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post #4741 of 7056
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Originally Posted by vectner View Post

Just a clarification, whether you have a disc in the tray or not is not the only problem. Even with the disc removed, you can brick your unit. The pop up window says "Ensure NO DISC status". that means your player needs to be displaying "NO DISC" on the front before you start the upload. Simply removing the disc when prompted is not enough. You should restart your player with out a disc in to ensure that you have NO DISC status on the player BEFORE you start an update.

This is of course a horrible design flaw, and it seems that Samsung is currently out of boards to replace the ones that break with a botched update. I just received a notice that parts are on back order and my repair will take a little while longer

I had not seen this board prior to the update request. And I did have a disc in the player, which stayed in the machine during the whole process. Fortunately for me, the upgrade proceeded smoothly, and I have not seen any problems.
post #4742 of 7056
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Originally Posted by vectner View Post

Just a clarification, whether you have a disc in the tray or not is not the only problem. Even with the disc removed, you can brick your unit. The pop up window says "Ensure NO DISC status". that means your player needs to be displaying "NO DISC" on the front before you start the upload. Simply removing the disc when prompted is not enough. You should restart your player with out a disc in to ensure that you have NO DISC status on the player BEFORE you start an update.

This is of course a horrible design flaw, and it seems that Samsung is currently out of boards to replace the ones that break with a botched update. I just received a notice that parts are on back order and my repair will take a little while longer

i bricked mine-and unfortunately it is a refurb. unit. I do not have the luxury to send it to SAMSUNG for repair under Warranty. Fortunately the vendor, E-outlet of Canada, has been quite good!!
post #4743 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard View Post

Yes but the question is whether or not there is a newer version of the Silicon Optix Reon chip in the BD-P25xx than used in the older BD-P1200 and I don't know the answer to that.

Chris

From the Reon on a 2550 mainboard:

HQV
REON-VX
SXVX-50
Silicon Optix
0816 P4p220 . 00
SPIL Taiwan
post #4744 of 7056
My guess is that the Reon used in the 1200 and the 25x0 are the same. The Reon VX 50.

A real difference between the 1200 and the 25x0 is the Broadcom SOC. The 1200 uses the BCM7411 and the 25x0 uses the significantly more robust BCM7440.
post #4745 of 7056
I own the 2550 which is connected to my Onkyo receiver which doesn't have hdmi thru 7.1 analog. When playing blu-ray the sound seems great but if I play a sd dvd I seem to get a low hum coming from the s/w. If I switch to my optical input the hum goes away. Has anyone else noticed this should the DD track play thru analogs as well as the optical? The player seems great otherwise so I hope there's a reason why this happens and it's not a bad unit. Thanks for any help.
post #4746 of 7056
no issues with the new firmware here
post #4747 of 7056
Quote:
Originally Posted by nextoo View Post

From the Reon on a 2550 mainboard:

HQV
REON-VX
SXVX-50
Silicon Optix
0816 P4p220 . 00
SPIL Taiwan

I have not opened up my BD-P1200 to check but I have read it uses Reon-VX50. I just tried to go the Silicon Optix site which I thought might indicate whether there are different versions of the VX50 chip but I can only stay at that site a few seconds and I am redirected to the IDT site where I found a press release that IDT had purchased Silicon Optix last October. I couldn't find much information about the Reon chip at that site.

Chris
post #4748 of 7056
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

I have a 2500 with ver 2.5 installed (via USB, confirmed by the System Information screen).

I still get a black screen when streaming Netflix and the 2500 is set to 24 fps. I have the screen while the buffering is happening, but the screen blanks completely (I still have audio) when the actual streaming display begins.

It is a no big deal for me to set the 2500 to 60 fps, because my Samsung DLP set HL61A750 always displays it's image at 1080p (60 fps). So, either the 2500 or my TV will have to convert 24 fps to 60 fps. I have chosen to leave my 2500 to 60 fps to avoid the streaming problem.

What puzzles me us that everyone else here has had their streaming problems fixed by firmware 2.5, but not me. Why?


I'm in a similar boat. Streaming worked fine with v 2.4. I just added v2.5v2 (skipped v1) and now I'm getting this blank screen. It seems to be an HDMI issue because if I stop and start the stream and then hit TV/VIDEO on the TV I can get it to come up albeit in the wrong aspect.

Unlike most people here I'm using 1080i (since my TV can't do 1080p). I do not have 24fps set on the unit. I guess in trying to fix 1080p, Samsung seems to have broken 1080i. Awesome.

Where can I download the older 2.4 to go back?
post #4749 of 7056
I searched the thread and didn't find anyone saying they received the following error message:

"your bd player's netflix keys have been hacked" and it said I could no longer play Netflix movies on my player. So I'm going to just post how I fixed it since the answers were spread out on this thread. I can't say each step is necessary, but it worked. I have the newest firmware.

1. Deactivated the player at Netflix's website. Under "Your Account" ...
2. Hard reset by pressing fast-forward on the player for five seconds with no disc.
3. Attempt to play a Netflix movie (red "A" button on main screen).
4. Perform the regular activation process for Netflix.
5. Reenter Time Zone, Time, etc. settings in player.

Hope that helps somebody in the future.
post #4750 of 7056
One or two folks have asked me if I have the BD-P2500 v2.4 (US) firmware as they want to revert.

I've uploaded it to rapidshare here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/22833407...v24us.zip.html

It's the CD image firmware, just burn with Nero or another burning app that likes ISOs.
post #4751 of 7056
Does anyone have problems playing DVDs? My 2550 is very finnicky reading standard DVDs, with continual freezes. Many discs are unwatchable. Granted these are from Netflix and not of perfect quality, but I can usually play these same discs in my old $20 player without a problem. I have only one Bluray disc, which plays without a problem. I suspect I have a defective or misaligned player.
post #4752 of 7056
I own three BD-P2550 players. I have upgraded the FW on each one to FW 2.5 and each player performs flawlessly. For those that have problems with 2.5, I am sorry that you have had problems but that has not been my experience. I write this because I find that on this thread and others that people tend to report bad experiences more than positives.
post #4753 of 7056
I'm a new member and this is my first post, so I'll start with my setup:

Samsung BD-P2550 Blu-ray player connected (component video, optical audio) to a Yamaha HTR-5490 receiver which sends the component video to my Hitachi 61UWX10BA 61" rear-projection 16x9, 1080i TV, and the audio to Velodyne CHT Front Row System speakers/CHT-8 sub. I also have an HD-DVD player connected to my Xbox 360.

I've updated the firmware on my Samsung BD-P2550 directly over the internet several times since purchasing shortly after Christmas this year. However, I've seen reports of bricked players on this thread, which has me concerned. Here is what I saw for the firmware version when connecting via the internet just a few minutes ago:

Current Version: 090104.01.XAA
New Version: 090419_01_XAA

It would appear that my current version is v2.4 and the new version is v2.5 (judging by filenames in downloadable zips). I've had no problems with the firmware update itself, however, I have had some issues with the overall performance of this player. In general, I'm a fan of the old saying, "If it is not broken, don't fix it".

But I've noticed some issues that had me thinking either the player was a piece of junk (or that the Blu-ray spec itself was junk since my HD-DVD never had these problems). Looking at some posts, it seems perhaps this is a good player, but plagued with buggy firmware.

Specifically, I've seen the choppy Pandora problems (song plays for about 10-30 seconds, then just stops and goes on to the next track--and I verified my network connection was flawless), slow BD disc load times, and accidentally pressing stop in a movie when I meant to hit pause means restarting the whole movie from load to manually skipping to where I left off (my old std DVD players were smart enough to pick up where I left off unless I hit stop twice). However, the most irritating thing to me is having the screen go black temporarily in the middle of a scene. This usually seems to happen during flashes of extreme brightness (which makes it all the more disconcerting) such as explosions in action flicks. Also, the test tone through my optical input fails to come out of my surrounds (but perhaps since my trusty old receiver only understands up to 6.1 it may just be having problems decoding the signal--even though I've told the BD player my speaker setup is 5.1).

So, now that you've read this far , my question is this: does anyone know what bugs this latest version of the firmware is supposed to fix?

I cannot seem to find this information on Samsung's website, and the downloadable zip files do not seem to have a readme stating the fixes (like most driver/BIOS updates usually do).

I'm extremely tempted to try the new firmware, but reading some of the posts about it has me thinking I may be better off just living with the irritating bugs (or getting rid of it) instead of dealing with a risky firmware update.

Oh, and regarding USB or CD vs. internet update I've seen in this thread: I'm pretty sure the last time I did it, it performed a cyclic redundancy check (CRC) on the downloaded data before proceeding with the update. So a bad data download should never make it into the firmware and should not be the cause of any bricking, so one method should not really be "superior" to the othersthey are just a matter of convenience.
post #4754 of 7056
I purchased my 2550 about two weeks ago.
As soon as I installed it I updated the player to the latest 2.5 on CD ( April 22) and it has been playing flawlessly.
Today I wanted to watch a bluray and as soon as I inserted the disc, I got a message suggesting me to updtate to a newer firmware. Obviously, I said no fearing to brock my player. Then I checked the Samsung website to see if there was newer firware and there wasn't.

Have you been experiencing the same?

Thanks
post #4755 of 7056
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Originally Posted by tomgrossi View Post

Where can I download the older 2.4 to go back?

I have the 2.4 and 2.5v2 USB update files for the 2500 (and ALL of 2550 USB update files) on my Windows Home Server. See the instructions in my post #3748 in this thread (except look in the BD-P2500 folder instead of in the BD-P2550 folder).
post #4756 of 7056
I've said it before and I'll say it once more-use the usb flashdrive method to update your firmware-don't do it off the internet-it seems that it's about 50% more likely to result in a bricked player that way. I've never plugged an ethernet cable into the back of my 2500 and never will. In other words netflix and whatever other stuff like it aren't of any use to me
post #4757 of 7056
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Originally Posted by zrdb View Post

I've said it before and I'll say in once more-use the usb flashdrive method to update your firmware-don't do in off the internet-it seems that it's about 50% more likely to result in a bricked player that way. I've never plugged an ethernet cable into the back of my 2500 and never will. In other words netflix and whatever other stuff like it aren't of any use to me

I agree fully but I don't understand why anyone would not use the USB. I tried both, no problem either way but using the USB it took only about 2 minutes to load 2.4 and 4 minutes to load 2.5. It is a real time saver even with the added time to download to the USB, and then you have the benefit of having a saved copy.
post #4758 of 7056
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Originally Posted by avman09 View Post

I agree fully but I don't understand why anyone would not use the USB.

You're missing the obvious then. The USB port is on the back of the unit.

The DVD/CD tray is on the front (DUH). So for me it's far more convenient to use the CD firmware updating option, given the configuration of items in my TV stand.

The reason why I don't do the update over ethernet is it takes 30 minutes to download it.
post #4759 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Loobster View Post

You're missing the obvious then. The USB port is on the back of the unit.

The DVD/CD tray is on the front (DUH). So for me it's far more convenient to use the CD firmware updating option, given the configuration of items in my TV stand.

An short USB extension cable will solve that problem easily. Here's one for less than $1: http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
post #4760 of 7056
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loobster View Post

You're missing the obvious then. The USB port is on the back of the unit.

The DVD/CD tray is on the front (DUH). So for me it's far more convenient to use the CD firmware updating option, given the configuration of items in my TV stand.

The reason why I don't do the update over ethernet is it takes 30 minutes to download it.

I was referring to those who seemed to prefer doing it via the Ethernet, but thanks anyway because in fact I never thought of the convenience of using CD from the front.
post #4761 of 7056
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leorex View Post

I'm a new member and this is my first post, so I'll start with my setup:

Samsung BD-P2550 Blu-ray player connected (component video, optical audio) to a Yamaha HTR-5490 receiver which sends the component video to my Hitachi 61UWX10BA 61" rear-projection 16x9, 1080i TV, and the audio to Velodyne CHT Front Row System speakers/CHT-8 sub. I also have an HD-DVD player connected to my Xbox 360.

I've updated the firmware on my Samsung BD-P2550 directly over the internet several times since purchasing shortly after Christmas this year. However, I've seen reports of bricked players on this thread, which has me concerned. Here is what I saw for the firmware version when connecting via the internet just a few minutes ago:

Current Version: 090104.01.XAA
New Version: 090419_01_XAA

It would appear that my current version is v2.4 and the new version is v2.5 (judging by filenames in downloadable zips). I've had no problems with the firmware update itself, however, I have had some issues with the overall performance of this player. In general, I'm a fan of the old saying, "If it is not broken, don't fix it".

But I've noticed some issues that had me thinking either the player was a piece of junk (or that the Blu-ray spec itself was junk since my HD-DVD never had these problems). Looking at some posts, it seems perhaps this is a good player, but plagued with buggy firmware.

Specifically, I've seen the choppy Pandora problems (song plays for about 10-30 seconds, then just stops and goes on to the next track and I verified my network connection was flawless), slow BD disc load times, and accidentally pressing stop in a movie when I meant to hit pause means restarting the whole movie from load to manually skipping to where I left off (my old std DVD players were smart enough to pick up where I left off unless I hit stop twice). However, the most irritating thing to me is having the screen go black temporarily in the middle of a scene. This usually seems to happen during flashes of extreme brightness (which makes it all the more disconcerting) such as explosions in action flicks. Also, the test tone through my optical input fails to come out of my surrounds (but perhaps since my trusty old receiver only understands up to 6.1 it may just be having problems decoding the signal--even though I've told the BD player my speaker setup is 5.1).

So, now that you've read this far , my question is this: does anyone know what bugs this latest version of the firmware is supposed to fix?

I cannot seem to find this information on Samsung's website, and the downloadable zip files do not seem to have a readme stating the fixes (like most driver/BIOS updates usually do).

I'm extremely tempted to try the new firmware, but reading some of the posts about it has me thinking I may be better off just living with the irritating bugs (or getting rid of it) instead of dealing with a risky firmware update.

Oh, and regarding USB or CD vs. internet update I've seen in this thread: I'm pretty sure the last time I did it, it performed a cyclic redundancy check (CRC) on the downloaded data before proceeding with the update. So a bad data download should never make it into the firmware and should not be the cause of any bricking, so one method should not really be "superior" to the othersthey are just a matter of convenience.

2.5 v2 should fix your Pandora dropouts.

You will need to use the pause button and then the enter button to resume playback on BD's (or the bookmark function.)

The speaker test tones will not function over an optical connection. Use the test tones on your receiver. The 25x0's test tones are for analogue outs of your Blu-Ray player only.
post #4762 of 7056
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Originally Posted by jbaraga View Post

Does anyone have problems playing DVDs? My 2550 is very finnicky reading standard DVDs, with continual freezes. Many discs are unwatchable. Granted these are from Netflix and not of perfect quality, but I can usually play these same discs in my old $20 player without a problem. I have only one Bluray disc, which plays without a problem. I suspect I have a defective or misaligned player.

I've had the 2550 since August and I've not had any issues..... I had 1 disc that froze but it was truley a defective disc as I tried it in 2 other machines and it did the same thing.
post #4763 of 7056
I've recently acquired two 2500 units. I have few questions regarding netflix subscription before I sign up.
Is it possible to stream to both machines at the same time?
Is the $8.99 netflix really give you unlimited movie viewing?
Do they stream movies in high def yet?
Thank you.
post #4764 of 7056
If you stream (HD) at the same time in both units your internet speed wouls surely be affected, therefore, you would experience drops in the signals.
If they advertise unlimited view for 8.99, it is unlimited, otherwise, they would state how many hours a month.

When you go to instant view, go to genre, then you will see the HD option. These are the movies available for streaming in HD. I think that there are about 250/300, considering that there are many tv series.
post #4765 of 7056
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Originally Posted by zrdb View Post

I've said it before and I'll say it once more-use the usb flashdrive method to update your firmware-don't do it off the internet-it seems that it's about 50% more likely to result in a bricked player that way. I've never plugged an ethernet cable into the back of my 2500 and never will. In other words netflix and whatever other stuff like it aren't of any use to me

I've updated the firmware twice via ethernet and never had an issue. Both updates took perfectly the first time. That's why I don't bother using USB or disc.

Of course, I've yet to have an issue with Netflix that didn't turn out to be an encoding problem. Of course, I'm also not doing 24p since my TV doesn't support it natively.
post #4766 of 7056
Hi all,

I'm new to these forums and I have this question. Do these players play DivX files? Thanks.
post #4767 of 7056
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Originally Posted by wobbegong View Post

An short USB extension cable will solve that problem easily. Here's one for less than $1: http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I've got enough cables back there, don't need another.

For me the CD is the most convenient way to do it - for others it may be different.
post #4768 of 7056
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Originally Posted by Blu-whale View Post

Hi all,

I'm new to these forums and I have this question. Do these players play DivX files? Thanks.

Currently the UK firmware allows for playing MPEG4 material, the US/Canadian firmware does not.
post #4769 of 7056
I upgraded my 2500 over the internet to the new and improved 2.5 firmware about 10 days ago. Like others here have pointed out it resolved the Netflix freezing issues. (Interesting sidebar- I tried to do the update using a USB flashdrive and while the light on the drive was flashing the firmware read/upgrade sequence never initiated. After 10 minutes I gave up, pulled out the drive and just did it over ethernet)

However, we seem to have a new problem. We were watching the Hellboy II BluRay disk (from Universal) when we decided to pause the movie for a few minutes to get some popcorn. It was about 17 minutes into the movie. When we came back the screen was showing a Universal themed screensaver (not the usual Samsung one). We thought that was odd, but whatever.

Unfortunately we could not re-start the movie- Play, fast-forward, stop, Menu- nothing worked. The only one that worked was "Power".

Is this a player issue or something Fubared on the disk itself?
post #4770 of 7056
Quote:
Originally Posted by madkiwi View Post

I upgraded my 2500 over the internet to the new and improved 2.5 firmware about 10 days ago. Like others here have pointed out it resolved the Netflix freezing issues. (Interesting sidebar- I tried to do the update using a USB flashdrive and while the light on the drive was flashing the firmware read/upgrade sequence never initiated. After 10 minutes I gave up, pulled out the drive and just did it over ethernet)

However, we seem to have a new problem. We were watching the Hellboy II BluRay disk (from Universal) when we decided to pause the movie for a few minutes to get some popcorn. It was about 17 minutes into the movie. When we came back the screen was showing a Universal themed screensaver (not the usual Samsung one). We thought that was odd, but whatever.

Unfortunately we could not re-start the movie- Play, fast-forward, stop, Menu- nothing worked. The only one that worked was "Power".

Is this a player issue or something Fubared on the disk itself?

Hit the "Enter" button after a pause. The movie will resume from where you left off.
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