and dts tracks to stereo to my tv as my tv only supports stereo and don't want the sound to be passed to the tv in dts as it might not sound right will it downmix the audio to stereo and have a good audio level?

I thought in through mode the AVR sends the EDID data from the TV untouched, so the TV should tell the source to only send 2-channel audio in a format the TV can support.

Maybe there is some setting on the source that needs adjusting, I have not used standby passthrough on my 3900 so have no experience on how it does actually work.

Maybe someone that know how this function works can offer some more assistance.

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Q2 Can anyone explain the hdmi out fix and last ? I read it in the book but I just don't understand what it means. Any help

Fix = It will always be on the input specified in the HDMI through menu.

Last = It will be on the last input used before putting the AVR into standby.

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Q3 Also in off mode can u use the upscaler as well or only when the amp is on ?

Yeah the AVR needs to be on to make use of the upscaling.
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Q4 can you send 24 NTSC videos to the amp and then to the tv in through mode and scaler mode ? as the book says NTSC 60hz but i send all my NTSC as 24 as tehre in 24 frames a sec

NTSC @ 24fps? What is the resolution of the videos?
post #5756 of 6030
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Originally Posted by qhp310 View Post

Hi.
Is there a firmware update improvement list somewhere?
I just upgraded my Receiver firmware from V-1.11 to V-1.16 and I don't know what good this change did to me.
Regards

Here is the info from the firmware update files I have, I'm missing info for v1.09 & v1.17.

I included all the updates I have for reference.

v1.05
This firmware will include improvements on power-ON sequence and other system operations.

v1.07
Album art display on the GUI menu for USB and PC music playback
Improvements on HDMI and iPod connectivity

v1.08
Additional connectivity with MusicCast2 through network connection.
Improved stability when using HDMI connections.
Improved stability when using network functions.
Improved multi-zone function.

v1.10
Improved general functionality including:
o Improved remote control responsiveness
o Improved HDMI repeater capability
Improved network functionality including:
o Added ability to browse network content with MCX-RC100 when Zone OSD is OFF
o Better compatibility with certain DLNA servers that did not show network content list
Improved RS-232c communications including:
o Improved response time of Volume UP/DOWN command
o Improved response time of metadata feedback
o Improved response time of feedback inquiry

v1.11
This firmware improves HDMI standby through function.

v1.13
SYMPTOM: 1. In some case during BD disc playback, intermittent audio is output while decoding
Dolby Digital.
2. In some case during MP3 music playback with USB drive, less than a second of
music is cut off in the beginning.
3. Under certain setting, pop noise is output when switching DSP programs.

SOLUTION: Update to the latest firmware as shown below. Download the data from Yamaha AV
Service Information Support System website / ROM Update RX-V3900 or
RX-Z7/DSP-Z7.

v1.16
This new firmware improves;
1. NET/USB Playback Function
2. HDMI Video Output.
post #5757 of 6030
Thank you so much
Where did you find this firmware info?
Regards
post #5758 of 6030
You could get them from Yamaha websites, but most only have the latest version for that region.
The US site has v1.18, the Aus site v1.16 the Canadian site v1.16 as well.

If you need any of the other versions post which ones and I'll upload for you.
post #5759 of 6030
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Originally Posted by Blackrose666 View Post
I thought in through mode the AVR sends the EDID data from the TV untouched, so the TV should tell the source to only send 2-channel audio in a format the TV can support.

Maybe there is some setting on the source that needs adjusting, I have not used standby passthrough on my 3900 so have no experience on how it does actually work.

Maybe someone that know how this function works can offer some more assistance.



Fix = It will always be on the input specified in the HDMI through menu.

Last = It will be on the last input used before putting the AVR into standby.



Yeah the AVR needs to be on to make use of the upscaling.


NTSC @ 24fps? What is the resolution of the videos?
the NTSC movies are 480 dvds

the sound that i passthrought is from a HTPC using XBMC but it does not seem to go into stereo mode is does from a dvd player mm thought it was the amp must be a EDID problem with xbmc or somthing.
post #5760 of 6030
After 2 years of unfaltering performance and service, Ive decided to try another receiver...no reason really other than just to satisfy curiosity. The 3900 is a fantastic piece of gear and undoubtedly one of Yamaha's best. If close to the 379 zip pm me with questions or interest.
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