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post #5851 of 6030
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Originally Posted by sawmill View Post

Tried to update my 3900 from 1.17 to 1.18 via net. Even though it worked earlier, it now says its okay. Tried USB but it failed to recognize download from Yamaha. If anyone would have any idea why the network update will not work, please advise. Wonder if Yamaha could possibly have changed their network address. My network works for Roku and others. In other words I still have 1.17-----

Not sure why the Yamaha download is not working directly from your 3900 but you can download it from here on your PC:

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio..._u/?mode=model

Click "Support" at the bottom of the page. The 1.18 download link and USB installation instructions are on that next page. You will need a Yamaha Easypass account. It will let you create one if you don't have one.
post #5852 of 6030
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Originally Posted by sawmill View Post

Tried to update my 3900 from 1.17 to 1.18 via net. Even though it worked earlier, it now says its okay. Tried USB but it failed to recognize download from Yamaha...

Make sure the USB stick is formatted as FAT (e.g. NTFS won't work). The .bin file has to be unzipped into the root directory (and to be sure I would even delete any other files on the stick).
post #5853 of 6030
Thanks to all for the heads up about the version 1.18 update. When I tried to download it via my network, the 3900 gave me an indication that the update was in progress but a few seconds later gave me the "UPDATE OK" indication. When I checked the Firmware Version, though, it was still 1.17. I then downloaded version 1.18 to my computer and copied it to my USB drive, which I had previously formatted to FAT. This time everything worked and about 10 minutes after the download began and "UPDATE OK" came up again. This time, though the firmware had been updated to version 1.18. It was all just as brutal as I had recalled earlier firmware upgrades being but it worked, so I am happy.
post #5854 of 6030
Thanks to kriktsemaj99 and drew.c for inspiring me continue trying to upgrade. Finally got it to take after about 5 trips to theatre from computer. Since I'm on threshold of my eighth decade, the exercise probably did some good. I think after Yamaha discontinues manufacturing certain models, they probably drop the network connection. Anyway after just installing a new lamp to projector and getting this upgrade, I am pretty satisfied, until at least the next challenge.
post #5855 of 6030
Is a RX-V1900 worth $550? I have the chance to buy a new in box, but B stock unit. Or $450 for a used. My RX-V4600 died, & I''m looking for something similar to replace it with. It's got the same power & features, & I don't have any tech to be able to use the new features of newer units so why should I pay for them? Basically all I want is power for my big speakers & to watch blu rays through my 5 speakers.
post #5856 of 6030
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02cls View Post

Is a RX-V1900 worth $550? I have the chance to buy a new in box, but B stock unit. Or $450 for a used. My RX-V4600 died, & I''m looking for something similar to replace it with. It's got the same power & features, & I don't have any tech to be able to use the new features of newer units so why should I pay for them? Basically all I want is power for my big speakers & to watch blu rays through my 5 speakers.

Yes.. if you can get warranty(just to make sure it works B stock ) most B stock are just returns from Buyer remorse on these models. The 1900 is a solid design and by not going online there have not been any Firmare upgrade from Yamaha.... Mine has been a plug and play for several years now. I am retired and it and my flatt screen are on all day and evening so it gets a work out. I don't stack on it and have a fan for it.I have a 5.2 HT system (old Klipsch Cornwalls and HeresyII) and I use the AVR amps.small 12X14 room.
Spend the extra 100 bucks and get the new one.IMO In 35 years I have owned seperates,SS and tubes. For a AVR in this price range it is a good one with clean amps. I have R2R and TT, it plays "Straight Analog" great (Burr brown DAC)has a warm tone to it for SS pre/amp and amps.(no processor)
post #5857 of 6030
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02cls View Post

Is a RX-V1900 worth $550?

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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

Yes.. if you can get warranty(just to make sure it works B stock ) most B stock are just returns from Buyer remorse on these models. The 1900 is a solid design and by not going online there have not been any Firmare upgrade from Yamaha....

+1.

However... if you're not in a hurry, and if you're interested in the latest models, you may want to wait a couple of months until their prices drop. Last year you could get a RX-A1000 for $600~650 around July 4th (I got one for a little more). I believe the A1010 should follow the same path this year. Some people got the A2000 for $900 a few weeks earlier than that, and some got even better deals after that, on clearance sales. Just stay tuned to Amazon, Newegg, Electronics Expo, etc. (subscribe to them if you don't mind receiving some extra e-mails, then you'll get the coupons).

VMat
post #5858 of 6030
RX-V1000 is less WPC and only 5.1 ........ for my system the 1900 130X7 is better. I have Cornwalls for fronts, Heresy II rear, RS3-II sides, RC-62 center and two Klipsch subs. Looking at a RC-64II center, the reference Series surrounds I have could stand having 30 WPC extra head room.... now the Advantage A2000(2010) or 2010 (2011) is a better fit(for me) for HT AVR. If you have a big room you will see HT Blurays "make" you use more amp for loud special effects.When I play my Bluray HD audio I go deeper in the volume for 95DB then when I play CD music for 95 DB. I had a 100 WPC AVR and sent it back for one with more WPC so I was not maxing it out on movies.. Good idea Vmat, waiting for the newer one's to come out... as that is how I buy my AVR/TV. Advantage line came out and the RX-V1900 and 3900 prices droped big time from retail back then in late 2009 or so. My 1900 has been a plug and play for several years now.I have had great luck with Yamaha AVR. I have 2003.. RX-V2400 7.1 AVR ...non HDMI or HD.it is in the bedroom system still working.

EDIT I did not see the HD audio of any kind in the specs on the RX-V1000.
post #5859 of 6030
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

RX-V1000 is less WPC and only 5.1 ........ for my system the 1900 130X7 is better. I have Cornwalls for fronts, Heresy II rear, RS3-II sides, RC-62 center and two Klipsch subs. Looking at a RC-64II center, the reference Series surrounds I have could stand having 30 WPC extra head room.... now the Advantage A2000(2010) or 2010 (2011) is a better fit(for me) for HT AVR. If you have a big room you will see HT Blurays "make" you use more amp for loud special effects.When I play my Bluray HD audio I go deeper in the volume for 95DB then when I play CD music for 95 DB. I had a 100 WPC AVR and sent it back for one with more WPC so I was not maxing it out on movies.. Good idea Vmat, waiting for the newer one's to come out... as that is how I buy my AVR/TV. Advantage line came out and the RX-V1900 and 3900 prices droped big time from retail back then in late 2009 or so. My 1900 has been a plug and play for several years now.I have had great luck with Yamaha AVR. I have 2003.. RX-V2400 7.1 AVR ...non HDMI or HD.it is in the bedroom system still working.

EDIT I did not see the HD audio of any kind in the specs on the RX-V1000.

I have an rxv-2200, 2400 and the 3900 all in use and working perfectly. I think its a testament to Yamaha's build quality in their mid to high end AVR's.

Cheers
post #5860 of 6030
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I have an rxv-2200, 2400 and the 3900 all in use and working perfectly. I think its a testament to Yamaha's build quality in their mid to high end AVR's.

IDK, my RX-V4600 died out of the blue & it wasn't even used much. Worked one day & a week later won't keep power on. Clicks off a sec after powering it on. Not worth the $ to try & fix it.
post #5861 of 6030
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02cls View Post

IDK, my RX-V4600 died out of the blue & it wasn't even used much. Worked one day & a week later won't keep power on. Clicks off a sec after powering it on. Not worth the $ to try & fix it.

Sorry to hear this. I had the same problem with a 2007 Onkyo TX-SR 805 HD 7.1 AVR after a year and several trips for warranty later it too fried sold it for parts. I think the 4600 is not a HD model like the 1900/3900 different chassic etc... Have you had the main fuse looked at inside? Spikes in your supply from wall at night or a storm or who knows.Maybe You just got a lemmon...... how old is the 4600? I had to Google the Yamaha Factory site to look at specs on it. And I thought I knew a lot about Yamaha AVR's
post #5862 of 6030
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02cls View Post

IDK, my RX-V4600 died out of the blue & it wasn't even used much. Worked one day & a week later won't keep power on. Clicks off a sec after powering it on. Not worth the $ to try & fix it.

In my case, the 2200 has been in continuous daily use for 10 years, the 2400 was stored for 2 years, and 1 year ago placed back in service without a glitch, the 3900 has been in continuous daily use since 2009 without any problems whatsoever. I must say I have now and have had for 11 years, whole house electrical spike protection combined with UPS at each of my AV setups. This is in the state of Florida, well known for lightning and severe electrical fluctuations, especially in summer.

Cheers.
post #5863 of 6030
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Originally Posted by maxtimein View Post

Re: RX V1900 volumn issue...thanks again Louis for in depth advice for reset etc...found 2nd remote it worked perfect which is good news at least its not the receiver but the main remote which has new batteries...but Im still left with it was working fine before...maybe it was dropped on the floor harshly at some point during the receiver absence...the buttons dont stick....im finding now that sometimes if you press the + or - buttons and hold them eventually they kick in and the vol goes up/down if not the vol command just stops and the screen goes back like you didnt do anything....just seeing if these characteristics are familiar to anyone and they may have found a solution, Thanks, Max

I know this is a bit older but I thought Id chime in. Mine is a HTR-6290 (RX-V1900) and it has been awesome for a few years now. I too have the remote volume problem on the larger remote, the small remote works great though. Its probly just dirty contacs but I thought Id probably end up breaking the remote if I tried to pop it open, all other functions work.
post #5864 of 6030
Has any one tried an Oppo bdp-95 with the RX-V1900 or HTR-6290 or what ever Yammy
Im thinking about getting one. Id like to find an excellent used one, but that seems to be a tall order in Canada. I could go for an Oppo bdp-93 for a fair bit cheaper. I do have Energy Veritas V1.8 speakers so Id really like to try the dedicated audiophile analogue outputs of the 95
post #5865 of 6030
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

RX-V1000 is less WPC and only 5.1 ........ for my system the 1900 130X7 is better. I have Cornwalls for fronts, Heresy II rear, RS3-II sides, RC-62 center and two Klipsch subs. Looking at a RC-64II center, the reference Series surrounds I have could stand having 30 WPC extra head room.... now the Advantage A2000(2010) or 2010 (2011) is a better fit(for me) for HT AVR. If you have a big room you will see HT Blurays "make" you use more amp for loud special effects.When I play my Bluray HD audio I go deeper in the volume for 95DB then when I play CD music for 95 DB. I had a 100 WPC AVR and sent it back for one with more WPC so I was not maxing it out on movies.. Good idea Vmat, waiting for the newer one's to come out... as that is how I buy my AVR/TV. Advantage line came out and the RX-V1900 and 3900 prices droped big time from retail back then in late 2009 or so. My 1900 has been a plug and play for several years now.I have had great luck with Yamaha AVR. I have 2003.. RX-V2400 7.1 AVR ...non HDMI or HD.it is in the bedroom system still working.

EDIT I did not see the HD audio of any kind in the specs on the RX-V1000.

My bad... I'm terribly sorry, I meant RX-A1000, from Aventage 2010 line (already edited my post). The RX-V1000 is much older (more than 10 years, I think...).

VMat
post #5866 of 6030
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Originally Posted by darcman View Post

Has any one tried an Oppo bdp-95 with the RX-V1900 or HTR-6290 or what ever Yammy

Im thinking about getting one. Id like to find an excellent used one, but that seems to be a tall order in Canada. I could go for an Oppo bdp-93 for a fair bit cheaper. I do have Energy Veritas V1.8 speakers so Id really like to try the dedicated audiophile analogue outputs of the 95

Did you purchase a Oppo??
post #5867 of 6030
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

Did you purchase a Oppo??

Ya I just ordered one from Toronto. Why do you ask?
post #5868 of 6030
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Originally Posted by darcman View Post

Ya I just ordered one from Toronto. Why do you ask?

I have been looking at used Oppo as my Samsung Bluray that is 4 years old is getting really noisey when it reads a disc. I have a few SACD

and wondered if the new Oppo worked well with the 1900 I have now Post up when you get is set it and let us know how you like it.

I am trying to justify spending that much money for a Bluray/Music disc player.
post #5869 of 6030
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Originally Posted by Louis Bartay View Post

I have been looking at used Oppo as my Samsung Bluray that is 4 years old is getting really noisey when it reads a disc. I have a few SACD
and wondered if the new Oppo worked well with the 1900 I have now Post up when you get is set it and let us know how you like it.
I am trying to justify spending that much money for a Bluray/Music disc player.

Well as you know the 95 cost twice as much as the 93
I was first looking at the 93 and thought I could almost buy 2 PS3s for its cost
My speakers are really kick ass and my emotiva is really a reference amp, better than the current stuff So I just decided to splurge for the 95. I read probably every review and forum on the OPPOs and they both sound great, especially the 95. If you dont have higher end gear the 95 would be a waste.
I didnt really look at other brands of blu ray/music players, Ive wanted an OPPO for a while. You know by all accounts the PS3 is a pretty good all around player, I dont think it plays SACDs though and you cant play flac files directly, but you can stream flac files to a PS3 via pc with PS3 media server. I will post something when I get the 95.
post #5870 of 6030
The good thing about both the Oppo 93 & 95 is that you don't obsolete your RX-V3900 for 3D blu-rays. Plug one of the Oppo's HDMI's into the RX-V3900 and the other one into your 3D compatible TV and the 3900 doesn't "get in the way" of the 3D capability of the Oppo. That's why I bought the 93 (I had a very nice BDP-83SE high-end Oppo before).
post #5871 of 6030
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Originally Posted by byungjaykim View Post

The good thing about both the Oppo 93 & 95 is that you don't obsolete your RX-V3900 for 3D blu-rays. Plug one of the Oppo's HDMI's into the RX-V3900 and the other one into your 3D compatible TV and the 3900 doesn't "get in the way" of the 3D capability of the Oppo. That's why I bought the 93 (I had a very nice BDP-83SE high-end Oppo before).

Do you miss the dedicated analogue outputs of the 83se or how do you find the hdmi audio of the 93 compared to the analogue audio of the 83se for 2 channel listening?
post #5872 of 6030
Just a quick question from a 1900 owner. I currently run all my music via my PC (JRiver Software) via usb to an Audiophilleo2 (USB to S/pdif converter) directly into the V1900 Brown/Burr dacs. I use the 1900 as a preamp into a 5ch power amp
If I want to buy a stand alone Dac (Metrum Octave) and run it into the 1900, I take it the Dacs in the 1900 still come into play and can't be bypassed due to the lack of a HT bypass on the 1900. Is that correct? Is there any way of bypassing the 1900 Dacs when using an external standalone DAC?

Regards Cazzesman
post #5873 of 6030
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Originally Posted by Cazzesman View Post

Just a quick question from a 1900 owner. I currently run all my music via my PC (JRiver Software) via usb to an Audiophilleo2 (USB to S/pdif converter) directly into the V1900 Brown/Burr dacs. I use the 1900 as a preamp into a 5ch power amp
If I want to buy a stand alone Dac (Metrum Octave) and run it into the 1900, I take it the Dacs in the 1900 still come into play and can't be bypassed due to the lack of a HT bypass on the 1900. Is that correct? Is there any way of bypassing the 1900 Dacs when using an external standalone DAC?
Regards Cazzesman

I basically want to do the same thing with the oppo 95
I think its just analogue inputs and pure direct
post #5874 of 6030
I sent my question to Yamaha and they got back to me within the hour.

Thanks for your question,

You can use the external DAC and run it into any or the analogue audio in puts, this will bypass the internal DACs,

It looks like the (Metrum Octave) is only stereo, so you will only get stereo through the amp ,


Regards Cazzesman
post #5875 of 6030
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Originally Posted by Cazzesman View Post

I sent my question to Yamaha and they got back to me within the hour. ...

You can use the external DAC and run it into any or the analogue audio in puts, this will bypass the internal DACs ...

Stereo analog inputs only bypass the internal DACs if you use Pure Direct mode. Otherwise they get digitized, go through the DSPs, and finally the Yamaha DACs. This diagram is for an older model, but it's the same on the 1900/3900.
post #5876 of 6030
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Stereo analog inputs only bypass the internal DACs if you use Pure Direct mode. Otherwise they get digitized, go through the DSPs, and finally the Yamaha DACs. This diagram is for an older model, but it's the same on the 1900/3900.

Thanks for the diagram. I have been recording with the R2R and wired my Yamaha CD player with RCA to 1900 and my R2R to tape in and out on my 1900 and I had cheep DAC that hooked inbetween the AVR and the R2R.
And I use Pure mode for doing this as my I like the way analog sounds on my old Klipsch Cornwall speakers. I un hooked the in line DAC and Burr Brown DAC in the 1900 sounds the same on my recordings???

My question is will a more expensive DAC make my recordings sound better??
post #5877 of 6030
I'm not quite sure how you've connected everything, but if you're using the analog RCA output of your CD player then the DACs in that player come into play as well.
post #5878 of 6030
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

I'm not quite sure how you've connected everything, but if you're using the analog RCA output of your CD player then the DACs in that player come into play as well.

I have a inline DAC that has many different styles of digital and RCA connectors on it to let use different devices to record to R2R(I only use RCA). I have that DAC inbetween the 1900 (tape In and OUT) going to DAC then to Revox R2R. And a

Yamah CD changer that matched the 1900 I have hooked up RCA from it to 1900. I was told this way on PURE I was all analog when sending music from CD player (RCA) thru the 1900 to R2R???? I removed the inline DAC. I am all RCA to R2R from 1900 tape In and OUT.It sounds the same??

I was going to use 1900 as a pre/pro and purchase different amps and then I read about the expensive DAC for recording to my R2R with my 1900??? The internal DAC sounds pretty good on my system in small room so my whimpy AVR amps will do for now,.So I had more to spend on a DAC...if I really need it???? Did I explain it OK???
post #5879 of 6030
I wouldn't call myself an audiophile, and I'm happy with digital sources that use the DACs in my RX-V1800 (same DACs as your 1900). So I don't really know what a better external DAC might do for you.

But since CD is a digital format, there must be a digital to analog conversion in your CD player if you're using the RCA analog outputs.
post #5880 of 6030
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

I wouldn't call myself an audiophile, and I'm happy with digital sources that use the DACs in my RX-V1800 (same DACs as your 1900). So I don't really know what a better external DAC might do for you.
But since CD is a digital format, there must be a digital to analog conversion in your CD player if you're using the RCA analog outputs.

I have a Yamaha CD changer model CDC 697 ( I need to learn more about it) that was on the Yamaha site when I was looking at the 1900 specs and saw it was the same width and the 1900.

No I don't stack on the AVR, just saying it matched the looks of the 1900 was one of Yamaha more expensive CD players in 2010 or so. So I purchased it to go with the 1900

as the changer I can load 5 CD and it will pick my favotire songs on each CD and auto play them in that order for my recording to R2R. I am happy with the 1900 DAC

but wondered if I can improve the sound with a better DAC??? I kind of new to AVR and R2R recording. 30 years ago Pop and I had tube seperates and plugged R2R and TT into the per/amp.

I have not used a TT or R2R in decades and trying to re-learn all I can now.
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