Samsung BD-2550/BD-P2500 Master Thread - Page 7

Originally Posted by mellowman

^^That just means the 2500 is BD-Live "ready" out of the box. If you do a search for the 2500, every place sites a firmware upgrade to 2.0 profile.

Welcome to the world of BS marketing.

Again, there doesn't seem to be any difference between the 2500 and 2550. Same specs, same expected prices.

Originally Posted by milou6

What are you watching it on?

Originally Posted by wnorris

No, the 2500 will be 2.0 out of the box, no firmware upgrade needed. It releases in October. The firmware upgrade for the 1500/2550 to go to 2.0 will be released around the same time. The 2500 will already ship with the latest firmware and have 2.0 enabled out of the box.

Originally Posted by kirbalo

Well...I can quote press articles also...here...and it says the 2500 will need a firmware update to reach Profile 2.0

So...I guess we'll see...but knowing Samsung...I'd bet on a firmware update.

Originally Posted by wnorris

The 2500 and the 2550 are just improved versions of the 1500. They have all the same flaws and shortcomings of the 1500. All Samsung did was slap a HQV chip into the 1500 design, and add additional cooling to handle the added heat load. They even have the same cheap, noisy drive. It was just a way for Samsung to add a $20 part to an existing design and mark the retail up $100.

Originally Posted by mellowman

^^That just means the 2500 is BD-Live "ready" out of the box. If you do a search for the 2500, every place sites a firmware upgrade to 2.0 profile.

Welcome to the world of BS marketing.

Again, there doesn't seem to be any difference between the 2500 and 2550. Same specs, same manual, same expected prices.

Originally Posted by Kage

Do you guys think that the BD-P2550 is Samsung's best blu-ray player?

Originally Posted by EWL5

The Panasonic BD50 advertises playing DVD's at 24 fps as well...

Originally Posted by wnorris

No, the 2500 will be 2.0 out of the box, no firmware upgrade needed. It releases in October. The firmware upgrade for the 1500/2550 to go to 2.0 will be released around the same time. The 2500 will already ship with the latest firmware and have 2.0 enabled out of the box.

Originally Posted by AndyGood

The 1500 is a better value, it will have the same failings as the 2550 for 20% less. As far as the reon chip is concerned, I have had several DVD players with the reon chip and frankly, unless you are looking at testing patterns, you can get a wonderfully sharp and colorful picture from DVD players utilizing other chips.

One of the benefits of not putting too much emphasis in a "chip" is that often the joy of using a DVD player is having one that has quick response, great menus, excellent audio, reliability, a good remote, etc. If you choose a DVD player that excells in those areas, then the tiny differences experienced by a player that is able to pass a few more hurdles in split second instance will be far overshadowed by a more satisfying user experience.

Originally Posted by mellowman

Look, there is nothing in the press release that you quoted that says any different than it being BD-Live "ready" out of the box. I think you read too much into "out of the box". It doesn't literally say what you say it says.

But there is progress, before you were saying the 2500 was different hardware than the 2550 and now it's the same just with the latest firmware already installed.

Hopefully, you will see what I was saying is true no matter what firmware is installed.

Also, given that Oct is about a month away for general availability of the 2500. For Samsung to manufacture and distribute 2500 inventory in time, they must already have the profile 2.0 firmware. So why haven't we seen it for the 2550 or 1500? Especially, as in your opinion, if they are supposedly all beta testers anyway.

Samsung's BD-P2500 meets all of the current BD Profile requirements right out of the box, allowing consumers to instantly enjoy the latest interactive features available, including BD Live™ (Profile 2.0) and Bonus View (Profile 1.1), creating new ways to experience favorite movies.

Originally Posted by wnorris

Invest in a pair of glasses...

From Samsung's release:



Note how it says that right out of the box, consumers can instantly enjoy the latest features, including BD Live (Profile 2.0).

Just suck it up, you're wrong...

Originally Posted by WRX_Rocky

I totally agree (in BOLD). And though I had high expectations for the 2550 and the Reon chip, and on paper it sounded great, in real life there was not much of a difference at all between the 2550 and the Sony S350. And if the 2500 is not going to be any bit different, then I will just wait for the S550 to come out, or the Panasonic BD35/BD55 and see if their new ones are more improved than the current models. I honestly gave Samsung a chance here (there other products are truly great!!!), but for BD I found them lacking

Originally Posted by mellowman


Again, if the availability date is true then the firmware must already exist. Given the similarities between the 2500, 2550 and 1500, we should see the profile 2.0 support updates for the 1500 and 2550 now.

Originally Posted by Kage

I also had high expectations with the P2550, but this blu-ray player is not the right one for me. A few days ago I bought the Sony BDP-BX1 at Costco and it seems to be the right one for me for now. I was thinking of getting the Pioneer BDP-51FD but decided that its too much money for me to spend. Can't wait till the new Pannys and the S550. Currently, I'm selling the P2550 with the 4 year warranty instead of returning it to the store, because I returned too many items to the same store and they got a return tracking system in their network. The store manager got paged to talk to me about my excessive returns.

Originally Posted by wnorris

Well, absolutely zero jaggies here with 1080p/60 on a XA2. Never heard that complaint before. Maybe you have a bad player...

Originally Posted by Kage

I also had high expectations with the P2550, but this blu-ray player is not the right one for me. A few days ago I bought the Sony BDP-BX1 at Costco and it seems to be the right one for me for now. I was thinking of getting the Pioneer BDP-51FD but decided that its too much money for me to spend. Can't wait till the new Pannys and the S550. Currently, I'm selling the P2550 with the 4 year warranty instead of returning it to the store, because I returned too many items to the same store and they got a return tracking system in their network. The store manager got paged to talk to me about my excessive returns.

Originally Posted by slimm

If that's the same store where you returned the S350's that you had problems with, I don't blame them.. BTW, you do know that the BX1 is really a S350?

Originally Posted by kirbalo

I read your initial review on HD Forums here...what changed your mind so drastically? You gave it such a rave review previously...

Originally Posted by Kage

It was my early impressions on it, but a week later I felt that it is not the right blu-ray player for me.

Originally Posted by slimm

If you don't mind, what specifically did you find wrong with the player for you?

Originally Posted by Kage

Specifically the P2550 functions great and I really don't have any issues with it.

Originally Posted by Kage

Specifically the P2550 functions great and I really don't have any issues with it.

Originally Posted by slimm

I'm confused. Why don't you still have it?

Originally Posted by Kage

Specifically the P2550 functions great and I really don't have any issues with it.

Originally Posted by kirbalo

I see you're selling ithere.

I'd understand if your system was SONY or something...

Did it "yell" at you and "belittle" you? Was it an "unfriendly" Blu-Ray player?

You gave such a glaring review...just trying to make sense of all your posts.

Originally Posted by Kage

Yep thats mine. The reason why I gave it a good review because it was my early impressions, but after a week of usage it is not the right one for me. Its still a good blu-ray/dvd player.

Originally Posted by Kage

2. The P2550 has an annoying charm when its done powering up and when I power down the P2550.

Originally Posted by crumbs

You can turn it off in the setup menu.

Originally Posted by WRX_Rocky

Actually for me, I thought that "BONG" sound was kind of cool. But cool stuff only don't make a player great.

To my eyes, and I spent a few hours going over the same scenes again and again - I could find no real difference between the PQ of regular DVD's on both the 2550 or the S350. And as both play BD's, and both bistream (I have the Onkyo 805 that decodes), the PQ of regular DVD's was what I was now basing my choice on. And the 2550 was not THAT much better to justify the higher cost.

Also, Kage mentions, like I did earlier, that the info screen on the 2550 paled compared to the S350, which was actually quite similar to the same on the PS3 I have. Though it might not seem like much of a big deal, it is nice to have that information when you may be testing your system for all sorts of settings and such.

And, seeing as the S350 will be lowered in price by $100 around late September (and still within my price match time limit with BB), as well as the S550 will now be lower - then again the 2550 pales in comparison.

But these are my thoughts and gut feelings, mileage may vary for others, and with different HT components. So my needs are never the same as anyone else's.