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post #1411 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Test tones from the player are meant for analog connections. It does not convert correctly over digital inputs. There are DD encoded test tones (THX test) on some DVDs which you can use for digital connections.

Ah, that's the missing piece of info! Thanks for the reply!
post #1412 of 7056
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Originally Posted by caesarv View Post

Dude...You are in Hawaii, nothing should be freezing there
Seriously however, if this has happened since day 1, return that puppy. If it has just started, then something is very wrong with it and it needs to be fixed.

I bought mine on Ebay with the 25% off Live.com cashback that was available a few weeks back and the seller says they don't take returns. Going to hope that Samsung is good at warranty exchanges.
post #1413 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Raybies View Post

I bought mine on Ebay with the 25% off Live.com cashback that was available a few weeks back and the seller says they don't take returns. Going to hope that Samsung is good at warranty exchanges.

I hope your luck with Samsung warranty repair is better than mine. My 2550 would freeze after a layer change. I was promised a 5 to 15 day turnaround when I called Samsung. They received my player December 4 and promised to send it back no later than December 9. Today is December 15 and they now say they hope to send it back within 7-14 business days.

I think the Samsung 2550 is a good product, but reliability is a real concern from what I can gather. There are a lot of people complaining about glitches/freezing, etc. I'm definitely not buying another Samsung.
post #1414 of 7056
I have the following gear.

HD TV: Hitachi 50vx915 Director's Series RPTV
Receiver: Marantz SR5600 Non HDMI
BD Player: Sammy BD-P2550

With the following setup: BD-P2550 via HDMI to TV, Optical to receiver, and utilizing 7.1 analog output, although 5.1 setup. P2550 set to 1080i, bitstream (re-encode). I also have the SUB out connected from receiver to L/R input on SUB.

I want to make sure I have the best possible setup and utilizing the equipment to its fullest. Questions are as follows.

1. I have read that in order to take advantage of the HQV chipset on non 1080p models, which mine is, you need to set to 720p. I currently have it set to 1080i. My TV resolution is 1080i native. Is this setup taking advantage of the HQV chip?

2. The Sound. I am utilizing both Optical and Analog output. I have the Optical setup for regular DVD's to take advantage of DD and DTS. The Marantz SR5600 has internal decoders for these formats. I do not plan on purchasing a newer HDMI receiver as I am very pleased with the sound of my receiver. In order to take advantage of the HD lossless formats, I am utilizing the Analog outputs with a 5.1 setup. On the Marantz, I change from Auto surround for older DVD's and Analog 7.1 input for BD's. I realize that sound is subjective to personal taste, however I would like a consensus from the experts here if this is the way they would set up their home theater if they had or have similar gear.

I plan on watching Black Knight tonight with the family and would really appreciate your immediate feedback. Thanks in advance to everyone in this forum.
post #1415 of 7056
Your Hitachi 50vx915 is an LCD RPTV. So there is no way in hell it is 1080i native. In fact, its LCD chips are 720 native. So, sending TV 720p is the best way because Reon processing will be way better than your TV's internal de-interlacing.
post #1416 of 7056
Thanks Foxbat121. I will change the resolution on BD-P2550 to 720p.

Can you offer any comments concerning the audio setup?
post #1417 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Jeff Edwards View Post

I think the Samsung 2550 is a good product, but reliability is a real concern from what I can gather. There are a lot of people complaining about glitches/freezing, etc. I'm definitely not buying another Samsung.

If you're going to buy any Samsung product, above statement is absolutely true. I'd say Samsung has no QA department at all. That's not to say one should avoid Samsung at any cost. In fact, no body else offers any product with the features Samsung offers at the price you can buy for. And they are always the first one to rush out the door with new fantastic products at the cost of quality/reliability.

I knew this because I'm one of those suckers buy Samsung product over and over knowing what I'm getting into. Just wish this time I'd better luck than last one It turns out not. My BD-UP5000 will randomly freeze up during power up. But a power cycle will usually get the player working perfectly until you shut it down. It's been this way since day one and I'm not going to try my luck with Samsung support fearing getting back an even worse player that other 5k owners had (i.e. audio drop, incapable to play all Fox BD titles etc.).
post #1418 of 7056
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Originally Posted by tiger123 View Post

Thanks Foxbat121. I will change the resolution on BD-P2550 to 720p.

Can you offer any comments concerning the audio setup?


I think I have posted too many times on audio subject already. Try not to irk many owners here by repeating my post, why don't you just read my posts in last couple of pages of this thread.
post #1419 of 7056
foxbat, thanks for the audio help.. I'll leave it on 6ch input, although I wish the samsung could do some audio adjustments like individual sound level as my sub isn't very loud thru this input.

On video, should I leave at 720p or 1080i on my 1366x768 panasonic 50" plasma 50phd7uy ? Is the reon chip only working at 720p and 1080p? What happens at 1080i? The menu screens etc on 720p btw look horrible jagged, although the video does look great.
post #1420 of 7056
You probably need a 10db boost on sub channel: that's what most MCH output players do: intentionally -10db on sub channel. If your AVR does not offer such compensation, you will have to do it on the sub itself.

Reon is known for outstanding de-interlacing results for various difficult to handle materials. If you output 1080i, there is no need to de-interlacing. And your Pansonic TV is just so-so on de-interlacing. OTOH, even though your panny is only 768p, it may actually accept 1080p signal via HDMI. Did you try that?
post #1421 of 7056
I have a 50" Panny plasma PX-60 (6th generation). Yours seems to be a 7th generation. Mine accepts 1080P, and the Reon chip is definitely working in that mode. It looks great on upconverted DVD's and on Blu-Ray disks. The player automatically chose this mode as default when it was first set-up. I haven't tried setting it to 720p or any other resolution as I am very happy with the picture as it is.

You can try setting output to 1080p. I think I read in the manual if you do not get a picture after manually setting the resolution, if you wait 20 seconds without hitting any keys on the remote, the resolution will be reset to it's original setting.

I would agree that setting the resolution to 1080i would not be a good idea, as it would seem that it would be better to have the Reon doing the deinterlacing than the display.

Keith
post #1422 of 7056
Hey all-

I was wondering if anybody has experienced the following problem, and more importantly knows a work around...

Using the BD-P2500 to stream episodes of The Office in HD over Netflix, sometimes it will stop playing in the middle of a episode. It will go straight back to the episode detail page. Once that happens, I won't be able to play that episode past the point it stopped playing -- ever again. I can play it fine on my computer, but the samsung player has some kind of residual memory that I can't seem to clear. Attempts to fast forward past the point fail also.

I've watched all of Season 2 of The Office on this player, and it has crashed 3 times. So, it is not everytime, but 3 times more than I would like. Has this happened to anyone else? Does anybody have a solution to this?
post #1423 of 7056
BD-P2500 connected to Integra DTR-9.8 Pre/Pro then into Pioneer PDP-5020FD. Trying to put the unit into 24 FPS mode gives me a black screen (and "no signal" on the Integra display). After about a minute it gives up and reverts to 60 Hz and the display is restored.

I had thought maybe it was the monoprice 401 switch in the loop, but I bypassed that and got the same results. Toshiba HD-XA2 is installed right below it using identical cables and gear and it has no trouble getting a 1080p/24 signal through the chain to the display.

I have an e-mail into Samsung about it but though I'd check here in case anyone is using similar gear and has seen this before. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

-CB
post #1424 of 7056
Does 24fps mode work if you bypass the Pre/Pro and connect the player directly to the TV? Integra is Onkyo's high end brand and I've read that some ppl have to turn off the OSD in their Onkyo AVR in order for it to pass the 24fps mode.
post #1425 of 7056
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Originally Posted by LVKeith View Post

I have a 50" Panny plasma PX-60 (6th generation). Yours seems to be a 7th generation. Mine accepts 1080P, and the Reon chip is definitely working in that mode. It looks great on upconverted DVD's and on Blu-Ray disks. The player automatically chose this mode as default when it was first set-up. I haven't tried setting it to 720p or any other resolution as I am very happy with the picture as it is.

You can try setting output to 1080p. I think I read in the manual if you do not get a picture after manually setting the resolution, if you wait 20 seconds without hitting any keys on the remote, the resolution will be reset to it's original setting.

I would agree that setting the resolution to 1080i would not be a good idea, as it would seem that it would be better to have the Reon doing the deinterlacing than the display.

Keith

1080p doesn't show a pic on my 7th gen panny plasma so i guess it's just 720p for me... thanks!
post #1426 of 7056
Ok well let's try a 3 post in this thread.... Maybe someone will respond to this one!

Besides Pandora issues..... I can't seem to get BD-Live to work at all. I downloaded the firmware and I can watch Netflix HD full bars, but when I try to access BD-Live it says not available. This was on Kung Fu Panda and Wall E.... Maybe it's a Disney thing.
post #1427 of 7056
I don't have my network connected yet but I do remember reading in the manual that you must activate blu-ray live in the setup menu. I think that you can set it active for all blu-ray live, blu-ray live with certificates, or all disabled. You may want to check the setup menu to make sure that it's enabled.

Keith
post #1428 of 7056
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Originally Posted by boylan13 View Post

BD-P2500 connected to Integra DTR-9.8 Pre/Pro then into Pioneer PDP-5020FD. Trying to put the unit into 24 FPS mode gives me a black screen (and "no signal" on the Integra display). After about a minute it gives up and reverts to 60 Hz and the display is restored.

It's an Onkyo/Integra thing. It has terrible pass through with this player that loses the handshake for up to 30 seconds whenever it changes formats.

There are two ways to get around this that worked for me.

1. Plug the 2500 directly into the TV to set the 24 mode. Then plug it back into the AVR.

2. Guess. When it goes black the 2500 is waiting for a confirmation but because the handshake takes so long it disappears before you can see it. Do it again and when the screen goes black press the red button. Or right cursor and okay. I forget which it is but one of them will be hitting the confirmation okay on the screen you can't see.

After that be prepared for some annoying handshaking when going from 24 fps movies to the regular 60 fps disc extras.

This player would be perfect if my Onkyo liked it as much as it does my PS3.
post #1429 of 7056
How do you check to see which firmware upgrade is on your player? What was the first firmware upgrade? And does anyone have the link ( can't find it on the website ) that shows when the newest firmware is coming out? Thanks!
post #1430 of 7056
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Originally Posted by LVKeith View Post

I don't have my network connected yet but I do remember reading in the manual that you must activate blu-ray live in the setup menu. I think that you can set it active for all blu-ray live, blu-ray live with certificates, or all disabled. You may want to check the setup menu to make sure that it's enabled.

Keith

yup I looked into that.... still didn't work
post #1431 of 7056
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Originally Posted by nate358 View Post

yup I looked into that.... still didn't work

Try a non-Disney disc. I've had some studio releases that connect seamlessly and others which timeout.
post #1432 of 7056
Guys,

I recently have a pop up from Time Warner cable saying I have an infected computer. My opinion is that I have been watching netflix movies online with this samsung player. I got the popup this evening and noticed a slow internection connection for a few days now.

I was about to call and complain but I guess they beat me to it.

Is this coincidence? I am in the socal area 626. I heard rumors about them capping end users. I am not please at all. I left their dept my message.


Tony
post #1433 of 7056
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Originally Posted by mcdon283 View Post

How do you check to see which firmware upgrade is on your player?

Setup -> System Setup -> System Information

After having installed 081126_31_BDP2550_XAA (via USB) two weeks ago, mine now says it has 081126.31_052808-1_1254.08_XAA

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What was the first firmware upgrade?

081017_02_BDP2550_XAA (version 2.0, released 2008/10/23). The initial firmware on my machine (version 1.0?), prior to any updates, was 080704.01_052808-1_1254.08_XAA

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And does anyone have the link ( can't find it on the website ) that shows when the newest firmware is coming out?

It was in this thread a few pages back:

http://pages.samsung.com/us/bluraysupport/support.html
post #1434 of 7056
Is there anything new on the possibility to make this one region free? (for SD DVDs)

When I got the BD-P2500, I gave my beloved Toshiba hd-XE1 to my brother who needed a good upscaler, thinking that a region hack for the samsung would probably be available soon.

But there doesn't seem to be any positive sign regarding this so far, and now I can't play half my DVD collection and would feel really ****** to ask for my XE1 back.
The only solution to watch them seems to be to burn them as region free discs onto blank DVD's but guess what, the samsung also hates dual layer DVD-R's, so I would also have to compress the films to DVD5, which kind of defeats the point of having a great upscaler.

Please, please, I can bear to wait for months if someone at least tells me it will be possible to unlock it one day.
post #1435 of 7056
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Originally Posted by ral628 View Post


Using the BD-P2500 to stream episodes of The Office in HD over Netflix, sometimes it will stop playing in the middle of a episode. It will go straight back to the episode detail page. Once that happens, I won't be able to play that episode past the point it stopped playing -- ever again. I can play it fine on my computer, but the samsung player has some kind of residual memory that I can't seem to clear. Attempts to fast forward past the point fail also.

Had the same problem last night watching Before The Devil Knows Your Dead. Keeps going back to the option screen and won't let me past the stuck point in the movie. I spoke with Netflix this morning....they said it was a known problem that they were working on it. Couldn't give an ETA or really any other details of what the exact issues was.
post #1436 of 7056
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Originally Posted by keerplooey View Post

Is there anything new on the possibility to make this one region free? (for SD DVDs)

When I got the BD-P2500, I gave my beloved Toshiba hd-XE1 to my brother who needed a good upscaler, thinking that a region hack for the samsung would probably be available soon.

But there doesn't seem to be any positive sign regarding this so far, and now I can't play half my DVD collection and would feel really ****** to ask for my XE1 back.
The only solution to watch them seems to be to burn them as region free discs onto blank DVD's but guess what, the samsung also hates dual layer DVD-R's, so I would also have to compress the films to DVD5, which kind of defeats the point of having a great upscaler.

Please, please, I can bear to wait for months if someone at least tells me it will be possible to unlock it one day.

I also have a number of Foreign DVD's but knew there would likely not be a region free hack for the machine (something to do with the blu-ray part because even the new Oppo blu-ray will not be region hackable) so I picked up a Philips DVP5990/37 at Wal-mart for around $59 and it works great. Its actually the 3rd Philips DVD player I've purchased because they do a very good job at playing other region DVD's and they handle PAL perfectly.
post #1437 of 7056
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Originally Posted by SteveCaron View Post

I also have a number of Foreign DVD's but knew there would likely not be a region free hack for the machine (something to do with the blu-ray part because even the new Oppo blu-ray will not be region hackable) so I picked up a Philips DVP5990/37 at Wal-mart for around $59 and it works great. Its actually the 3rd Philips DVD player I've purchased because they do a very good job at playing other region DVD's and they handle PAL perfectly.

I have to agree with the above. I'm headed to Costco to get the new Philips for my Kids, $40.

http://www.**************/forums/hot-...yword1=philips
post #1438 of 7056
When my 2550 starts up i see the samsung logo for about 3 seconds then it disappears and the tv receivers no signal until the player has finished starting up. From what i have read so far this is due to the hdmi handshake that is going on. I have the 2550 running through my amp to my tv but i get the same result when the player is plugged straight into the tv. Does everyone experience this with their player? It isn't critical just a little annoying (i don't like a blank tv) and if everyone is having this happen do you think it could be fixed with a firmware update?
Also, when i change the resolution from 1080i to 720p the logo gets all jaggy. Is this because 1080i uses a high resolution logo image and 720p uses the one we see when a DVD is in the player?

Setup:
Samsung 3292d
Onkyo 605
Samsung 2550
post #1439 of 7056
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Originally Posted by wallace_1000 View Post

When my 2550 starts up i see the samsung logo for about 3 seconds then it disappears and the tv receivers no signal until the player has finished starting up. From what i have read so far this is due to the hdmi handshake that is going on. I have the 2550 running through my amp to my tv but i get the same result when the player is plugged straight into the tv. Does everyone experience this with their player? It isn't critical just a little annoying (i don't like a blank tv) and if everyone is having this happen do you think it could be fixed with a firmware update?
Also, when i change the resolution from 1080i to 720p the logo gets all jaggy. Is this because 1080i uses a high resolution logo image and 720p uses the one we see when a DVD is in the player?

Setup:
Samsung 3292d
Onkyo 605
Samsung 2550


What you've described when powering up the unit is normal. If you'll notice when the splash first comes up it doesn't have the Netflix and or Pandora windows until it goes through its additional step to retrieve those items and then complete the hand shake. My Samsung was faster powering up prior to the Netflix and Pandora additions but I really don't care because I love those features.

Though I'm running my Samsung at 1080P the only time I see jaggies on the Samsung logo is after I have played a Standard DVD but if I watch a Blu-ray the logo remains crisp. This has "zero" affect on the playback of DVD's.
post #1440 of 7056
Thanks for the info SteveCaron, i am glad to hear that the loss of signal during start-up is normal. I just found it strange that 720p has jaggies while 1080i does not. My set is 1366 x 768, so i am thinking that 720p is probably the best setting to go with? Has anyone else found that 1080i produces a better picture with this player or does it all come down to the tv?
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