Samsung BD-2550/BD-P2500 Master Thread - Page 65

Originally Posted by Bladerunner1959

That is all a fair question, I did intend to tie it together since the 1200 is an hqv machine as well and similar to the 2500. I love the Samsung video quality on bluray and on standard dvd as well. After 1 challenging year with the 1200 , I am too gun-shy about the (IMHO) the lack of speed with FW upgrades, I dont wanna lose the benefits of the hqv with std dvd via a FW upgrades as that did happen on the 1200. Std dvd was noticeably better when I 1st got the unit BUT...after the 2nd FW upgrade was done it hit me that I was losing something. Trust me, I am(was) temped to float one of these on plastic for more comparison as well.

For the 2500, I have seen more posts about blu and std disks not playing back properly compared to the other machines. I have not had 1 pause freeze or no-play with these 2 machines yet and I have thrown everything at them except Bond on blu that I need to go rent today.

Originally Posted by wobbegong

I said:



It occurs to me that the activation code might be a mechanism to restrict Netflix streaming to one player per Netflix account. Can any of you who have more than one 2550 state whether you can stream to multiple players from the same account? (Just curious.)

Originally Posted by n517rv

FWIW I purchased a 2550 at BB less than a week ago. I have yet to get Netflix to work at all after about 2-3 firmware upgrades since I purchased the unit. The error I get tells me that Netflix "cannot connect to your home network". That's a bunch of bull because all other network connectivity works fine. I've done firmware updates via the network as well as Pandora and both work great.

HappyFunBoater's suggestion of turning off DHCP and manually setting DNS primary and secondary did NOT work for me.

IMO, this is all a bit ridiculous... when are Samsung and Netflix going to get this figured out? I most certainly don't have any connectivity issues on my home network. The issue appears to be a problem with the Netflix portion of the firmware update, although it may be an issue with the Samsung/Netflix server as already suggested previously in the forum.

Come on Samsung/Netflix... get this figured out!!! Has anyone there heard of the Alpha/Beta testing process for quality control? Or, maybe we're all Alpha testers and we just don't know it.

On the brighter side Pandora is really neat and has worked flawlessly. I didn't even know what Pandora was until I started researching which Blu-Ray player buy and came across the 2550 offered by Best Buy. If you're a music fan definitely check out Pandora.

I'm certainly glad I bought the 2550, but would REALLY be happy with it if Netflix would work on it.

One more note, last night (1/1/2009) I turned my unit on and it wanted to update to the latest firmware. I let it update and it installed 2.3 (referenced as 081230.01_091108BL_1254.08_XAA). Not sure why, but everytime I've done firmware update over the network when I reboots it says a new firmware update is available and wants to redo the whole download and update process. This is really annoying as it takes twice as long. Today I registered my product and logged into the Samsung website. I copied the USB version of 2.3 and let the 2550 update off of the USB drive. I like this a lot better than the network updates. Seems to be faster and it didn't try to install twice like the network update. I'll probably stick to USB updates in the future for this very reason.

Originally Posted by kirbalo

You know this is illegal, against FCC rules, and federal regulations...right? They cannot tell you that you cannot have a dish...

Look it up. Federal Law "trumps" all local administrative rules.

Originally Posted by WRX_Rocky

Timmarfil, I hate to say this, but it IS now time (for you and others) to upgrade your receiver.............Remember, your AVR is NOT some old antique Ferrari that is worth spending money on to keep running. And with the cost of very decent AVR's (see below) being not that expensive, there is no excuse to not upgrade now.

Originally Posted by pablo234

Unfortunately, that is the decision I reluctantly have come to also. This does miss the point though that the 2550 was supposed to 1 of only 2 or 3 BD players available that could decode the lossless sound tracks and pass them through the analog outputs. It's disappointing to spend time researching brands and models, make what you think is a sound $500 buying decision and then find out you were wrong. My 4 year old H/K may not be a Farrari but it is a very capable analog amplifer that would have been up to the task if the 2550 delivered on it's stated feature set.
When you look at the marketing side of this, some manufacturers are putting analog outputs on their higher end players because they know there is a segment of the market that desires that feature and they are willing to pay a price for it. Not implementing that feature properly is inexcuseble. That said, once I lick my wounds and buy an HDMI receiver, I will forget all about this and love the picture on my 2550 but will probably never buy Samsung again.

Originally Posted by Meathammer

I believe that is the firmware version that was on my Sammy until I flashed it with the 2.1 version last night.

Now to test it this weekend and see if I'm still having freezing issues. If so, back it goes.

Originally Posted by pablo234

My 4 year old H/K may not be a Farrari but it is a very capable analog amplifer that would have been up to the task if the 2550 delivered on it's stated feature set.

Originally Posted by GimpyDVX

I'm somewhat amused (again!). As of right now (1/3/2008 @ 8pm Centrel) Samsung has the new 2.3 FW available for download in the BD-P2500 section. Head into the download center for the 2550, and no downloads are available ............... yet mine is pulling the FW over the wire right now

I tried the 2500 for giggles, and it of course immediatly failed. Sure wish I'd kept the previous revision RUF file around so I could compare the two.

I also with Samsung would put a friggen readme/change log on these, unless I'm missing that? It's always a mystery what they've added / fixed to me.

Originally Posted by EDH63

As I've always said, it's best to burn these updates to disk or load them to a zip drive so you can have them later. Since Samsung is no longer referencing older updates on their site, I would recommend you call them and have them mail you the 2.1 version. Although, I heard recently Samsung will not send you a non-current FW disk. I'd call anyway and see for yourself.

I've got the Onkyo 705 and the normal listening volume level when I have movie nights is 70 and it sounds fantastic. I want it to be like I'm at the theater. I watched 'Traitor" last night in TRU-HD and it rocked the house. TIHII was another one, in DTS-HD MSTR, that sounded fantastic. The bass was phenominal and I'm only using a 10" sub. I have no distortion and the AVR never shuts down. I do have a small fan set atop my AVR that pulls excess heat out of the box, so that helps. I ran Audessy and calibrated my speakers for my room and then tweaked it from there and that made a huge improvement. All of that to say that you should be able to crank it and not have your system shut down.

I can't go into detail about your receiver but I would recommend that you get into the "Audio Area" http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=90, find the 606 thread and talk about this there. You may very well have some settings issues going on or something else that another member can help you with.

Originally Posted by deromax

A lot of BD have Dolby TrueHD or LPCM, which the 2550 will do. For the few remaining discs that have DTS-HD MA, you could always listen to the regular DTS track? It's not like DTS is total garbage!

Originally Posted by TNVOL

Not sure where exactly the problem arises. I have a DISH DVR and Samsung 2500 Blu Ray player hooked up to the Pioneer THX 01 AVR, both by HDMI cables.

If I am watching a movie on the Samsung 2500 and PAUSE the movie to go over and watch TV then the video and audio work fine in watching TV from the DISH DVR. But then if I switch back to the Samsung 2500 Blu Ray player to resume watching the DVD, I get Video but no Audio at all. Funny thing I found out by trial and error is that if I push PLAY on the Samsung (that was on pause) right before I switch the Pioneer 01 AVR back to the Samsung 2500 then all works fine on the audio.

Bottom line is that if I switch the Pioneer 01 AVR over to the Samsung 2500 that was on Pause, then I have no audio working once I push Play again on the Samsung. So which is the culprit? Since the Audio works on the DISH DVR when switched over then I would think it is a Samsung problem but not sure.

Which Elite do you have now? I recently sold my old 56TXi. That was, and still is considered one hell of a receiver, but I wanted HDMI. So I had replaced that with the Onkyo 805 because at the time (and for some time after too) it was the only AVR with HDMI and internal decoding on the market. But it could NEVER compare to the Elite 56TXi I had prior. Well, I went out and bought the new Pioneer Elite 03 and really liked it! And the price was sweet too. It sounded so darn aweseome compared to the Onkyo, so much so, that when testing movies out, I would end up watching them as if I had seen them for the first time = the sound was that GREAT! BUT . . . . the new Elite SC-05 had also caught my eye, and I KNEW that if I did not exchange the 03 for it, I would always have it in the back of my mind, so I did exchange the 03 for the 05 and am soooooooo happy I did. But depending on your needs and expenses, any of the new Pioneer Elite AVR's would be perfect for you, as you are already well aquainted with the awesome rich sound they offer. And compared to the Denon's, you get more bells & whistles, and more HDMI ports, at a lower cost with the Pioneer. So why wait

Originally Posted by Cyberbod

Sounds like an HDMI handshake issue. You figured out the solution on your own. Granted it is not elegant, but it works.

Originally Posted by sanjoseskater

OK, So I have a home theater and everything is hooked up to my Onkyo TX-SR806 receiver. All my other equipment works fine with the receiver via HDMI hookup.

So here's what's happening with the Samsung BD-P2500 and my Onkyo TX-SR806:

When I turn on the bluray the receiver is still capable of being operated by the remote, but as soon as the bluray disc loads and displays the disc menu, the receiver ceases to accept any remote control commands. I try to change the volume and the receiver does nothing. I try to change the receiver input with the remote and nothing happens. The only way to control the receiver is manually by pressing buttons on the front panel or turn the volume knob. As soon as I turn the bluray player OFF, the receiver then accepts remote commands as normal.

I have tried to change some settings on the Samsung to see if they were the cause and I have had no luck.

Does anyone know why this is happening? Is this just a setting I have incorrect? Is this a function of the particular Disc I am playing?

I updated the Samsung firmware today which is the first day I have had the unit. I did not try the bluray before I updated the firmware so I do not know if this is a result of the new firmware.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by BIslander

7.1 aside, I'm guessing most people couldn't tell the difference between DTS core at 1.5 mbps on BD and lossless dts-MA.

Originally Posted by JFISHER

Which remote are you referring too? Are you using the receiver remote, the 2550 remote or a universal remote when you get this problem?

Originally Posted by nate358

I have the same feelings about the shortcomings of the 2550. While I think Netflix is great... I use Blockbuster and Pandora is cool, but has something more to be desired from. Now, that DTS-HD MA is not supported, I wouldn't hesitate to take my 2550 back to BB and get the Panasonic 550 if I could "find it" and for $350. With the 550 I'd get DTS-HD MA, a SD Card reader for camera pics, and a lot more supported disk types which might include playing the Bluray Pixar's Short Films Collection, which only my machine won't play.

Originally Posted by Chase

Anyway, yesterday I went to watch my lovely new Matrix Blu-ray collection, and the video is dead. Audio works, but no video. I tried switching the HDMI from the TV directly to the Sammy just to see if it was a cable or Denon issue. Nope. I unplugged, replugged, same problem. Denon and Motorola still working perfectly.

Originally Posted by Chase

This Sammy was one that came with the firmware CD, so manufactured earlier than some out there now. I have heard tell that I should just return the thing for one manufactured in November and all should be well. What do you all think?

Originally Posted by Chase

This Sammy was one that came with the firmware CD, so manufactured earlier than some out there now. I have heard tell that I should just return the thing for one manufactured in November and all should be well. What do you all think?

Originally Posted by Chase

UGH!!!

I bought the 2550 a few days ago along with a Denon AVR-789. I did the latest firmware update via burned CD, all went well. Watched a few movies on Friday, no real issues except while watching Wanted. Audio would drop at a certain point and after trial and error, found that turning the Denon off/on would correct it. BTW, all HDMI all the way through to Panny 42-PH10UK. No other cables used. Motorola Comcast box has been working flawlessly.

Anyway, yesterday I went to watch my lovely new Matrix Blu-ray collection, and the video is dead. Audio works, but no video. I tried switching the HDMI from the TV directly to the Sammy just to see if it was a cable or Denon issue. Nope. I unplugged, replugged, same problem. Denon and Motorola still working perfectly.

This Sammy was one that came with the firmware CD, so manufactured earlier than some out there now. I have heard tell that I should just return the thing for one manufactured in November and all should be well. What do you all think?

Additional Info:

The video problem is not just with Matrix, but everything, it just happened to begin when I inserted that disc yesterday. So no splash screen, nothing, no other DVDs have video. But sound is still there.

Originally Posted by EDH63

EDIT: I have to ask this. Did you, after the update, go back into the BDP menu and reset the audio stream to Bitstream (Audiophile)? The player resets to factory settings when you update everytime.