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post #3001 of 7069
I'm looking at getting the pioneer 51 or Samsung 2550/2500 for up-conversion of SD DVD. I have the Panasonic RP82 dvd player will I see a difference in PQ with SD DVD. I'm using a Panasonic ax200u FP.
post #3002 of 7069
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Originally Posted by jsil View Post

I'm looking at getting the pioneer 51 or Samsung 2550/2500 for up-conversion of SD DVD. I have the Panasonic RP82 dvd player will I see a difference in PQ with SD DVD. I'm using a Panasonic ax200u FP.

FWIW, Pioneer is spinning off their DVD business. The good news is that you might get some good deals on Pioneer players. The bad news is that support may become difficult to find.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/06/p...ff-dvd-busine/

As far as picture quality, I don't have a comparison to those players but here's an article on the Samsung BD-P2550 that includes several comments on their SD upscaling. The P2550 scored 110 out of 130 on the HQV 480i tests.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817...129TX1K0000530
post #3003 of 7069
For a temp solution I cut off the sub from the settings in the receiver & set it to mains for bass only. I turned up the subs setting. The sub will only play when the 6 Channel analog is engaged. Sucks, but most cable shows don't have much low end LFE anyway. I try not to buy into conspiracy theories, But it seems the companys did this to make us want to upgrade to the newer receivers with HI-Rez HDMI decoding.
post #3004 of 7069
I am a Samsung BD-P1500 owner which is connected to a Integra 9.8 and then to a Samsung 5884 Plasma. t's a great setup except I always have problems playing movies. I'll be half way through and the movie will skip. Today the Bluray iron man just won't even play. It's ethernet connected and the firmware is up to date.

I'm now looking at the BD-p2500 player as a replacement and with hopes that maybe it will do a better job of actually playing Bluray movies and secondly it looks as though it's the same size so it should fit into my custom Atlantic Rack?

Can you please give me an opinion as to if I'm moving in the right direction? Any other thoughts are appreciated.

Thanks.
post #3005 of 7069
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Originally Posted by jongig View Post

I am a Samsung BD-P1500 owner which is connected to a Integra 9.8 and then to a Samsung 5884 Plasma. t's a great setup except I always have problems playing movies. I'll be half way through and the movie will skip. Today the Bluray iron man just won't even play. It's ethernet connected and the firmware is up to date.

I'm now looking at the BD-p2500 player as a replacement and with hopes that maybe it will do a better job of actually playing Bluray movies and secondly it looks as though it's the same size so it should fit into my custom Atlantic Rack?

Can you please give me an opinion as to if I'm moving in the right direction? Any other thoughts are appreciated.

Thanks.

Does your rack setup allow for sufficient airflow? The 1500 does run a bit hot. The 25x0 has an internal fan which the 1500 does not offer. But if you are stuffing it into some sort of rack system this may add to thermal buildup. I suggest looking at the rack allignment first.

Try pulling out the 1500 and see it it behaves the same way when not in your rack system. The 1500 has a tendancy to get hot on the bottom of the unit. Try elevating it a bit and see if this helps.
post #3006 of 7069
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Originally Posted by Old AV Buff View Post

I try not to buy into conspiracy theories, But it seems the companys did this to make us want to upgrade to the newer receivers with HI-Rez HDMI decoding.

They did this ever since DVD-Aduio players were released (which predates HDMI). Unfortunately a lot of AVRs can't properly handle multi-ch analog inputs even though such problem existed 5 or 6 years ago. The reason hehind is that LFE channel is too hot. Without lowering 10db, it will clip. But since some SACD players don't do this at all, I concluded as a lack of standardization on multi-ch analog connections.
post #3007 of 7069
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Originally Posted by nextoo View Post

Does your rack setup allow for sufficient airflow? The 1500 does run a bit hot. The 25x0 has an internal fan which the 1500 does not offer. But if you are stuffing it into some sort of rack system this may add to thermal buildup. I suggest looking at the rack allignment first.

Try pulling out the 1500 and see it it behaves the same way when not in your rack system. The 1500 has a tendancy to get hot on the bottom of the unit. Try elevating it a bit and see if this helps.

No air issues and not stuffed. It has 1U space below and above I have adequate air flow. I was aware of the heat problem and I aggree the unit gets very hot on the bottom but the unit skips very randomly and the iron Man movie doesn't play from the get-go.
post #3008 of 7069
Jongig,

I think someone already answered your issue with Ironman in 1500 thread.
post #3009 of 7069
Just for the record, does the SAMSUNG BD-P2500 support DIVX files now??? If so does the unit require the lastest firmware 2.4 to support divx????
post #3010 of 7069
I have my P2500 and AVR connected to a UPS unit. I have them both switched such that when the UPS is in the off position AVR and P2500 have power shut off completely. With 2.3 I had no issues with power cycles. Recently sometime after the 2.4 upg. the P2500 requires activation every time I turn it on. Its a bit bothersome. Is there a way to make the activation persistent ? Anybody experience this.

I am considering contacting Samsung support about this..
post #3011 of 7069
Apologies in advance as I'm sure this gets asked a lot..but the thread is huge now...
BB is out of stock everywhere and I would like to use Pandora. Has anyone applied the 2510 firmware and applied to a 2500 to enable Pandora?
post #3012 of 7069
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Just for the record, does the SAMSUNG BD-P2500 support DIVX files now??? If so does the unit require the lastest firmware 2.4 to support divx????

I don't think so. I have 2.4 installed and my Div-X files do not play. Sure wish they would though.
post #3013 of 7069
I've had the 2550 for a couple of weeks now, and my impressions are a mixed bag. This is my first BD player, so maybe they're all screwy, but some of these things are really getting on my nerves. I have the latest 2.4 firmware installed, and am hooked into a Pioneer 1018 receiver and Sanyo Z4 projector. I have the audio set to bitstream audiophile and video to 1080i.

Playing CD's it regularly STOPS the disc entirely after a few seconds of play. Restarting it will resume the disc indefinitely so far.

Lots of audio drops on BD and SD DVD discs when changing chapters, layer changes, menu's, etc. This is bothering me worse than anything else.

Seems to produce small 'pops' or 'tick' sounds in the audio every now and then.

The picture on this thing is amazing though, BD and SD DVD's. It also seems to load very fast, pretty much as quick as most DVD players I've used.

Is anyone else experiencing these same issues? Is there a workaround other than returning it and getting a different BD player (PS3, Panny 55)?
post #3014 of 7069
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Originally Posted by mslbebiz View Post

I've had the 2550 for a couple of weeks now, and my impressions are a mixed bag. This is my first BD player, so maybe they're all screwy, but some of these things are really getting on my nerves. I have the latest 2.4 firmware installed, and am hooked into a Pioneer 1018 receiver and Sanyo Z4 projector. I have the audio set to bitstream audiophile and video to 1080i.

Playing CD's it regularly STOPS the disc entirely after a few seconds of play. Restarting it will resume the disc indefinitely so far.

Lots of audio drops on BD and SD DVD discs when changing chapters, layer changes, menu's, etc. This is bothering me worse than anything else.

Seems to produce small 'pops' or 'tick' sounds in the audio every now and then.

The picture on this thing is amazing though, BD and SD DVD's. It also seems to load very fast, pretty much as quick as most DVD players I've used.

Is anyone else experiencing these same issues? Is there a workaround other than returning it and getting a different BD player (PS3, Panny 55)?

I have the 2550 and have had none of those problems. I love it. Sounds like you might want to contact Samsung about those issues as well as maybe look into getting it replaced. I would stick with the Samsung though. I work at a Magnolia Home Theater in a BBY as a senior and deal with the players every day. The 2550 is the only player (so far) that will stream Netflix AND pandora... Beautiful deal. The PS3 is good too, but it scares me seeing as how BluRay is still such a new technology, if something happens to the unit, youre not only out a player but your gaming system as well. If you want to go with the ps3, buy the replacement plan for sure, if possible.
post #3015 of 7069
so after reading post after post, am I to assume that with all the latest firmware that the BD-P2500 would edge out a Sony BDP-S550?

Those are the 2 players I'm down to, both are within a few bucks of each other pricewise, can someone help me decide? Legacy DVD upconversion is a big issue for me too, and I get the general feeling that the Sammy wins in this category.

Thanks.
post #3016 of 7069
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Originally Posted by AngelPoop View Post

I have the 2550 and have had none of those problems. I love it. Sounds like you might want to contact Samsung about those issues as well as maybe look into getting it replaced. I would stick with the Samsung though. I work at a Magnolia Home Theater in a BBY as a senior and deal with the players every day. The 2550 is the only player (so far) that will stream Netflix AND pandora... Beautiful deal. The PS3 is good too, but it scares me seeing as how BluRay is still such a new technology, if something happens to the unit, youre not only out a player but your gaming system as well. If you want to go with the ps3, buy the replacement plan for sure, if possible.

Can you tell us when BB will restock the 2550?
post #3017 of 7069
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Originally Posted by mslbebiz View Post

Seems to produce small 'pops' or 'tick' sounds in the audio every now and then.

You didn't say what your audio connection is between the BDP and AVR (analog, digital, or HDMI) or how the BDP is configured (reencode, LPCM, audiophile, etc.), but it has been discussed much in this thread (2-3 months ago) how the 25x0s emit such noises if the speakers are not all set the same (e.g., all "large" or all "small").
post #3018 of 7069
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Originally Posted by The Engineer View Post

so after reading post after post, am I to assume that with all the latest firmware that the BD-P2500 would edge out a Sony BDP-S550?

Those are the 2 players I'm down to, both are within a few bucks of each other pricewise, can someone help me decide? Legacy DVD upconversion is a big issue for me too, and I get the general feeling that the Sammy wins in this category.

Thanks.

Regarding DVD upconversion, the Samsung 2500 scored 110 out of 130 on the HQV Benchmark. The Sony 350 (which should be the same as the 550) scored 86 out of 130.

http://www.pcmag.com/compare_product...pt=0&sid=27353
post #3019 of 7069
Hi folks.

I recently bought a Toshiba 40RV525U LCD TV and last week got the BD-P2500 from Amazon. I updated to the latest firmware first job out of the box.

I have a problem in that when I put a DVD in the unit the HDMI output seems to go wonky, I just get mostly a black screen with no audio, interspersed with half-second bursts of what looks like general 'static' on the screen, when the static changes back to black I get a burst of audio lasting only a fraction of a second.

If I leave the player playing the disk (I can see the time counter counting up so I know it's playing) eventually (after 2-4 minutes) the audio comes on properly and so does the picture but instead of the colour being correct it's like a washed out green colour. The only way to reset is to power the unit off and on.

If I have no disk in the tray I can turn the unit on and go to netflix and everything is fine. I have tried a different HDMI cable and it's the same, and tried the HDMI cable with my cheapie Philips DVD player and the cable seems fine on that.

I have used the composite video cables from the player to the TV and the output is fine on that, but obviously that's less than ideal as it's going Digital > Analogue > Digital - and besides it defeats the object of connecting via HDMI.

I have yet to try any Blu-Ray disks as I haven't got any yet, I am waiting for Galapagos and Planet Earth from Amazon and a movie from Netflix, but none have arrived yet.

The manual says that if one sees static it is that the monitor is not HDCP compliant, but I can't imagine that of a new model 1080p TV.

Any ideas what could be wrong with my setup? Or does it sound like I have a lemon?

Someone on another forum suggested that if my cable is not 1.3 compliant this could be the problem. I have had these cables less than 6 months so I thought maybe they were 1.3 but I am not sure.
post #3020 of 7069
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Originally Posted by mikeynavy1 View Post

Well it looks like there may be a slight difference between early and late builds of the 2550. I exchanged a September build for a December build (I experienced a few audio and video glitches). My dad has an October build. The September and October builds displayed the "Samsung blue screen without Pandora and Netflix" for a split second and then turn off during the boot sequence. After a little bit the normal start screen comes on. This December build just goes right to load and then goes directly to the Samsung screen showing Pandora and Netflix....it seems faster. Also, the newer one comes in a different box...although they are all 2550s. Go figure.

I hope someone can get some (inside) info on this, because this sounds like a FIRMWARE/BOOT difference, not a hardware difference. I'm not denying it's true (this description is dead-on), but if it WERE a hardware change, why did they do it? If it was to prevent dropouts (I hear the occasional audio dropout ONLY on standard DVDs and ONLY via Toslink), that would suggest no amount of software updates would fix it.
post #3021 of 7069
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Originally Posted by Chase View Post

2550
Linksys WGN600n

Main cable connection is consistent 9+Mbps. (Comcast)

Wireless between WGN and Router is great.

Sometimes I get full HD, sometimes half bars. Sometimes I'll get sound and no picture (but Sammy control overlay is still there). Sometimes sound is way out of sync.

If I stream on my laptop via wireless, its almost always perfect.

For instance, I have a old Dr. Who setup to stream: The Ribos Operation. I've tried it in the middle of the night, as well as during the day. Sound track is totally out of sync. Played on laptop, its fine.

30 Rock: episode 4 of season 1 kept playing sound but no picture. Laptop was fine. Then the next day, all episodes of 30 Rock were full HD and perfect. This morning, they are all maybe 2/3 quality. Laptop is fine.

This sucks. Any ideas?

Sounds like you are having a similar problem to mine with the sound being out of sync. Some movies stream fine others have the sound way out of sync but play fine on my PC.
post #3022 of 7069
My audio is set to bitstream audiophile via HDMI cable. All speakers are set to small and x'ed over to a sub at 80Hz.

The audio drops don't seem to happen when set to bitstream re-encode, but then I lose HD audio (for instance receiver shows only DTS or Digital instead of DTS Master Audio or Dolby TrueHD). So the issue is with the BD player.
post #3023 of 7069
Since now the player can decode every codec, you can also set to PCM. But I agree that your player maybe at fault when you bitstream and got audio drops.
post #3024 of 7069
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Originally Posted by mslbebiz View Post

My audio is set to bitstream audiophile via HDMI cable. All speakers are set to small and x'ed over to a sub at 80Hz.

The audio drops don't seem to happen when set to bitstream re-encode, but then I lose HD audio (for instance receiver shows only DTS or Digital instead of DTS Master Audio or Dolby TrueHD). So the issue is with the BD player.

I'm having some different audio problems with audiophile bitstream to my Denon AVR-1909. With DTS-HD Master any seeking operation drops the audio until I hit pause, then play. Another 1909 owner has confirmed the same issue with this player. My Sony BDP-S350 has no such problem. And the Wall-E disc plays no audio at the start of the disc until I do the pause/play trick (also reported in the P1500 owners' thread). I sent feedback to Samsung here:

http://ars.samsung.com/customer/form...=1&PROD_ID=788

I encourage others looking for firmware fixes to do the same. I also plan to call their customer support folks to discuss the audio problems plus the netflix 24p bug. The video quality with this player has me quite happy, but I'd really like them to fix some of these bugs.
post #3025 of 7069
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Originally Posted by mslbebiz View Post

I've had the 2550 for a couple of weeks now, and my impressions are a mixed bag. This is my first BD player, so maybe they're all screwy, but some of these things are really getting on my nerves. I have the latest 2.4 firmware installed, and am hooked into a Pioneer 1018 receiver and Sanyo Z4 projector. I have the audio set to bitstream audiophile and video to 1080i.

Playing CD's it regularly STOPS the disc entirely after a few seconds of play. Restarting it will resume the disc indefinitely so far.

Lots of audio drops on BD and SD DVD discs when changing chapters, layer changes, menu's, etc. This is bothering me worse than anything else.

Seems to produce small 'pops' or 'tick' sounds in the audio every now and then.

The picture on this thing is amazing though, BD and SD DVD's. It also seems to load very fast, pretty much as quick as most DVD players I've used.

Is anyone else experiencing these same issues? Is there a workaround other than returning it and getting a different BD player (PS3, Panny 55)?

Your 2550 is a top notch player. It is fairly new, so exchange it for the same unit. The Panny 55, you won't find it. Is playing games a big deal in your life?

Bob

p.s. Follow AngelPoop advice
post #3026 of 7069
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Your 2550 is a top notch player. It is fairly new, so exchange it for the same unit. The Panny 55, you won't find it. Is playing games a big deal in your life?

I agree, I chose this player because it seemed the best of the lot for the money. And bested most players in many aspects.

I'm doubtful that the stores have any more 2550's in stock though, there's been a big problem with finding them.

As far as gaming, and the PS3, I've considered it because I wouldn't mind playing a few of the new games (racing!), but movies are 99% for me. I'm also not fond of fan noise as I like the lowest noise floor possible, and I believe the PS3 has issues with bitstreaming lossless as well.
post #3027 of 7069
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Originally Posted by tractng View Post

Hello,

Just curious what speakers size (small, large, etc) you guys are setting on the BD. I have mirage omd 15 fronts and omd-c2 as center. When I run the Audyssey, it configures them as "Full Band".



tnt

Hi tractng,

If your Omd 15 have good bass extension, set them as Large on your BD player. And set all other speakers as Small (even if you don't have back/rear
surround, say yes and set them as Small, of course).
By the way, when you ask a question about setup, speakers and Audyssey;
please, try to be more explicit by giving more details about the connection(s)
used and other stuff that might help us to help you.

Have a great day

Bob
post #3028 of 7069
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Originally Posted by Dirty Mo Posse View Post

I am still a little lost on this!!!

From what I have been reading, if the movie is 24fps capable I SHOULD be using it???

What viewing differences will I see between 24fps & 60fps??

Thanks!



DMP

If your TV is 1080p and 24fps compatible, then set your player for 1080p and 24fps. The advantage is a smoother picture with fast moving action scenes
and less judder (fuzzy artifact).

Have a nice day

Bob
post #3029 of 7069
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Originally Posted by Old AV Buff View Post

I have just bought a BD-P2500. Updated to 2.4 firmware. My idea was to use it with my older Yamaha V630 AV receiver using the 5.1 analog inputs for the DTS-HD & MA audio. I have done listening tests comparing standard DD & DTS through the receiver decoder with optical connect to the analog outs from the player to analog inputs. I have found the sound for the sub way lower with the analog path than with the receivers decode of the standard DD & DTS output. I would have to adjust the subs output a lot higher to compensate. But, when I switch back to my cable box audio, then the sub is way to high. Anyone else have the same problem? Any solution?
PS. I have the players speaker setting set to small for the frt, cnt, & surround with sub on.

HI Old AV Buff,

Does your Yamaha V630 have any kind of subwoofer level adjustement for the 5.1 multichannel analog input? If it does, turn the level up till it sounds go to you. Or you can always use a Radio Shack level meter (preferably the analog version) to help you getting in the ball park.

Happy day

Bob
post #3030 of 7069
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Originally Posted by The Engineer View Post

so after reading post after post, am I to assume that with all the latest firmware that the BD-P2500 would edge out a Sony BDP-S550?

Those are the 2 players I'm down to, both are within a few bucks of each other pricewise, can someone help me decide? Legacy DVD upconversion is a big issue for me too, and I get the general feeling that the Sammy wins in this category.

Thanks.

Definitively the BD-P2500. And without looking back.

Nice day to you

Bob
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