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post #31 of 2746
8/25/08 at 8:29am
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Originally Posted by gurkey View Post

It doesn't really show, if the DSPs have changed in terms of hardware (chips).
Just the descriptors within the firmware version display seem to have changed...

I think he may have physically looked at the markings on the DSP chips, since he pulled the cover off of the 906 and compared it with what the inside of the 905 looks like.

I don't know how fast I would be pulling the cover off of a 2K AVR that's still warm from production.
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post #32 of 2746
8/25/08 at 9:40am
Jon S Can you please check on the "zoom" mode?? If you look at the 4th post in this thread it will give you the info needed! PLEASE!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...=#post14507215
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post #33 of 2746
8/25/08 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by AdamWL View Post

I think he may have physically looked at the markings on the DSP chips, since he pulled the cover off of the 906 and compared it with what the inside of the 905 looks like.

I don't know how fast I would be pulling the cover off of a 2K AVR that's still warm from production.

I am not sure, if they are readily available by opening the cover.
I think, they are hidden somewhere deeper within, where they are not easily visible.
I don't remember, where mine have been (several months have passed by already).
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post #34 of 2746
8/25/08 at 7:02pm
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Originally Posted by W3bbY View Post

Jon S Can you please check on the "zoom" mode?? If you look at the 4th post in this thread it will give you the info needed! PLEASE!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...=#post14507215

see my second post...
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post #35 of 2746
8/25/08 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by AdamWL View Post

I think he may have physically looked at the markings on the DSP chips, since he pulled the cover off of the 906 and compared it with what the inside of the 905 looks like.

I don't know how fast I would be pulling the cover off of a 2K AVR that's still warm from production.

sorry... i did not look at the actual DSPs... I just looked at the firmware numbers...
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post #36 of 2746
8/25/08 at 9:09pm
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Originally Posted by Jon S View Post

see my second post...

Ahh cool...didn see thats you updated the 2nd post...
This is great news!!!!!! Thanks! I was going to buy a scaler for this but now Ill just upgrade my 905
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post #37 of 2746
8/25/08 at 10:09pm
How does she sound man.....how does she look.......????? I wanna here things like....."yippie the sync/delay issue is gone......" and "awesome....no more color space issue....!"......

whew...... lost it there for a moment.......
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post #38 of 2746
8/26/08 at 1:40am
Yes Jon we are waiting, ordered the 906 but might cancel it like I just did on my studio hybrid if it is no good :-)
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post #39 of 2746
8/26/08 at 7:38am
Is it just me that noticed that one of the connectors by the metal shielding is disconnected in the last picture of the interior?

Did you disconnect it to be able to take the cover off?
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post #40 of 2746
8/26/08 at 8:48pm
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Originally Posted by firefreak View Post

Is it just me that noticed that one of the connectors by the metal shielding is disconnected in the last picture of the interior?

Did you disconnect it to be able to take the cover off?

Looks like it was disconnected but it is actually soldered to the plate...
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post #41 of 2746
8/26/08 at 8:50pm
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Originally Posted by toolwarrior View Post

How does she sound man.....how does she look.......????? I wanna here things like....."yippie the sync/delay issue is gone......" and "awesome....no more color space issue....!"......

whew...... lost it there for a moment.......

well, it sounds just like the 905 and it looks EXACTLY like the 905... unfortunately, i never had a problem with synch delay on my 905 so I cannot really tell if it was fixed or not... I am not sure about the color space issue you are asking... I am using a JVC RS-1 and the colors on the projector is not accurate so it would be hard to know if there is a color space issue.
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post #42 of 2746
8/26/08 at 10:08pm
Jon, have you tried the vTuner service? Does it work well, relative to the GUI user interface and overall useability?

What's the approximate delay time (in seconds) when you switch source devices or source resolution, before you see the image of the new source content (when the Reon is enabled)? Is there an image delay experienced when a source device (BD player) changes from 60Hz to 24Hz and visa versa?

Thanks for the insights!
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post #43 of 2746
8/27/08 at 9:44am
Just out of curiosity, but what exactly has changed in the 906 over the 905? Personally, I've never had any problems with my 905 as others here have experienced. Would there be any point in upgrading to the 906 from the 905?
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post #44 of 2746
8/27/08 at 9:48am
I put together a new feature comparison list of the new Onkyo versions and referenced the changes over prior models. For the 905 to 906, other than a 5W increase in output, it appears all the changes are in firmware. Too bad we couldn't load up the 906 software in our 905s!

Anyway, I also put in all the various links to Onkyo's site, product manuals, AVS sites, etc. for each model as well.

http://www.faqware.com/Receivers/Onk...ison_2008.html
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post #45 of 2746
8/27/08 at 10:07am
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Originally Posted by vcor View Post

Too bad we couldn't load up the 906 software in our 905s!

Forgive the naive question, but if the 905 and 906 are indeed exactly the same hardware-wise, why couldn't we do what you suggest? I guess we'd need access to the firmware first...
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post #46 of 2746
8/27/08 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

Forgive the naive question, but if the 905 and 906 are indeed exactly the same hardware-wise, why couldn't we do what you suggest? I guess we'd need access to the firmware first...

It's not that simple you know, even if the hardware is exactly the same. The whole point has to do with what, if any, precautions have been taken by Onkyo to restrict these actions. I am not saying that it cannot be done but it can be easily restricted.

Are you willing to take the plunge?
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post #47 of 2746
8/27/08 at 11:38am
vcor, I looked at your chart, are you sure the 806 uses burr brown DACs? it doesnt say it does that i could see on onks site.
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post #48 of 2746
8/27/08 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by alumataz View Post

vcor, I looked at your chart, are you sure the 806 uses burr brown DACs? it doesnt say it does that i could see on onks site.

Yes it does. Look under features. The 876 and up does.

http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=...s=Receiver&p=f
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post #49 of 2746
8/27/08 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by Jakeman02 View Post

Yes it does. Look under features. The 876 and up does.

http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=...s=Receiver&p=f

Correct but the 806 is under the 876 and does not have Burr Browns.

Mike
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post #50 of 2746
8/27/08 at 2:58pm
VCOR, really appreciate your putting together the comparison chart. I have a few corrections based on your sources and an Onkyo 806 press release. I only include these because getting the facts right is what a comparison is all about. I welcome your comments. Here goes:

1. THD on the 806 is .08 (manual)
2. S/N is 110 db on all units (manuals)
3. 806 has Audyssey MultiEQ w/6 seating positions (manual)
4. (addition) 876 & 906 have Audyssey Dynamic Volume EQ (manual)
5. Dacs for 806 is Cirrus Logic (press release)
6. (addition) 806 has 2 TI Aureus 32 bit chips, the 876 & 906 have 3 Aureus chips
7. Component bandwith for 806 is 50MHz
8. Video Processor for 806 is Faroudja DCDi Cinema (as opposed to the DCDi Edge in 805)
9. 806 has 2 zones
10. Only the 806 has the newly restyled remote which is not backlit
11. MSRP for the 906 = $2299, 876 = $1799, 806 = $1099
12. Dimensions for 806 WHD = 17 1/8" x 7 5/8" x 16 15/16"

I mean no disrespect "just the facts, sir."
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post #51 of 2746
8/27/08 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by doinit1010 View Post

VCOR, really appreciate your putting together the comparison chart. I have a few corrections based on your sources and an Onkyo 806 press release. I only include these because getting the facts right is what a comparison is all about. I welcome your comments. Here goes:

1. THD on the 806 is .08 (manual)
2. S/N is 110 db on all units (manuals)
3. 806 has Audyssey MultiEQ w/6 seating positions (manual)
4. (addition) 876 & 906 have Audyssey Dynamic Volume EQ (manual)
5. Dacs for 806 is Cirrus Logic (press release)
6. (addition) 806 has 2 TI Aureus 32 bit chips, the 876 & 906 have 3 Aureus chips
7. Component bandwith for 806 is 50MHz
8. Video Processor for 806 is Faroudja DCDi Cinema (as opposed to the DCDi Edge in 805)
9. 806 has 2 zones
10. Only the 806 has the newly restyled remote which is not backlit
11. MSRP for the 906 = $2299, 876 = $1799, 806 = $1099
12. Dimensions for 806 WHD = 17 1/8" x 7 5/8" x 16 15/16"

I mean no disrespect "just the facts, sir."

I mean no disrepect either, but from the fact sheet, the 876 only has Audyssey EX, not Dynamic. Is this not the case?
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post #52 of 2746
8/27/08 at 5:48pm
John S,
When scaling Cable TV through the 906's HQV VX50 chip, does it automatically "pillarbox" 4x3 480i content while converting it to 1080p?
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post #53 of 2746
8/27/08 at 5:58pm
According to the fact sheet, they both have Audyssey Dynamic EQ, (Respective "Features" on the Onkyo site) but according to the manual they both (876 & 906) have both Audyssey Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume EQ.
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post #54 of 2746
8/27/08 at 6:11pm
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Originally Posted by doinit1010 View Post

According to the fact sheet, they both have Audyssey Dynamic EQ, (Respective "Features" on the Onkyo site) but according to the manual they both (876 & 906) have both Audyssey Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume EQ.

I just checked the website, and it says XT on the 876, not Dynamic.

http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=...s=Receiver&p=f

The manual gives you the definiteion of both, but does not imply that both units have the Dynamic.
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post #55 of 2746
8/27/08 at 6:41pm
Okay, from the manual of the 876 and 906 (pg. 6). This quote is before the additional things the listed for the 906:
"• Audyssey MultEQ® XT*12 to Correct Room Acoustic
Problems
• Audyssey Dynamic EQ™*12 Loudness Correction
• Audyssey Dynamic Volume™*12"

Both the 876 and 906 under the "Features" heading list Dynamic EQ
BTW, I think that only the 906 has the toroidal transformer.
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post #56 of 2746
8/27/08 at 7:19pm
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Originally Posted by vcor View Post

I put together a new feature comparison list of the new Onkyo versions and referenced the changes over prior models. For the 905 to 906, other than a 5W increase in output, it appears all the changes are in firmware. Too bad we couldn't load up the 906 software in our 905s!

Anyway, I also put in all the various links to Onkyo's site, product manuals, AVS sites, etc. for each model as well.

http://www.faqware.com/Receivers/Onk...ison_2008.html

I don't see Dynamic Volume Control listed ...... I thought they had that?
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post #57 of 2746
8/27/08 at 7:30pm
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Originally Posted by AdamWL View Post

Jon, have you tried the vTuner service? Does it work well, relative to the GUI user interface and overall useability?

What's the approximate delay time (in seconds) when you switch source devices or source resolution, before you see the image of the new source content (when the Reon is enabled)? Is there an image delay experienced when a source device (BD player) changes from 60Hz to 24Hz and visa versa?

Thanks for the insights!

I only have a PS3 connected right now... My denon 3930 is a crap shoot... i am awaiting for a Pioneer BD05 but that is not expected until mid-September... they are shipping by BOAT to Hawaii...
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post #58 of 2746
8/27/08 at 7:32pm
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

John S,
When scaling Cable TV through the 906's HQV VX50 chip, does it automatically "pillarbox" 4x3 480i content while converting it to 1080p?

I do not have cable connected to the unit...
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post #59 of 2746
8/27/08 at 7:38pm
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just to let you know, the ISF features in the receiver are LOCKED out as default and cannot be enabled by a normal user. The ISF features are the gamma and greyscale adjustments...

the menus are kind of tricky. You can exit the setup screens by pressing ENTER.. this will return you to whatever is playing with the CURRENT adjustments overlayed on the bottom of the screen. Pressing the RETURN or SETUP (one or the other, can't remember) button will return you to the setup screens.

Also, stuff like random noise, edge enhancement, mosquito noise, etc are all unavailable unless you disable the preset video settings on each input.
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post #60 of 2746
8/27/08 at 8:20pm
Dynamic Volume EQ is not listed on the Onkyo site (we know how that goes), but is listed in the manual for the 876 & 906. I go by the manual.
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