Samsung BD-2550/BD-P2500 Master Thread - Page 12

Just picked up a BD-P2500 at my local Circuit City this weekend, and it was the last one on the shelf. Not sure exactly what the differences are between the Best Buy P2550 and this one, but I'm liking it. Load times are quick compared to my antiquidated BD-P1000, and haven't had any errors on the BD's I've tried so far - Iron Man, Transformers, & 300.

There is no difference between the 2500 and the 2550. The 2550 was exclusive to ONLY Best Buy that is why the difference numbering scheme.

What is your TV and how does the BR PQ compare to the P1000?

I had the Sony 350 player and returned it because the picture quality on Blu ray was no way near the UP5000 I had. I went and bought the Samsung BD-2550 and the picture quality is very impressive.

That's good to hear Bori, I felt the same. How does the PQ on the 2550 compare with your UP5000?

The picture quality is great on the Samsung. I was very disappointed with the Sony because right off the bat I noticed a lot of blurry scenes with the 350. It sometimes felt like I was watching SD instead of HD. I hear a lot that most BD players are similar when it comes to playing BDs. This is the furtherest from the truth. I have witnessed this first hand when it comes to the BD2550 vs Sony 350.

I bought the BD-P2550 at best buy would they price match the BD-P2500 at circuit city? The price at circuit city is 349 compared to 399 at bestbuy but, its sold as the 2550 at best buy instead of 2500.

I've had the BD P2550 for around a month and a half and other than being steamed about the price drop (I paid 499.99) this is the best DVD player and Blu Ray player I've ever owned. You will notice that there is this over all assuredness to the load up of Blu-rays that I've not experienced except on my brother's PS3... though I have to give the edge to this machine.

It might be too early for this but I think this is going to be a classic machine.

Has anyone heard any mention about a possible FW release in the future to support internal decoding of DTS-HD MA for analog outs?

I'm pretty sure I heard that the internals are capable of doing it.

I agree, I had the 350 as well and the upconversion was soft and blurry at times but the BR playback was good but not overwhelmingly great like I keep reading.

I've read all these posts and they go on and on and on and on about the audio inputs/outputs and while I care, I mostly care about the picture quality and no one seems to talk about that much anymore.

The older Samsungs where plagued with problems and buggy so I think that has turn off a lot of people to even consider the Sammy and it's too bad for them.

Bori, I don't think Best Buy will honor the price difference because it's a different model number, eventhough they are the same player. It woud be hard for them to justify it and rightly so. You can always return the 2550 and get the 2500 at CC if you want to save the $50 but I suspect that BB will drop prices soon on these for the holidays.

I am a new owner of the BD-P2550 and so far I am very pleased. I also own the BD-P1400, HD-A30 & HD-A1. I picked the P2500 because it was the most advanced BRP Best Buy had to offer in my price range.

-Upgradeable to 2.0
-7.1 Analog outs
-Internally decodes all but DTS-MA
-HQV chip

Comparisons
-way better up conversion than P1400
-way faster load times than my other players, especially SD disks
-great BD picture quality
-Most of all, user friendly controls and menu features

I love the HD DVD menu controls and was so annoyed by the lack of them on my P1400. I'm not big into screen in screen and other special features but I didn't have the option to watch them on P1400. The P2550 is better in this respect and offers all but web special features (for now).

I have been wondering if Dolby HD is decoded and passed through the analog outputs so I decided to drop Samsung an email.
My question:
Does the 2550 pass Dolby HD signals and DTS HD through the 7.1 analog outputs or only through the HDMI output?
Their answer:
The analog outputs only transmit left and right audio. For digital you must use an HDMI or Digital Optical cable.

Should I have qualified the question with "internally decode and pass Dolby HD and DTS HD......" or should they have been smart enough to figure it out?
Certainly more than left and right audio is coming out of 7.1 outputs.

I bought the Samsung 2550 396.00 out the door, and just got the Samsung 2500 from Circuit City today for 340.00 total out the door. I am going to return the 2550 to Best Buy. I just want to make sure there is no difference between the two correct?

Yeah, they are the same. In fact there are pictures on the web of someone that opened up the 2500 and inside it was stamped 2550 on many of the parts.

Is there anyone that can compare the upconversion PQ of DVDs between the Samsung 2550 and the Xbox 360's HD-DVD player? I'm seriously debating getting this machine, but if they are close in quality, then I'm just gonna get the Samsung 1500 instead. Thanks for any help with this!

I can also confirm that BB's price match is strictly model# based, so they aren't gonna match it to CC.

-DES

LOL! But, if it looked like a blender, then it could also mix drinks for me! That would be a huge bonus in my eyes

I never had the 360 HD DVD player, but had heard it had lots of problems. But why get the 1500 and not the 2500/2550? It does not come with the HQV Reon in it, does it?

As for the BB price match - hmmmm, if they were to open up the box and look at the manual, on the cover it says "for models 2500 and 2550". But then, if they won't match it, then back it goes (sadly, cause I do prefer BB over CC) and off to get the 2500.

But then I wonder . . . . . might there not be some differences inside the 2500 we might not know about? As it is coming a month or more latter than the 2550, there might have been some changes/improvements made internally, from feedback received from 2550 owners.

Also, is the 2500 BD Live right out of the box, or does it too need to wait for the FW update?

There is a difference between the BP-2550 and the BD-2500. If you look at the front of the control panel. The circular knob that has the rewind and ff buttons has a silver bezel around it on the BD-2500 and the BD-2550 does not. Sorry if I scared anyone By the way did anyone notice that the BD-2500 comes with a free NFL blu ray disc inside the box. If these players are the same why don't we change the name of the thread and add the 2500 into the title.

360 uses main box to upscale DVD, nothing to do with HDDVD player. It's quality can't hold a candle to 2550's Reon.

[quote=pablo234;14856436]I have been wondering if Dolby HD is decoded and passed through the analog outputs so I decided to drop Samsung an email.

THIS IS A DISAPPOINTMENT!
I kept push Samsung for the answer to the Dolby HD question and after the third response this is what they said:
It outputs as Non HD surround sound becuas eyou are going through analog.
I love the PQ of this player but for $100 more I would have bought the Panasonic DMPBD50 because it does pass the HD sound through the analog outputs.

Pablo234,

Good luck finding answers from Samsung support. If 2550 is similar to BD-UP5000 (I think it is because they share the similar internals), you will get Dolby TrueHD out of analog w/o doubt. We have this all figured out in BD-UP5000 Firmware 1.3 thread. You just have to test it yourself. You have to find a Dolby TrueHD 7.1 disc (it's rare but does exist) and see if it plays all 7.1 out of the analog output. The only thing you won't get from Analog out is DTS-HD HR or MA tracks. For those tracks, you will still get 5.1 DTS core decoded.

Here is a link to a Polish site where they opened up the 2500. Notice the Reon and Broadcom chips. Also, you will see that there are a few shots of some chips that actually have BD-P2550 stamped on them. I find that interesting knowing that the 2550 was a Best Buy Only player.

http://hdtvpolska.com/index.php?showtopic=12401

I had the UP5000 and now I bought the BD-2500. I have a question is there a reason why when watching a movie blu ray, on fast action scenes I can see some lines on the screen. Kind of like the 1080 lines. Hopefully somebody can understand what I am talking about. By the way I have a 1080i television set.

Bori, did you see them with the 2550? Does it happen all the time and with every BR disc? It could be an interlacing issue but it could also be the disk. I could very well be a glitch if it doesn't happen all the time. If it does, exchange it.

I noticed it with the UP5000, BD2550 and the BD2500 I just got. It seems to be all the Samsungs. It did not do this with the Sony 350 or my PS3. It does not happen all the time its something you need to look for. I noticed it is more obvious with animated movies. By the way my player is hooked up to a Onkyo 805 with monopriced hdmi cables.

bori,

Is your TV a CRT 1080i or fixed-pixel panel with 1080i input? If it is later, you may want to try 720p because your TV's de-interlacer may be the one to blame.

Interesting. I had the Sony 350 and I think the Sammy has a better BR PQ. I haven't noticed what your saying on my 2550. Does it only happen on BR movies or does it happen on SD DVD's as well? I was going to say it might be your TV but since it didn't do it with the 350 then it seems like it's the player. I will have to look but I didn't notice any interlace issues with mine. I will have to run an animated movie.

BTW, I have my BR direct to my TV via HDMI/DVI (older TV) and using Toslink optical through an Onkyo TX-SR701 for my audio.

Just for trial and error to see if you can nail it down, you might want to run direct to your TV to check and mybe even try a different HDMI cable. Just a thought.

I was going to say that but he said it didn't happen with the Sony, or least it might be that he didn't notice it.

BY output 1080i, you effectively bypassed the wonderful de-interlacer in the player that is called Reon HQV. And now you're at the mercy of your TV to de-interlace them properly.

It could also be that Sammy players have problem output 1080i properly. Either case, I'd avoid to use 1080i.

So, that is a good question. If your TV is set to 1080i, and the Sammy is at 1080i then which does it default to?

How do you get around that? Set the TV to 720P and keep the Sammy at 1080i?

I have a Sony rear projection LCD 60 inch. I agree with you flyers that the BD-2500 has better picture quality I am not disputing that at all but, if it doesnt deinterlace as good as the Sony I will be disappointed. You know what I have noticed the same problem when watching HD programing that I recorded on Media center. Maybe it is my tv I am not sure but, why do I keep seeing this with only my Samsung players?