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post #3061 of 5267
TO each is own to shop retail or online there are benefits for both. Price for sure online and easier return policy locally. The best place to check out a dealer's ratings is resellerratings dot com and that saves people allot of time and problems.
post #3062 of 5267
Does anybody know why is it grey? (at times it looks a bit green to me).

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Originally Posted by sk20 View Post

I'd describe it as a dark grey. Not black.
post #3063 of 5267
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Originally Posted by ROMAN O View Post

TO each is own to shop retail or online there are benefits for both. Price for sure online and easier return policy locally. The best place to check out a dealer's ratings is resellerratings dot com and that saves people allot of time and problems.

This one looks pretty good.

http://www.resellerratings.com/store...y_Technologies
post #3064 of 5267
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Originally Posted by madkaw View Post

This one looks pretty good.

http://www.resellerratings.com/store...y_Technologies

post #3065 of 5267
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Originally Posted by jacobp View Post

When using Internet Explorer, the browser crashes when I enter the password. When using Safari (Mac) or Firefox (Mac), the browser does not crash, but the settings are not saved.

You may have solved this problem by now but I just manage to fix the problem on my computer using IE7. You have to go into tools > Manage addons > Enable or Disable addons. I shut down AVG, google toolbar and other extra items. That fixed the problem and allowed Pioneers smaller window to pop up. I have a feeling it was just google that needed shutting down. Give it a try.
post #3066 of 5267
Have no intentions to convert this thread into Mac vs PC. But it was really shocking to me when I only read Microsoft and Internet Explorer in Pioneer manuals, etc. No mention of Mac or Mac based browsers. Knowing that Apple supports Pioneer displays, and on their stores its hooked up with Apple TV, and also use Pioneer displays in their advertisements. Shouldn'd we have freedom to use either of the options?

Turbe, desparately waiting for my ControlCAL kit . Do you have any plans on developing ControlCAL for Mac?

BTW, Steve Jobs picked up his 141 sometimes in Jan 09 I read this on Apple discussion forums. Steve are you there?
post #3067 of 5267
You can run ControlCAL on a Mac - I do. You just need Fusion or Parallels.
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Originally Posted by stevec325 View Post

You can run ControlCAL on a Mac - I do. You just need Fusion or Parallels.

and Windows
post #3069 of 5267
Parrish; I bought my 141 from BuyBest and beat your Best Buy deal by $700, including a 3 year extended warranty. Thanks Roman.
post #3070 of 5267
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Originally Posted by Yog View Post

and Windows

Ummm... yea - there is that

ControlCAL is one of the few Windoze programs I use.
post #3071 of 5267
Hi everybody, this is my first post here and my very first post. I have been living with a PRO-1540HD for a little over a year and a half and other than arriving with about 200 to 300 bad pixels that required immediate service, it has been a trouble free panel.

Last Friday I took delivery of my PRO-141FD and got the panel switched out and hung around 4:00 Saturday morning. I watched the TV until about 1:00 that afternoon, left to go out of town, came back around 1:15 Sunday morning, turned it on and watched it until about 4:00 a.m. when by body finally gave out. I got up around 10:00 and turned on the panel and watched it until about 9:00 p.m. when it kicked off. There was no warning, no degradation of picture or anything. The panel just kicked off very unexpectedly. I noticed the stutus indicator light flashing and it was flashing 9 times with a short pause. When I tried to power up the TV it would not do anything at all. I unplugged it for a couple of minutes and plugged it back in and still nothing, just the red led flashing 9 times. At this point I decided to allow the panel to cool off completely for a few hours and see what would happen. This time when I hit the on button I would get the blue led for about 1 second or less and then it would click back to red and flash 2 times between pauses. I tried off and on that night and the next day, only to find the same exact problem with the same trouble code. I called the Pioneer service provider for my area and reported the issue yesterday morning. They indicated they had to check with Pioneer and they would get back with me later that afternoon. Here it is 3:00 in the afternoon and I have yet to hear anything back from the service provider.

Has anybody here experienced a problem like this, where the panel shut down and would not power back up? Has anybody here had any trouble codes with the 9 flashes or 2 flashes? Has anybody experienced a slow response time in the service providers to get back with you?

I find it hard to accept that after purchasing a $7000 Signature Series Elite, supposedly the creme de la creme of Pioneer's plasma lineup with hand selected panels and electronics that the unit would break down after less than 2 days of viewing and I am sitting here with a very expensive TV that I can't watch.

I welcome any thoughts, ideas, advice, input, or words of wisdom.

Thanks in advance!
post #3072 of 5267
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Originally Posted by 141Kuro9g4me View Post

Hi everybody, this is my first post here and my very first post. I have been living with a PRO-1540HD for a little over a year and a half and other than arriving with about 200 to 300 bad pixels that required immediate service, it has been a trouble free panel.

Last Friday I took delivery of my PRO-141FD and got the panel switched out and hung around 4:00 Saturday morning. I watched the TV until about 1:00 that afternoon, left to go out of town, came back around 1:15 Sunday morning, turned it on and watched it until about 4:00 a.m. when by body finally gave out. I got up around 10:00 and turned on the panel and watched it until about 9:00 p.m. when it kicked off. There was no warning, no degradation of picture or anything. The panel just kicked off very unexpectedly. I noticed the stutus indicator light flashing and it was flashing 9 times with a short pause. When I tried to power up the TV it would not do anything at all. I unplugged it for a couple of minutes and plugged it back in and still nothing, just the red led flashing 9 times. At this point I decided to allow the panel to cool off completely for a few hours and see what would happen. This time when I hit the on button I would get the blue led for about 1 second or less and then it would click back to red and flash 2 times between pauses. I tried off and on that night and the next day, only to find the same exact problem with the same trouble code. I called the Pioneer service provider for my area and reported the issue yesterday morning. They indicated they had to check with Pioneer and they would get back with me later that afternoon. Here it is 3:00 in the afternoon and I have yet to hear anything back from the service provider.

Has anybody here experienced a problem like this, where the panel shut down and would not power back up? Has anybody here had any trouble codes with the 9 flashes or 2 flashes? Has anybody experienced a slow response time in the service providers to get back with you?

I find it hard to accept that after purchasing a $7000 Signature Series Elite, supposedly the creme de la creme of Pioneer's plasma lineup with hand selected panels and electronics that the unit would break down after less than 2 days of viewing and I am sitting here with a very expensive TV that I can't watch.

I welcome any thoughts, ideas, advice, input, or words of wisdom.

Thanks in advance!

The time it took you to post what happen to your 141FD in 2 different theads could have been used to contact your dealer and get a replacement

The specific issue with your panel requires and authorized dealer to open it up and replace parts. Since you got it 2 days ago, send it back to your dealer and get a new one. Its as easy as that
post #3073 of 5267
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Originally Posted by stevec325 View Post

Ummm... yea - there is that

ControlCAL is one of the few Windoze programs I use.

and I have a complete Mac / OS X development platform here too..

What is that ControlCAL Developer thinking anyways..?
post #3074 of 5267
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

The time it took you to post what happen to your 141FD in 2 different theads could have been used to contact your dealer and get a replacement

The specific issue with your panel requires and authorized dealer to open it up and replace parts. Since you got it 2 days ago, send it back to your dealer and get a new one. Its as easy as that

You must have more time than I do on your hands to check how many threads I posted to. It took me all of about 2 seconds to cut and paste after another member suggested that I go to the 141 thread. That would be the 141 thread that I was totally unfamiliar with since this is my first time here.

I'm sorry that I haven't had the time to rack up 10,000 posts like you have, and become adept at navigating this forum yet, like yourself. I'm sure you were new and just starting out once upon a time, and if you spent the money that I did and were experiencing what I am you would possibly Google the subject and try to figure something out while you were waiting to hear back from your service people. At least that is what I did and Google brought me to this forum.

As for sending it back to my dealer, considering how difficult it is to get your hands on these panels now that they are discontinued and the fact that I live in a very rural area in which I have no close dealer, this is not an option for me.

I was merely trying to find out if anyone else experienced this, and if so, how they handled it. My mission was to get some advice or guidance, not have someone scrutinize my post and keep an official count on how many threads I posted it to.

For the rest of the people that might actually care, I did finally speak to my not-very-local authorized Pioneer service provider, and they informed me that this condition is quite unusual on this model, that it is "one of the boards" but they don't know which one yet, as they are waiting for Pioneer tech support to call them back with details and information on how to tackle this issue. I was also told it would probably be late next week before they are able to come to start the service procedure.

I promise I will not attach this post on any other thread in this forum. I now know that the thread police are watching every move I make and I don't want to be in violation of "double posting" again!
post #3075 of 5267
Oh geeez, grow up. I did not in any way make my post towards you to be an insult. I guess you skipped over the and .

Since I have offended you so much, I'll refrain from telling you exactly what is wrong with your panel (I actually pulled up the Service Manual for your 141 and was about to send you a PM regarding your issue) and let you sit twiddle your thumbs as wait on that call from your "not so local" authorized repair shop so that they can tell you your 141 is need to take a trip to the doctor to get better.

My goodness, I don't want another " Excuuuuuuuuuse me!" post
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Originally Posted by 141Kuro9g4me View Post

You must have more time than I do on your hands to check how many threads I posted to. It took me all of about 2 seconds to cut and paste after another member suggested that I go to the 141 thread. That would be the 141 thread that I was totally unfamiliar with since this is my first time here.

I'm sorry that I haven't had the time to rack up 10,000 posts like you have, and become adept at navigating this forum yet, like yourself. I'm sure you were new and just starting out once upon a time, and if you spent the money that I did and were experiencing what I am you would possibly Google the subject and try to figure something out while you were waiting to hear back from your service people. At least that is what I did and Google brought me to this forum.

As for sending it back to my dealer, considering how difficult it is to get your hands on these panels now that they are discontinued and the fact that I live in a very rural area in which I have no close dealer, this is not an option for me.

I was merely trying to find out if anyone else experienced this, and if so, how they handled it. My mission was to get some advice or guidance, not have someone scrutinize my post and keep an official count on how many threads I posted it to.

For the rest of the people that might actually care, I did finally speak to my not-very-local authorized Pioneer service provider, and they informed me that this condition is quite unusual on this model, that it is "one of the boards" but they don't know which one yet, as they are waiting for Pioneer tech support to call them back with details and information on how to tackle this issue. I was also told it would probably be late next week before they are able to come to start the service procedure.

I promise I will not attach this post on any other thread in this forum. I now know that the thread police are watching every move I make and I don't want to be in violation of "double posting" again!
post #3076 of 5267
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Originally Posted by 141Kuro9g4me View Post

.....Has anybody experienced a slow response time in the service providers to get back with you?

I find it hard to accept that after purchasing a $7000 Signature Series Elite, supposedly the creme de la creme of Pioneer's plasma lineup with hand selected panels and electronics that the unit would break down after less than 2 days of viewing and I am sitting here with a very expensive TV that I can't watch........

sorry your having trouble with your new Pro141. But it's just a numbers game, and you just happened to get a bad number, even with supposedly hand picked/selected whatever panels and parts something is going to go wrong on a small percentage of them no matter what, they do not have 100% reliability. Pioneer will fix it under the 2 year warranty and it should be just fine.

Pioneer contracts with local service providers and sometimes you get a decent one and sometimes a lazy/bad one. I've been having a little difficulty dealing with a service center on a Mitsubishi dlp and it ain't easy but Mits is covering $450 in parts on a set that has been out of warranty since 2006 and i have my Pioneer plasma to watch anyway so that makes it a little easier to deal with them.

Hopefully the service provider can get the answers from Pioneer and the correct parts to get your new Pro141 up and running soon....also hope you didn't really pay $7k for it.
post #3077 of 5267
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Originally Posted by 141Kuro9g4me View Post

Last Friday I took delivery of my PRO-141FD and got the panel switched out and hung around 4:00 Saturday morning. I watched the TV until about 1:00 that afternoon, left to go out of town, came back around 1:15 Sunday morning, turned it on and watched it until about 4:00 a.m. when by body finally gave out. I got up around 10:00 and turned on the panel and watched it until about 9:00 p.m. when it kicked off. There was no warning, no degradation of picture or anything. The panel just kicked off very unexpectedly. I noticed the stutus indicator light flashing and it was flashing 9 times with a short pause. This time when I hit the on button I would get the blue led for about 1 second or less and then it would click back to red and flash 2 times between pauses. I tried off and on that night and the next day, only to find the same exact problem with the same trouble code.

I called the Pioneer service provider for my area and reported the issue yesterday morning. They indicated they had to check with Pioneer and they would get back with me later that afternoon. Here it is 3:00 in the afternoon and I have yet to hear anything back from the service provider.

Has anybody here experienced a problem like this, where the panel shut down and would not power back up? Has anybody here had any trouble codes with the 9 flashes or 2 flashes? Has anybody experienced a slow response time in the service providers to get back with you?

I find it hard to accept that after purchasing a $7000 Signature Series Elite, supposedly the creme de la creme of Pioneer's plasma lineup with hand selected panels and electronics that the unit would break down after less than 2 days of viewing and I am sitting here with a very expensive TV that I can't watch.

I welcome any thoughts, ideas, advice, input, or words of wisdom.

Thanks in advance!

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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

The specific issue with your panel requires and authorized dealer to open it up and replace parts. Since you got it 2 days ago, send it back to your dealer and get a new one. Its as easy as that

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Originally Posted by 141Kuro9g4me View Post

As for sending it back to my dealer, considering how difficult it is to get your hands on these panels now that they are discontinued and the fact that I live in a very rural area in which I have no close dealer, this is not an option for me.

I did finally speak to my not-very-local authorized Pioneer service provider, and they informed me that this condition is quite unusual on this model, that it is "one of the boards" but they don't know which one yet, as they are waiting for Pioneer tech support to call them back with details and information on how to tackle this issue. I was also told it would probably be late next week before they are able to come to start the service procedure.

The symptoms your described is the power supply shutting down. It is most likely a bad power supply board. In a few cases a defective x or y board can cause the power supply to shut down. It is a rare occurrence, but this has been my experience and I see a lot of Kuro panels so I know this issue.

At this time the Kuro that is most easily available is the 141 so with the panel being only 2 days old the dealer should replace it and should have or be able to get a replacement easily. If the dealer is distant and a replacement is not feasible an authorized service company can easily and quickly replace the defective board and get you as good as new so you will be satisfied in the end and it should take no more than a few days at most.

Issues like this are rare and you should not feel that these things should not happen to a $7k list price CE device and although in a idealistic perfect world that might be true, however in reality things like this do happen to flagship BMWs, other well respected TV manufacturers' flagship products and all other electronic and mechanical advanced technology devices.

D-Nice is correct and gave you the best advice, get your Elite replaced or repaired like new with a retro fit replacement board and enjoy the World's best display ever made.

-Robert
post #3078 of 5267
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

and I have a complete Mac / OS X development platform here too..

What is that ControlCAL Developer thinking anyways..?

Well, surely he is not thinking about releasing the I/P version... now is he???
post #3079 of 5267
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Originally Posted by stevec325 View Post

Well, surely he is not thinking about releasing the I/P version... now is he???

+1 I think that thing is a bigger secret than what's in Area 51.
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not improbable, inevitable
post #3081 of 5267
Greetings -

I have read the posts relating to getting the side masks from gray to black, but after much tinkering I cannot figure out how to do this.

Any help would be appreciated.
post #3082 of 5267
You need to use ControlCAL with a special profile allowing access to the service menu.
post #3083 of 5267
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Originally Posted by stevec325 View Post

You need to use ControlCAL with a special profile allowing access to the service menu.

Hmmm.....

I don't have that software, so I'll have to ask Gregg Loewen to tweak that when he comes back for my recalibration.

Thanks.
post #3084 of 5267
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Originally Posted by stevec325 View Post

You need to use ControlCAL with a special profile allowing access to the service menu.

That is for the 111/151. As far as I know, this is not available on the 101/141, we're stuck with the grey (or variable greys, see p.37 of manual, "lighten side masks").

For me, what I have done to watch 4:3 content is to set my 05FD to send a "full" 16:9 content with the Blu-ray player adding the side bars, which are black. My SC-07 also converts the signal from my analog OTA tuner to widescreen format and also add black sidebars. If/when I get a STB, I'll make sure that it can add black sidebars to 4:3 content....

Dan.
post #3085 of 5267
Let's drag up another "oldie but goodie"...

Has anyone, using FIOS, been able to get their 141 to send them email?

I have been going round & round on this for a while, with no success. I have tried all different kinds of things, including Turbe's suggestion of using Free SMTP Server. None of it works.

If anyone has been able to make this work - please let me know. Of, if you want to follow along with the saga of trying to figure out WTF Verizon is/is not doing with port 25 - check out this thread over on DSLReports.com: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r224...ort-25-Blocked

I don't know which is more stupid, Pioneer's horrible implementation of this feature, or Verizon's handling of port 25. Both suck - which one is fixable?!?!?!?!
post #3086 of 5267
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Originally Posted by stevec325 View Post

Let's drag up another "oldie but goodie"...

Has anyone, using FIOS, been able to get their 141 to send them email?

I have been going round & round on this for a while, with no success. I have tried all different kinds of things, including Turbe's suggestion of using Free SMTP Server. None of it works.

If anyone has been able to make this work - please let me know. Of, if you want to follow along with the saga of trying to figure out WTF Verizon is/is not doing with port 25 - check out this thread over on DSLReports.com: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r224...ort-25-Blocked

I don't know which is more stupid, Pioneer's horrible implementation of this feature, or Verizon's handling of port 25. Both suck - which one is fixable?!?!?!?!

I'll give you your solution (next Post)
post #3087 of 5267
Some 9G Monitor News / Updates

Well, after some time working with the Monitor's quirkiness (non ISFccc Interface), I'm please to announce the release of a new Display Profile Set for ControlCAL. This new Profile will allow you to quickly enter and copy settings across multiple Standard AV Selections and Multiple Input Signals.

In other Monitor News, below, you will find an easy way to get the Hours (and other Info) directly from the Web Interface (see info below 1st Pic) - No need to have your Monitor send you an email

Enjoy


EZ Hours:


Enter this in your Browser (Internet Explorer recommended)
http://Monitor_IP_Address/cgi/service_right.cgi .

*NEW* 9G Monitor Standard AV Selection Display Profile Set for ControlCAL
PRO-101FD | PRO-141FD | KRP-500M | KRP-600M (ALL REGIONS)

Near Release - Contact Me if you are interested in this New Display Profile Set





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post #3088 of 5267
Now I have to stay up for this

Don't tease me!!!

I've been spending weeks trying to get this to work.
post #3089 of 5267
The new profiles are cool

Seems like a ControlCAL version of what you can do in the web interface, yes? It's late and I haven't looked very close, but I assume that these are toggled with the AV Selection and write them out per input.

What's up with the web screen shot "E Z Hours"?
post #3090 of 5267
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Originally Posted by stevec325 View Post

The new profiles are cool

Seems like a ControlCAL version of what you can do in the web interface, yes? It's late and I haven't looked very close, but I assume that these are toggled with the AV Selection and write them out per input.

What's up with the web screen shot "E Z Hours"?

Look again, it's there
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