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post #2941 of 7056
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Originally Posted by boosteddub69 View Post

Hi guys -

I've read the first 50 pages of this thread and probably the last 10 or so. I have an issue that no one else has mentioned (unless it's in those 25 or so pages I didn't look at):

I have the 2500 hooked up to a Samsung HL61A750 via HDMI for video and an Onkyo HT-R540 via 7.1 analog. Picture quality is beautiful and audio is good except one thing. The TV also spits out audio. Is there any way to disable audio via HDMI? I don't want the TV playing audio from the player, and really don't want to have to turn the volume all the way down on the TV before I watch a movie. Pushing the mute button leaves a nice big icon on the screen to let you know that you've muted the set.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

That's a good question. I've just been turning the TV down, but haven't really looked into it either.
post #2942 of 7056
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Originally Posted by boosteddub69 View Post

Is there any way to disable audio via HDMI? I don't want the TV playing audio from the player, and really don't want to have to turn the volume all the way down on the TV before I watch a movie.

That's not a player issue, turn off your TV speakers. Surely there's a menu option for that.
post #2943 of 7056
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Originally Posted by boosteddub69 View Post

Hi guys -

I've read the first 50 pages of this thread and probably the last 10 or so. I have an issue that no one else has mentioned (unless it's in those 25 or so pages I didn't look at):

I have the 2500 hooked up to a Samsung HL61A750 via HDMI for video and an Onkyo HT-R540 via 7.1 analog. Picture quality is beautiful and audio is good except one thing. The TV also spits out audio. Is there any way to disable audio via HDMI? I don't want the TV playing audio from the player, and really don't want to have to turn the volume all the way down on the TV before I watch a movie. Pushing the mute button leaves a nice big icon on the screen to let you know that you've muted the set.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Try set your digital audio to Bitstream (re-encode). Since your TV won't be able to decode DTS, it will not have any sound. The analog output should not be affect by this setting in theory. Worth a try.
post #2944 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Try set your digital audio to Bitstream (re-encode). Since your TV won't be able to decode DTS, it will not have any sound. The analog output should not be affect by this setting in theory. Worth a try.

That's some crafty thinkin' right there..
post #2945 of 7056
Wow, you guys are quick.

Foxbat121 - I tried that...the TV apparently can decode DTS or DD. It still plays audio.

VisonOn - I know it's not a player issue per se', I just thought maybe I was overlooking something on the configuration side. I can turn the speakers off, the only issue is that I use the speakers for normal TV. My kids watch the set a lot and I really don't want to hear Phineas and Ferb through the sound system.

It looks like I may be stuck turning down the volume until I upgrade the receiver.

Thanks for the quick responses.
post #2946 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Aesculapius View Post

The cable is long (35 feet) but 1.3 rated. Is there another cable solution that would work? What would be a more acceptable cable length?

How about the HDMI to cat5 converters? Would those help at all?

As previously stated, your HDMI cable is not "up to the task", and since it sounds like it's in the wall, you're probably SOL unless you pull another. Just because a cable is "1.3 rated" doesn't mean it's been tested to full HD bandwidths at multiple lengths. Audioholics once did an HDMI cable shootout article that I based my purchase of a 25ft. Blue Jeans cable on: it performed better than Monster cables that were 2-3 times the price. I wouldn't waste my time with "work-arounds" (Cat5 converters, etc.): long HDMI cable runs require high-quality (not necessarily high-price) cables.
post #2947 of 7056
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Originally Posted by boosteddub69 View Post

VisonOn - I know it's not a player issue per se', I just thought maybe I was overlooking something on the configuration side. I can turn the speakers off, the only issue is that I use the speakers for normal TV. My kids watch the set a lot and I really don't want to hear Phineas and Ferb through the sound system.

Turning of the TV speaker option is there specifically for when you are using a receiver. When you aren't, just switch it back on. That's when a macro comes in useful.

My Sony will automatically kill the TV speaker with one button. If a HDMI-CEC equipped TV and AVR is working correctly, switching to external audio should be a one button operation. If it has a Theater or Movie Mode button the TV will detect the AVR and kill the speaker automatically.
post #2948 of 7056
A macro will have to be the way to go for me. The closest I have to a speaker kill is the mute button, and that's not an option due to the lovely icon that floats on the screen when the TV speaker is muted.

Thanks again for the input.
post #2949 of 7056
Hey guys...

Could someone list or give a basic synopsis of the faults, lack of features or issues with these Samsung players??? Post them here or PM me.. For a master thread of ALL player issues...

Thanks!!
post #2950 of 7056
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Originally Posted by boosteddub69 View Post

Foxbat121 - I tried that...the TV apparently can decode DTS or DD. It still plays audio.

Well, there goes my crafty thinking

I don't think your TV can decode DTS or DD. It is the player that does the *right* thing by pass PCM 2.0 via HDMI to your TV regardless your digital output setting because PCM 2.0 is the only thing supported by your TV and informed to your player via HDMI handshake.
post #2951 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Well, there goes my crafty thinking

I don't think your TV can decode DTS or DD. It is the player that does the *right* thing by pass PCM 2.0 via HDMI to your TV regardless your digital output setting because PCM 2.0 is the only thing supported by your TV and informed to your player via HDMI handshake.

I stand corrected sir, I did like the crafty thinking (since I thought of it too).

I really do appreciate the suggestion.
post #2952 of 7056
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Originally Posted by boosteddub69 View Post

A macro will have to be the way to go for me. The closest I have to a speaker kill is the mute button

According to the 750 manual at Samsung you do have a speaker kill setting. It's unusual in models released in the past few years at that screen size not to have that option.

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/d...0A1FXZA&mode=C
post #2953 of 7056
I should clarify.

I don't have a one button kill for the TV speaker. I have to go through the menu structure to turn it off. Which is what I will have to use a macro for or just turn the volume down on the TV before watching a disc.
post #2954 of 7056
I will be checking the cable tonight.
As for other possibilities....in an effort to keep things nice I used a couple monoprices wall HDMI jacks. So in the end I have PJ-short cable-jack-long cable-jack-short cable-receiver. How much could this be adding to the problem?
post #2955 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

I'd say < 15ft. Anything over 25ft needs to have all the stars lined up when you install it



I don't have personal experience with them but read the manufaturer's information would be a good start. IMO, they should be better for your situation.

I used a 25ft monoprice cable without problems -- not that they can't/don't exist.

There is a rating system for HDMI cables at - link.

Mike

post #2956 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Aesculapius View Post

I will be checking the cable tonight.
As for other possibilities....in an effort to keep things nice I used a couple monoprices wall HDMI jacks. So in the end I have PJ-short cable-jack-long cable-jack-short cable-receiver. How much could this be adding to the problem?

Each jack introduce additional signal loss and increase possibility of failed handshake.

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Originally Posted by Mike_WI View Post

I used a 25ft monoprice cable without problems -- not that they can't/don't exist.

There is a rating system for HDMI cables at - link.

Mike

I know 25-ft cables are all over the place. However OP have a 35-ft, not 25, cable.

If I were lay a 25-ft or longer cable, I'd pay a lot attention to cable quality and various test results. It is important when you dealing with long cables. For short (6-ft) cables, it is much less problematic.

I don't know anything about DPL rating. However, HDMI oranization itself is promoting HDMI cable certification. I'll buy certified cable if possible. Monoprice does have some certified cables and they usually sell out quickly.
post #2957 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Each jack introduce additional signal loss and increase possibility of failed handshake.



I know 25-ft cables are all over the place. However OP have a 35-ft, not 25, cable.

If I were lay a 25-ft or longer cable, I'd pay a lot attention to cable quality and various test results. It is important when you dealing with long cables. For short (6-ft) cables, it is much less problematic.

I don't know anything about DPL rating. However, HDMI oranization itself is promoting HDMI cable certification. I'll buy certified cable if possible. Monoprice does have some certified cables and they usually sell out quickly.

I agree with you.

Mike
post #2958 of 7056
Good news!
It appears that it wasn't the cable, just too many connections. I removed the plate connection behind the receiver and hooked the long cable up to it directly and it worked like a charm.
Thanks for the advice!
post #2959 of 7056
Just curious...does Samsung post a calendar on when the next firmware update (2.5 or higher) is scheduled to be released?
post #2960 of 7056
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Originally Posted by mikeynavy1 View Post

Just curious...does Samsung post a calendar on when the next firmware update (2.5 or higher) is scheduled to be released?

If they are going to it will be here:

http://pages.samsung.com/us/bluraysupport/support.html
post #2961 of 7056
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Originally Posted by texal316 View Post

I am connected with all HDMI thru the AVR. The 24fps doesn't work for me. If I switch to HDMI direct to the tv (Samsung HLS6187W) and do analog audio to the AVR, would that allow 24fps? Can I use optical audio and still get all HD audio?

Your tv doesn't fully support 24hz. I have the same tv, you just need to run it 60hz. Also, optical audio doesn't support HD audio. You have to use HDMI or the 7.1 analog outs to enjoy True HD, DTS-HD MA, etc.
post #2962 of 7056
Does the BD player allow you to disable the HDMI audio output - to the TV? Sometimes it is a hassle to turn off the volume on the TV went you are listening through the receiver.
post #2963 of 7056
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Originally Posted by AMarinho View Post

Does anyone know if it is possible to play DVD/BD with PAL (25/50 hz) content?

PAL DVDs do not work with the US model BD-P2500.
post #2964 of 7056
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Originally Posted by JCLJorgenson View Post

Does the BD player allow you to disable the HDMI audio output - to the TV? Sometimes it is a hassle to turn off the volume on the TV went you are listening through the receiver.

No sir, it doesn't. I asked (more or less) that same question a few posts above. If you're lucky like VisionOn you may have a one button kill for the TV speakers, or perhaps your mute function on your TV doesn't have a distracting on screen icon.

Otherwise just keep turning it down.
post #2965 of 7056
Or you can do as I did: use AVR 100% of the time and turn TV volume to off.
post #2966 of 7056
I guess it depends on what AVR you have but my Denon 889 lets me route the audio to either the AVR itself or the TV depending on its source.
post #2967 of 7056
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Hey guys...

Could someone list or give a basic synopsis of the faults, lack of features or issues with these Samsung players??? Post them here or PM me.. For a master thread of ALL player issues...

Thanks!!

Anyone??
post #2968 of 7056
hi all... i'm one of the folks who has a new BD-P2550 running 2.4 and connected to a Sony 52XBR6 with 24p turned on who gets a scrambled picture when i try to watch something streamed by Netflix...

this morning i spoke with Samsung customer service and after taking my details "Neil" went off for a few moments and then came back to say that the scrambled picture was "normal behavior" and that some of Netflix movies were capable of being viewed as 24p and some weren't, and those that weren't would cause the scrambling problem. i explained that since the player had to be 'reset' after such scrambling, since it not only scrambled the movie but also the BD-P2550's user interface, it could hardly be considered 'normal'.

Neil then suggested that i contact Netflix and tell them they should mark which movies can be seen in 24p and which can't.

(oy!)

wondering if anyone else has gotten this current bit of 'wisdom', or tried to contact Netflix?

many thanks!
robin
post #2969 of 7056
Has anyone had a problem with a rolling horizontal lines while watching on the Samsung 2550 player. They are mostly visible in dark scenes. They show up either with a disk or with Netflix streaming video. I do not have the problem if I play a video with my Toshiba HD player. Suggestions?
post #2970 of 7056
Rolling horizontal line usually means you have ground loop problem on your electric wiring.
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