Samsung BD-2550/BD-P2500 Master Thread - Page 135

Does anyone who has the 2550 use it to stream Netflix content over a wireless connection?

I am considering one of these for both the Blu-Ray playback as well as netflix streaming however I don't have any way to run a cat5 cable to where the player would be located and would have to use a wireless connection.

Also, does the graphics processor in this model do a good job upconverting standard definition Netflix content?

luclin999,

Do you have power outlets near your Broadband connection, and where your Samsung 2500/2550 will be?

If so, then use powerline adapters found at Best Buy, or other places. The Belkin's are currently on Clearance, and can be found for about $64 for a pair of powerline adapters that are rated upt to 85 Mbps download, which is more than ample for streaming(3Mbps download will get you HD).

This is the best way to go, as I have always found wired much more reliable then wireless in almost any type of streaming or so forth.

The HQV processor does a great job with the picture and upconverting signals from regular DVD's, and SD content from Netflix Streaming(HDMI connection set at 1080p).

But it also depends on your display. If you have a 46" or bigger, you might feel the picture is "yuck" with SD streaming and DVD's upconverted, no matter what you do.

I always feel if the display is calibrated well by you, or a pro, everything looks pretty darn good. Some SD/DVD's, are better than others, and Blu-Ray will look just gorgeous.

But that is the way I would go. Get powerline adapters by either Belkin(on Clearance), or netgear(MUCH more expensive).

If you already have a router, wired or wireless, then connecting the powerline adapters is SUPER EASY. Just Plug and Play. Just make sure you connect them directly to the wall socket, and not have a powersurge/powerstrip in the way because it will not work at all in that setup.

My only concern with using the powerline network adapters is that the power in this house is fairly "dirty" with the voltage dipping and spiking all day long.

To compensate, I have all of my video and computer equipment on line conditioners and UPS systems.

I would be hesitant to plug one of the adapters into an unprotected outlet. Do these things work when run through a line conditioner?

After many emails to both Pandora and Samsung with several useless "fixes", turns out that they end up pointing the finger at each other. My guess is that we should not expect a fix any time soon. I have noticed that the problem is worse during the first thirty minutes or so of listening then things tend to settle down.

Equipment setup:
bd-p2500
Yamaha rx-v1600

How do I get the 7.1 surround to work with the 2500? I'm using an hdmi connection between the 2500 and the v1600 and have the format set to PCM. I just watched the Transporter 3 on blu-ray and didn't motice the rear speakers light up on the v1600's display. Is there something I'm missing? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

I think you have to use the 7.1 out connections [RCA] to your receiver’s 7.1 input connections. At least that is the way it is on my Onkyo.

This ain't rocket science. Just always start the player by pressing the open/close button on the remote. The player will fire up but then open the tray so that any disc inside doesn't play. You'll have full access to your Pandora/Netflix selections then.

Is there an Official Pandora thread or can we ask questions here?

I like the idea of it but the navigation leaves alot to be desired. Can we search for a particular artist/song? I had created an account on Pandora a few minutes before i connected my 2550 to my router. Started a "station" and listened to a few songs. I then connected the 2550 and I guess after entering the activation code it found my account. It only gives me the radio station and "quick Mix" (I think that' was the name). It wouldn't let me skip through to find stuff I like. i had to keep going back and forth from my radio station to Quick Mix.

Not trying to complain about a free service. Just seems it's not easy to navigate through????

From the manual:

PCM: "You cannot hear DTS-MA sound with this setting......."


And the soundtrack from Transporter 3 is DTS-MA.

I looked up the specs on your receiver, it looks like it doesn't decode either DTS-MA or Dolby TrueHD , nor do you have 1.3 HDMI so you can't bitstream and let the receiver decode for you over HDMI.


BUT: Do you have the latest firmware installed? Originally I believe the 2500/2550 didn't decode DTS-MA but that was fixed through a firmware update. Make you have the latest firmware installed and I THINK that will solve your problem.

When I turn on my BD-P2500 my TV (toshiba, lcd something like a 40XF5500U--I know that's not right, but something like that) displays a message "Unsupported video signal" but will then either (1) stay like that, (2) come up with a Splash screen without the netflix logo then go black then come back with the netflix logo, (3) come on with the splash screen without the netflix logo and then go back to unsupported video signal message. In cases 1 and 3 if I turn it off and on enough times it eventually works.

Anyone have any ideas on this?

Do you have the 2500 set to output a 1080p signal, and if so does your display support 1080p?

I am curious about how the Reon improves the Netflix image. I have an HD-XA2 and know how good the Reon is at de-interlacing DVDs. However, the Netflix streams are already de-interlaced, so what is it that the Reon is providing --- just good scaling or is there some other detail enhancement type stuff going on?

I currently have a Roku player and am on the waiting list for one of the reburbished Samsungs. I really do want a second Netflx player, but is the Samsung 2550 really going to be 2x as good as the Roku player, since that is how more it will cost? And for reference I have a 60" 1080p Kuro plasma calibrated and sit 9-10 feet away.

Yes and yes.

Yes, I use a wireless bridge to connect my P2500 to the internet. I'm able to stream HD netflix content this way.

I do have the latest firmware and it seems to play DTS-MA fine. But for some reason I'm getting 5.1 instead of 7.1, at least thats how is looks from the display on the receiver. Any other thoughts??

what makes you think it's playing DTS-MA fine? Your receiver won't show that it's receving that signal when the input it's receiving is PCM. As far as I know, the DTS-MA track contains the "core" track within it, and that track would be 5.1. The process is automatic and seamless from what I know, you just automatically get the core track if it's not possible to send the DTS_MA track. This leads me to believe the receiver may be getting the core track. If the receiver doesn't show that it's receiving a 7.1 track (can you put your ears by the rear speakers to see if you can actually hear anything at all?) I can think of a few things, maybe someone else can chime in as well:

1) The 2500 is not correctly decoding the DTS-MA track, either the unit is faulty, or you don't actually have the latest firmware installed even though you think you do, or that firmware is bad in some way.

2) Try connecting the unit using the 7.1 analog outputs and see if that fixes the problem.

Part of the licensing of the music for Pandora includes the prohibition from Pandora allowing folks to call up a song immediately -- therefore it has to operate more like a radio station. So you create "stations" based upon the song or artist that you can customize with "Thumbs Up" or "Thumbs Down" on songs you like. That aspect of putting in a song and then hearing other songs similar (albeit sometimes I'm not sure how... ) is the part I most like. I did start piling up the TU/TD on each channel and found I was hearing a lot of repeats, so I used the computer interface to remove them and began again being more selective...

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No one else experienced this problem? Any suggestions are welcome!

thanks.

how did you remove them on your pc?

And, say a song comes on that I like. Or it played two songs back. can I listen to it again?

I get what you're saying about it being like a "radio station". I just wish I could have a playlist of sorts and be able to only hear from that artist. Guess that would not be what the creaters wanted.
still pretty cool though.

I'm confused with the contrast setting on this player. Should I set it here, or on the TV, or both?

If it should be set on the player, what is the recommended setting? I currently have it set to medium.


Thank you in advance.

I've wondered this myself. I think it was posted earlier that Samsung stated there was "minimal" Reon processing applied to Netflix.

Just ordered this: Gefen Ethernet-over-coax adapter.

It should come in with one Sender unit and one receiver unit. It's a little bit more expensive than powerline adapters. But it has following advantages:

1. Can be safely used with surge protectors. That's the biggest concern I have with power line adapter (beside it is almost impossible to plug them directly to the wall outlet without using an extension cord). Over the years, I had many damaged components due to the surge.

2. Much higher speed. Real world speed should be between 70 to 130 mbps. And low ping. Very important if you also hook up a game console. Or you want to stream HD video from a PC. No wireless or powerline adapters can pass HD video streaming test without hiccup. Note, this is not Netflix stream which uses much less bandwidth (5 mbps max). HD video from PC can reach 20+mbps.

3. The receiver has four Ethernet ports already.

Best of all, I already have multiple coax cable runs inside my house. This can be used with your existing cable TV coax (you will need a splitter) or in my case unused coax cables.

Tried Transporter 3 in my 2550. The trailer audio played fine, but when the DTS Master HD logo comes on, no more audio. Had to watch the movie in my PS3. Have a Monoprice HDMI 1.3 cable connected to a Sammy 650 LCD. Latest firmware via download: 090104.01_111208B0_1254.08_XAA

Glad I have PS3 redundancy.

The main page http://www.pandora.com/ should load a Flash Application where you log into Pandora, and it should begin playing on the last station you selected.

On the lower right of the station name, there is an drop-down menu labeled "options".
In this menu is the selection to "Edit station details", which should open another tab/window on that station.
On this page, you can edit the: Artist Seeds, Song Seeds, Thumbed-up Songs, and Thumbed-down Songs. Also see #36 Q: How can I increase variety on the playlist for my station? and #67 Q: How can I edit a station?

My preferences (and Pandora's charter / purpose) aside, Pandora is specifically prevented from allowing [on-demand play] -- probably a [music industry] risk mitigation effort so users cannot just go and get/rip a particular song -- users never sure when they will ever hear the seed song... #25 Q: Why can't I listen to a particular song immediately [on-demand]? Why is there no rewind button or replay button?

Here is the top link to the FAQ: http://blog.pandora.com/faq/

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I'm a little dense this morning so bear with me, you've lost me somewhere

You have the 2550 hooked directly to your display???

So how are you getting, or should I say expecting to get, the DTS-MA 7.1 soundtrack thru your display?

Can anyone help me with this question please?

I'm fairly new to this stuff and just purchased the 2550. Can I assume it has the latest firmware? If not, what's the easiest way for me to check or upgrade it?

Thanks in advance

Yep, HDMI cable directly to a Samsung TV. The audio played correctly out of my PS3 via HDMI directly to the TV so it must have down-converted the audio, which is why I was expecting the same from my 2550.

Since the PS3 can't bitstream I'll assume you had it set up to send the signal as PCM to the display.

I'll further assume you have the 2550 set up to output as PCM? If so, I refer you to this post:



Last question would be if you have another BD with DTS-MA try that and see if it works.

The Roku does a very good job for what it is, but the Samsung is a little bit better in my totally unscientific eyeball tests... 2x better???, probably not, but better nonetheless. The Reon does make a more subtle difference in Netflix watch now than it does in upconverting SDs. My guess is that's it's probably through the sharpening and noise reduction more than the deinterlacing.

I just bought one and it didn't have the latest firmware. The firmware and update instructions are here:

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/do...&menu=download