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post #301 of 7056
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Originally Posted by prostar5 View Post

Just picked up BD-2550 at BB. So far so good. Excellent HD PQ and DVD upscaling. However two things bug me. Does anyone know how to disable the Bonus View icon from popping on screen during the movie? What is the deal that some Blu-ray titles will resume play where stopped and others must start over at beginning?

The bonus view that pops up on your screen can be deactivated in the setup, I forgot under which part, but there is a setting called SCREEN MESSAGES - just disable it. But from what I remember from the first time I tried this player, it also removed the time bar that appears when you pause/play movies. And that is one item that I SADLY miss having a button for, as sometimes I NEED to know how much play time is left in a movie, and how much time into the movie I am. That is where the Panasonics and Sonys have an upper edge - and Sony even more so, as they have a popup menu to change some audio and video options while you are playing the movies.

As for the RESUME problem? I am not sure, but it could be because the movies with JAVA in them have to load all sorts of stuff before they can play, and when you restart, they have to reload everything all over again. But the non-JAVA BD movies have nothing to pre-load, so would act like a normal DVD.


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Originally Posted by ncvinny View Post

I am not sure if this question was answered in this thread becuase I could not find a definitive answer. Anyway, I thought this was BD-LIVE out of the box and when I tried to watch BD-LIVE with the follwing movies: 21 and Iron Man, it tells me BD-LIVE is not present and to check my network connection. When I look at the manual it has a BD-LIVE menu option which I do not see. I have my blu-ray player connected to the lan port on the player and I see it has an IP addres in my router. Has anyone been able to get BD-LIVE to work?

The BD LIVE menu option is not (YET????????) on the 2550, but from the 2500 manual I just downloaded it shows that it should have a BD LIVE menu option. And as both my 2550 and the new 2500 manual I downloaded lists both models on the front page (as I GUESS they share the same manual), I would assume that this is a new updated manual, and apparently geared more towards the newer 2500. Perhaps (????????) we will see this option soon if and when we GET a new FW update?

Another item I noticed in the new downloaded 2500 manual, is that it says it has ONE GIG INTERNAL MEMORY, but from what I gather, our 2550 only has a few hundred MEGS of internal memory? Hmmmm. Are we getting short changed? Perhaps exchange the 2550 for the 2500??????

Another thing though, I see no mention of HQV for the 2500. Does it still have the same Reon chip in it that the 2550 has?
post #302 of 7056
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rocky View Post

The BD LIVE menu option is not (YET????????) on the 2550, but from the 2500 manual I just downloaded it shows that it should have a BD LIVE menu option. And as both my 2550 and the new 2500 manual I downloaded lists both models on the front page (as I GUESS they share the same manual), I would assume that this is a new updated manual, and apparently geared more towards the newer 2500. Perhaps (????????) we will see this option soon if and when we GET a new FW update?

Another item I noticed in the new downloaded 2500 manual, is that it says it has ONE GIG INTERNAL MEMORY, but from what I gather, our 2550 only has a few hundred MEGS of internal memory? Hmmmm. Are we getting short changed? Perhaps exchange the 2550 for the 2500??????

Another thing though, I see no mention of HQV for the 2500. Does it still have the same Reon chip in it that the 2550 has?

From what I've seen, the two are the same.. aren't they? I thought that the 2550 was just for BB so they don't have to price match. Everything I've seen for both players says that they are BD-Live "ready", though some of the other material says it's all good to go "out of the box". I also thought that the 2550 also had one gig of internal memory. Gonna have to check on that one I guess. The 2500 should also have the Reon in it as well..
post #303 of 7056
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Originally Posted by sszudzik View Post

From what I've seen, the two are the same.. aren't they? I thought that the 2550 was just for BB so they don't have to price match. Everything I've seen for both players says that they are BD-Live "ready", though some of the other material says it's all good to go "out of the box". I also thought that the 2550 also had one gig of internal memory. Gonna have to check on that one I guess. The 2500 should also have the Reon in it as well..

NONE of Sammy's current crop of BD Players (1500, 2550, 2500) are Profile 2.0 as of today. It has been reported that a FW update to enable BD-Live functionality on these players is due this month. Likewise, rumors of an update for HD-DTS MA internal decoding for these players have been circulating. The chipset (Broadcom 7440) on these players is NOT capable of such update. Both 2550 and 2500 have Reon on them and I'm not sure about built-in 1 gig internal memory.
post #304 of 7056
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Originally Posted by scuderia uno View Post

NONE of Sammy's current crop of BD Players (1500, 2550, 2500) are Profile 2.0 as of today. It has been reported that a FW update to enable BD-Live functionality on these players is due this month. Likewise, rumors of an update for HD-DTS MA internal decoding for these players have been circulating. The chipset (Broadcom 7440) on these players is NOT capable of such update. Both 2550 and 2500 have Reon on them and I'm not sure about built-in 1 gig internal memory.


Thanks, that answers a lot
post #305 of 7056
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Originally Posted by scuderia uno View Post

NONE of Sammy's current crop of BD Players (1500, 2550, 2500) are Profile 2.0 as of today. It has been reported that a FW update to enable BD-Live functionality on these players is due this month. Likewise, rumors of an update for HD-DTS MA internal decoding for these players have been circulating. The chipset (Broadcom 7440) on these players is NOT capable of such update. Both 2550 and 2500 have Reon on them and I'm not sure about built-in 1 gig internal memory.

The online manual seems to indicate that the amount of memory would be displayed in the menu, but I don't see that when I go into the persistant storage menus. Yeah, I don't see DTS MA coming either but that's fine by me, I'd rather have my receiver do the decoding anyhow. All in all I'm pretty happy with the unit, don't care too much about the BD-Live personally, certainly not the reason I bought the unit.
post #306 of 7056
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Originally Posted by sszudzik View Post

The online manual seems to indicate that the amount of memory would be displayed in the menu, but I don't see that when I go into the persistant storage menus. Yeah, I don't see DTS MA coming either but that's fine by me, I'd rather have my receiver do the decoding anyhow. All in all I'm pretty happy with the unit, don't care too much about the BD-Live personally, certainly not the reason I bought the unit.

The manual that came with my 2550 (which says both 2500 & 2550 models) does not state how much memory is in mine - guess it is an older version than the new shared 2500/2550 online one is. But, the newer version of the shared manual does not mention "2500 only" as having the 1 GIG internal. And yeah, I too cannot see where to check the actual internal memory size. But it is not that big a deal, as I got a 4 GIG stick in the back of the 2550 anyway, which I got very cheap.

And I am with you sszudzik 1000%! I prefer the AVR to do the decoding. Wouldn't you imagine too, that a receiver that would cost twice as much (or more) than the player, would have the better DACs and decoders for better sound quality? But just like I am getting flamed by a "Jay Davis" on the "Help a new guy pick a BD player" because I am anti-PS3 / anti-LPCM, all those from the "church of the almighty toy box" keep insisting that LPCM is the only way to go, and that you MUST buy a PS3 to have the ultimate in sound and PQ. I think sometimes, it is more like they beat their breasts and shout louder than others, and trash those who don't agree with them, to compensate for the fact that they have older equipment and don't want to upgrade, so the PS3 is fine for them. The ones who cannot afford to upgrade, well, they are not the loud ones and it is not their fault, and the PS3 will at least get them close to what they need. But geez, those PS fanatics, they are almost like a cult!!!!!


PS: Also, in regards to the DACs and decoders in a receiver - isn't that the main job, perhaps the ONLY job for a receiver to do is just that? Play AUDIO the best it can be? And the BD player's job should be to give the best VISUAL PQ? Because if you try to do both, in a cheaper costing "box", you then get a jack of all trades, and a master of none.
post #307 of 7056
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rocky View Post

The manual that came with my 2550 (which says both 2500 & 2550 models) does not state how much memory is in mine - guess it is an older version than the new shared 2500/2550 online one is. But, the newer version of the shared manual does not mention "2500 only" as having the 1 GIG internal. And yeah, I too cannot see where to check the actual internal memory size. But it is not that big a deal, as I got a 4 GIG stick in the back of the 2550 anyway, which I got very cheap.

And I am with you sszudzik 1000%! I prefer the AVR to do the decoding. Wouldn't you imagine too, that a receiver that would cost twice as much (or more) than the player, would have the better DACs and decoders for better sound quality? But just like I am getting flamed by a "Jay Davis" on the "Help a new guy pick a BD player" because I am anti-PS3 / anti-LPCM, all those from the "church of the almighty toy box" keep insisting that LPCM is the only way to go, and that you MUST buy a PS3 to have the ultimate in sound and PQ. I think sometimes, it is more like they beat their breasts and shout louder than others, and trash those who don't agree with them, to compensate for the fact that they have older equipment and don't want to upgrade, so the PS3 is fine for them. The ones who cannot afford to upgrade, well, they are not the loud ones and it is not their fault, and the PS3 will at least get them close to what they need. But geez, those PS fanatics, they are almost like a cult!!!!!


PS: Also, in regards to the DACs and decoders in a receiver - isn't that the main job, perhaps the ONLY job for a receiver to do is just that? Play AUDIO the best it can be? And the BD player's job should be to give the best VISUAL PQ? Because if you try to do both, in a cheaper costing "box", you then get a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

I hear you Rocky. I didn't pay all that money for my Denon 3808 to let something at 1/3 of the price do all the hard work!

Yeah, the PS3Fan Boys are really just struggling to justify their game machine, er... blu ray player... umm. game machine? Yeah, it wants to be everything to everyone and it does an ok job for an all in one, but doesn't necessarily excel at any one place. I'll give it to the PS3, it's a decent BD player for the price but that doesn't mean it's still in your best interest to let it do everything either though.

Like you, I didn't buy my TV because it had the best speakers, I bought it for it's video capabilities. I didn't get my 3808 because it of it's video upscaling, I got it because of what it does for audio (the new update for Dynamic Volume/EQ rocks BTW). I also didn't get the 2550 because of how well it decodes audio tracks. I got it for it's video quality and DVD upscaling (which it does very well). I also got my XBox360 for it's gaming capabilities, not because it could play HD-DVDs... Let the components shine in their respective area's. I'm not 18 anymore, I can afford to buy great components and don't need an all in one toaster-coffee maker-orange juice squeezer..

--Steve
post #308 of 7056
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Originally Posted by sszudzik View Post

Like you, I didn't buy my TV because it had the best speakers, I bought it for it's video capabilities. I didn't get my 3808 because it of it's video upscaling, I got it because of what it does for audio (the new update for Dynamic Volume/EQ rocks BTW). I also didn't get the 2550 because of how well it decodes audio tracks. I got it for it's video quality and DVD upscaling (which it does very well). I also got my XBox360 for it's gaming capabilities, not because it could play HD-DVDs... Let the components shine in their respective area's. I'm not 18 anymore, I can afford to buy great components and don't need an all in one toaster-coffee maker-orange juice squeezer..

--Steve

AMEN!

By the way, the XBox 360 is supposed to get the NetFlix online soon (just like that Roku and the new LG BD300 player), so you can also watch movies they have online as well as the discs they send you in the mail. So that is another + towards not needing the PS3, and the 360 mates perfectly with XP and Visa with its Media Center.

As for me, when it comes to FPS games, mil simms, or MMORPG's = nothing beats the computer. I suck with a controller, but give me a mouse & keyboard and I own ya
post #309 of 7056
I'm having a "pop" issue via analog -- happened playing back PCM soundtrack in Big Hit and DTS-MA (core obviously) in Sunshine. Over optical ("re-encode") I get a clean signal. Any ideas? Since it's analog I can't imagine my receiver is at issue (H/K AVR 435 fyi).

Also, does anyone know with "re-encode" if it is outputting at DTS' full 1.5?
post #310 of 7056
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Originally Posted by milou6 View Post

I'm having a "pop" issue via analog -- happened playing back PCM soundtrack in Big Hit and DTS-MA (core obviously) in Sunshine. Over optical ("re-encode") I get a clean signal. Any ideas? Since it's analog I can't imagine my receiver is at issue (H/K AVR 435 fyi).

Also, does anyone know with "re-encode" if it is outputting at DTS' full 1.5?

From my experience with 5k (same internals except for addition support of HD DVD), if you have your speaker settings in the player set to mixed, e.g. some speakers set to large, some set to small, you will get pops via analog. The solution is set them all to either small or large. So, try set all your speakers to small if you haven't done so already to see if it fixes your issue.

Re-encode should output at full bit-rate.
post #311 of 7056
Thanks, Foxbat! I did have the speaker sizes mixed, so hopefully that will solve it. Also, good to hear the re-encode is likely at full bit-rate -- that's a great option.

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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

From my experience with 5k (same internals except for addition support of HD DVD), if you have your speaker settings in the player set to mixed, e.g. some speakers set to large, some set to small, you will get pops via analog. The solution is set them all to either small or large. So, try set all your speakers to small if you haven't done so already to see if it fixes your issue.

Re-encode should output at full bit-rate.
post #312 of 7056
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rocky View Post

The bonus view that pops up on your screen can be deactivated in the setup, I forgot under which part, but there is a setting called SCREEN MESSAGES - just disable it. But from what I remember from the first time I tried this player, it also removed the time bar that appears when you pause/play movies. And that is one item that I SADLY miss having a button for, as sometimes I NEED to know how much play time is left in a movie, and how much time into the movie I am. That is where the Panasonics and Sonys have an upper edge - and Sony even more so, as they have a popup menu to change some audio and video options while you are playing the movies.

As for the RESUME problem? I am not sure, but it could be because the movies with JAVA in them have to load all sorts of stuff before they can play, and when you restart, they have to reload everything all over again. But the non-JAVA BD movies have nothing to pre-load, so would act like a normal DVD.




The BD LIVE menu option is not (YET????????) on the 2550, but from the 2500 manual I just downloaded it shows that it should have a BD LIVE menu option. And as both my 2550 and the new 2500 manual I downloaded lists both models on the front page (as I GUESS they share the same manual), I would assume that this is a new updated manual, and apparently geared more towards the newer 2500. Perhaps (????????) we will see this option soon if and when we GET a new FW update?

Another item I noticed in the new downloaded 2500 manual, is that it says it has ONE GIG INTERNAL MEMORY, but from what I gather, our 2550 only has a few hundred MEGS of internal memory? Hmmmm. Are we getting short changed? Perhaps exchange the 2550 for the 2500??????

Another thing though, I see no mention of HQV for the 2500. Does it still have the same Reon chip in it that the 2550 has?

It DOES have 1 gig of internal memory-saw it myself (I own one of these). As for the 2500-specs are identical to the 2550-including the Reon HQV.
post #313 of 7056
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Originally Posted by zrdb View Post

It DOES have 1 gig of internal memory-saw it myself (I own one of these). As for the 2500-specs are identical to the 2550-including the Reon HQV.

I emailed Samsung about the BD-Live features for the 2550 but unfortunately have not heard back from them (been 3 days). I'll post here if/when I get something definitive back from them.
post #314 of 7056
So where is the BD-Live update for a BD-Live 'Ready' player? It's ironic that the 'not-ready' player BD-P1500 gets BD-Live update first.
post #315 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

So where is the BD-Live update for a BD-Live 'Ready' player? It's ironic that the 'not-ready' player BD-P1500 gets BD-Live update first.

Is the 2500 out yet? If so, anyone got one, and does it already have BD Live out of the box?
post #316 of 7056
Both CircuitCity and Amazon list BD-P2500. But none of them have it in stock yet. Samsung just released BD-Live update for BD-P1500 yesterday.
post #317 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Both CircuitCity and Amazon list BD-P2500. But none of them have it in stock yet. Samsung just released BD-Live update for BD-P1500 yesterday.

That's promising then. I wouldn't imagine that the one for the 2550 would be too far behind it.
post #318 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

From my experience with 5k (same internals except for addition support of HD DVD), if you have your speaker settings in the player set to mixed, e.g. some speakers set to large, some set to small, you will get pops via analog. The solution is set them all to either small or large. So, try set all your speakers to small if you haven't done so already to see if it fixes your issue.

This did seem to fix the "popping" problem -- thanks!

I have a small high pitch whine in my speakers, though -- I know this could be introduced in a lot of places, from my cables to my amp, but does anyone else have any "noise" when they use analog out? My amp (H/K 435) doesn't produce this sound on any other inputs, and my cables are SACD Monsters (for what that's worth) and I have everything running through a power conditioner. It stops when I power off the player or hit "mute".
post #319 of 7056
Has anybody configured this machine to their network yet?
post #320 of 7056
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Originally Posted by SteveCaron View Post

Has anybody configured this machine to their network yet?

Yes -- worked like a charm. I didn't have to do anything, just plug it in [I did tell it to use my network to set the time]. I've pinged the update server (which tells me there is not update available, as expected).
post #321 of 7056
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Originally Posted by milou6 View Post

Yes -- worked like a charm. I didn't have to do anything, just plug it in [I did tell it to use my network to set the time]. I've pinged the update server (which tells me there is not update available, as expected).

I've been trying to use a Wireless bridge Adapter to get mine on and the bridge isn't quite working.....
post #322 of 7056
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Originally Posted by SteveCaron View Post

I've been trying to use a Wireless bridge Adapter to get mine on and the bridge isn't quite working.....

Just wondering - when I used my PS3 through wireless, and my Linksys router (45TG) was using security, on the PS3 I had to setup a security KEY and PW on it. The PS3 had an actual configuration screen for inputting this. A regular player only has just DHCP or manual IP input, with no way (that I have seen?) to input the code. So perhaps that is the problem?
post #323 of 7056
Wireless bridge receives wireless on one end and has an ethernet port on the other. To the player, it will be just like a wired port. However, the bridge itself DOES need to be configured, usually through a PC running special software. It's the toughest part to configure it correctly. Once configured, it can be used with any devices.
post #324 of 7056
The latest firmware update for the 1500 enables BDLive on the units.It works rather nicely as a matter of fact, though i prefer Disney's BDLive material over Sony's.
post #325 of 7056
So got the email back from Samsung support. Doesn't say much of use though:

Thank you for contacting Samsung email support,
A firmware upgrade for the BD-P2550 should be available soon.
post #326 of 7056
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Originally Posted by sszudzik View Post

So got the email back from Samsung support. Doesn't say much of use though:

Thank you for contacting Samsung email support,
A firmware upgrade for the BD-P2550 should be available soon.


That is as bad as the Chicago Cubs used to chant "The Cubs will shine in 69!" back when I was a kid. Neat saying, with a lot of hope! But the problem is, they never said WHAT CENTURY that 69 was in bwahahahahaha!

PS: I am a White Sox fan anyway hehehehe
post #327 of 7056
I am thinking about upgrading very soon from my sammy 1200.

1-Does the 2550 behave like standard dvd players when using play, stop, pause, restart instead of restarting a disk after stopping or pause timer stopping?

2-Have there been any bluray titles, older or recent releases, that tripped up the player requiring a firmware update?

All inputs are appreciated.
post #328 of 7056
Why does it seem that the most talk about BluRay players is the Sony 350/550 and the Panny 35/55 and not on the Samsung 2500/2550?

I had a Sony 350 and returned it for the 2550. The 350 worked great, sounded good and was fairly fast BUT I thought the Blu Ray picture wasn't as superb as all are saying. The upconversion on the 350 was soft and fluctuated, not nearly as good as the 2550. Now I don't care as much for the upconversion as I do for the Blu Ray PQ but I think the Sammy is just as good if not a tad better. It has even faster load times than the Sony 350 too.

I am really surprised that I don't hear more about the 2550 on this site other than Samsungs are not good.

I would like to see a Pro review of this player.
post #329 of 7056
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Originally Posted by flyers View Post

Why does it seem that the most talk about BluRay players is the Sony 350/550 and the Panny 35/55 and not on the Samsung 2500/2550?

I had a Sony 350 and returned it for the 2550. The 350 worked great, sounded good and was fairly fast BUT I thought the Blu Ray picture wasn't as superb as all are saying. The upconversion on the 350 was soft and fluctuated, not nearly as good as the 2550. Now I don't care as much for the upconversion as I do for the Blu Ray PQ but I think the Sammy is just as good if not a tad better. It has even faster load times than the Sony 350 too.

I am really surprised that I don't hear more about the 2550 on this site other than Samsungs are not good.

I would like to see a Pro review of this player.

AS you said so yourself - as far as BD players go, the Samsungs do not have the higest of reputations. Yes, they make killer Hi-Def TV's, but they just don't have the reputation "history" of expensive and high end players that Sony, Panasonic. and Pioneer do. And as for design of the actual "box", the 2500/2550 are rather plain compared to the others. It doesn't even have a blue light (or letters) that light up when playing a BD vs a DVD, like even the LG has, let along Sony and the others. And even though such a minor detail, the Samsung screensaver is boring, and even has jaggies in it, unlike the nice ones LG, Sony, and the others have. So until someone else has actually tried it, and the seen the HQV at work, they won't know. But again, the HQV is inside the box, and only seen while playing a movie. Just like checking out a possible "date" - the first impression is what the outside looks like. And for some, they go no farther than that
post #330 of 7056
Well, I have to agree to a point and that the Sammy's aren't as well made as the Sony and of course the Pio, but you'll pay an arm and a leg for the Pio. As for the "jagged" screensaver, I noticed that too and went into the menu and changed the Sharp setting to low and that fixed it. You might want to try it.

Regardless of what the box looks like it performs well and I understand what your saying but heck if it was the very best BR player and it looked like a blender, who cares it all about the PQ in my book.
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