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post #4201 of 5242
11/10/09 at 12:05pm
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Yes there's a add-on that you can use with Controlcal to check hours, matter of fact with this tool you can even reset the hours on your 141. Ask Turbe for details. I have never use it so I don't know how well the add-on works.

ss

Thanks - will send turbe an email later this week. Or I guess I could just surf over to his Forums and at least try to find the info first...
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Originally Posted by jdbimmer View Post

If you hook it up to your network, you can use this:

Will also try this. I believe I have to plug the 141 into my network/wireless router, correct? I don't think I can just plug an ethernet cable directly from my ControlCal'd laptop into the 141?
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post #4202 of 5242
11/10/09 at 12:51pm
Ok, here's a seemingly stupid question about the 141 I haven't seen answered (or asked!). If you go to the hour meter "webpage" on a brand new, fresh out of the box 141, will the hour meter show zero hours? I ask because I am considering an open box 141, and want to see how many hours it was used. I understand the factory tests the panels for 50 hours or some such before shipping and am not sure if these 50 test hours actually show up on the unit.

I ASSUME the hour meter on a "fresh" 141 should be zero, but you know what happens when you assume anything.

Thanks!

-Rod
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post #4203 of 5242
11/10/09 at 12:59pm
sup guys ,

anyone use a cms on their 141? Id like to know your thoughts on a 141 calibrated without a cms compared to one calibrated with a cms.

Thanks,

Chris
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post #4204 of 5242
11/10/09 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by RodR View Post

Ok, here's a seemingly stupid question about the 141 I haven't seen answered (or asked!). If you go to the hour meter "webpage" on a brand new, fresh out of the box 141, will the hour meter show zero hours? I ask because I am considering an open box 141, and want to see how many hours it was used. I understand the factory tests the panels for 50 hours or some such before shipping and am not sure if these 50 test hours actually show up on the unit.

I ASSUME the hour meter on a "fresh" 141 should be zero, but you know what happens when you assume anything.

Thanks!

-Rod

Yes - a brand new 141 will show zero hours out of the box.
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post #4205 of 5242
11/10/09 at 3:06pm
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Originally Posted by Parrish View Post

Real cute smart ass-

Thank you.
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post #4206 of 5242
11/10/09 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by mak99 View Post

..Will also try this. I believe I have to plug the 141 into my network/wireless router, correct? I don't think I can just plug an ethernet cable directly from my ControlCal'd laptop into the 141?

You can connect directly, but it depends on the laptop's ethernet features (auto-mdx). The KuroReader FAQ (2nd post in my sig. thread link) has links to detailed instructions on direct connections as well as suggestions for adding wireless networking to the Pioneer.
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post #4207 of 5242
11/10/09 at 5:42pm
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Originally Posted by TheaterLover View Post

Remote Calibration: Folks, when I read about improvements to your PQs, I get extremely motivated to get my Pro-101 professionally calibrated. But I am (with my monitor of course), outside of North America, in South East Asia. Is remote calibration a possibility/meaningful?

No a remote Calibration will not help. Calibration of a panel needs a light meter of some kind to take readings directly from your display. So you need a on site ISF calibration.

ss
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post #4208 of 5242
11/10/09 at 6:01pm
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Originally Posted by baddgsx View Post

sup guys ,

anyone use a cms on their 141? Id like to know your thoughts on a 141 calibrated without a cms compared to one calibrated with a cms.

Thanks,

Chris

If your display needs CMS adjustment to maximize your PQ then yes It should be done. Using your CMS controls is something that should be performed after you set your gray-scale brightness and contrast, then once you have done any adjustments to your CMS then you should go back and tweak your gray-scale. After that then all you have left to do is set your color control, but as D-Nice has recommended only use small adjustment to your master color control and don't use your blue only mode to set color or tint ( tint should not be necessary if your CMS is set right). The reason for not using a large adjustment imo for your color control is because something like + 5 or higher could through your gray-scale off and your gamut.

ss
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post #4209 of 5242
11/11/09 at 3:58am
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

If your display needs CMS adjustment to maximize your PQ then yes It should be done. Using your CMS controls is something that should be performed after you set your gray-scale brightness and contrast, then once you have done any adjustments to your CMS then you should go back and tweak your gray-scale. After that then all you have left to do is set your color control, but as D-Nice has recommended only use small adjustment to your master color control and don't use your blue only mode to set color or tint ( tint should not be necessary if your CMS is set right). The reason for not using a large adjustment imo for your color control is because something like + 5 or higher could through your gray-scale off and your gamut.

ss

thanx SS
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post #4210 of 5242
11/11/09 at 2:34pm
Hi everyone, I just got a 141 Plasma and I’m having a hard time adjusting it, does anyone know someone in the area of Miami FL that can calibrate this TV, also does the TV needs to have setting hours before calibrating or can I just calibrating as is. Thank you
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post #4211 of 5242
11/11/09 at 2:39pm
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Originally Posted by rcruz2525 View Post

Hi everyone, I just got a 141 Plasma and I'm having a hard time adjusting it, does anyone know someone in the area of Miami FL that can calibrate this TV, also does the TV needs to have setting hours before calibrating or can I just calibrating as is. Thank you

I will be in Miami Thanksgiving weekend. PM me if you would like me to calibrate your set during that weekend.
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post #4212 of 5242
11/11/09 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by rcruz2525 View Post

Hi everyone, I just got a 141 Plasma and I’m having a hard time adjusting it, does anyone know someone in the area of Miami FL that can calibrate this TV, also does the TV needs to have setting hours before calibrating or can I just calibrating as is. Thank you

Your lucky, D-Nice is a very good ISF Calibrator.
Just try and put some hours on your 141 if you get D-Nice.

ss
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post #4213 of 5242
11/11/09 at 4:28pm
how many hours does it needs?
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post #4214 of 5242
11/11/09 at 9:09pm
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Originally Posted by rcruz2525 View Post

how many hours does it needs?

Ask D-Nice if you are going to have him what he thinks. 200 hours and up should be ok.

ss
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post #4215 of 5242
11/12/09 at 4:58am
I did, waiting for his responds, I think I will let D-Nice calibrate my TV, I also need to get me a Blue-Ray player... and by the way things look, I think between the calibration and the Blue Ray player I will be looking at about $1k dollars... Was not planning on it but I think I need to...
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post #4216 of 5242
11/12/09 at 5:55am
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Originally Posted by rcruz2525 View Post

how many hours does it needs?

150 hours
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post #4217 of 5242
11/12/09 at 7:32am
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Originally Posted by rcruz2525 View Post

I did, waiting for his responds, I think I will let D-Nice calibrate my TV, I also need to get me a Blue-Ray player... and by the way things look, I think between the calibration and the Blue Ray player I will be looking at about $1k dollars... Was not planning on it but I think I need to...

If you have a 141 then yes those to things are an absolute must!
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post #4218 of 5242
11/12/09 at 4:48pm
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Originally Posted by rcruz2525 View Post

I did, waiting for his responds, I think I will let D-Nice calibrate my TV, I also need to get me a Blue-Ray player... and by the way things look, I think between the calibration and the Blue Ray player I will be looking at about $1k dollars... Was not planning on it but I think I need to...

Smart move getting D-Nice. Now that you have made your choice of calibrators, talk to D-Nice and tell him what your setup and room is, what types of programs you view. Ask him for suggestions on a Blu Ray player that would be a good match for your 141 and sound system. Also if you view SD films then you will need a good Blu Ray player that does a good job at up-scaling.

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post #4219 of 5242
11/12/09 at 4:53pm
After a mind numbing reading through the first 65 pages of this thread, I couldn't wait any longer to post. I just picked up one of the last new 141's in the Austin area to haul down to Lake Amistad outside of Del Rio this weekend. I'll be mating it with an SC-25 and Oppo-83, old KEF 10412s (sides) and M&K 150s (front, rear and sub). Seems like most my equipment manufacturers have gone south so I might as well take my stuff down there too. I know Trube's sig line has all of his controlcal calibrators listed, but I didn't see any close to Del Rio. I'm about 200 miles west of San Antonio and 220 southwest of Austin. Any suggestions on who to do all the calibration work after the 150 hour run-in? ("Break-in" conjures up images that are too disturbing for my lexicon.) I'm going back to my thread reading and it's gonna take a while to catch up.

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post #4220 of 5242
11/12/09 at 5:15pm
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Originally Posted by Skiprox View Post

After a mind numbing reading through the first 65 pages of this thread, I couldn't wait any longer to post. I just picked up one of the last new 141's in the Austin area to haul down to Lake Amistad outside of Del Rio this weekend. I'll be mating it with an SC-25 and Oppo-83, old KEF 10412s (sides) and M&K 150s (front, rear and sub). Seems like most my equipment manufacturers have gone south so I might as well take my stuff down there too. I know Trube's sig line has all of his controlcal calibrators listed, but I didn't see any close to Del Rio. I'm about 200 miles west of San Antonio and 220 southwest of Austin. Any suggestions on who to do all the calibration work after the 150 hour run-in? ("Break-in" conjures up images that are too disturbing for my lexicon.) I'm going back to my thread reading and it's gonna take a while to catch up.

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Yes UMR and D-Nice, but last I heard was D-Nice doesn't travel much.

ss
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post #4221 of 5242
11/12/09 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by Skiprox View Post

After a mind numbing reading through the first 65 pages of this thread, I couldn't wait any longer to post. I just picked up one of the last new 141's in the Austin area to haul down to Lake Amistad outside of Del Rio this weekend. I'll be mating it with an SC-25 and Oppo-83, old KEF 10412s (sides) and M&K 150s (front, rear and sub). Seems like most my equipment manufacturers have gone south so I might as well take my stuff down there too. I know Trube's sig line has all of his controlcal calibrators listed, but I didn't see any close to Del Rio. I'm about 200 miles west of San Antonio and 220 southwest of Austin. Any suggestions on who to do all the calibration work after the 150 hour run-in? ("Break-in" conjures up images that are too disturbing for my lexicon.) I'm going back to my thread reading and it's gonna take a while to catch up.

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is 141 better than 151 in any respect?
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post #4222 of 5242
11/12/09 at 5:48pm
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

is 141 better than 151 in any respect?

web server
network functions
thinner
"hand picked parts"
Personally, I like the fact there is no tuner or amp for speakers.
Less power consumption
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post #4223 of 5242
11/12/09 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

is 141 better than 151 in any respect?

Why pay for a weak 18 watt amp and speakers (though they're probably one of the best on any TV) when you're going to run your audio through a much more powerful amp and speakers to get the full effects of this terrific display? I'd rather put the same $ in the listed advantages that the 141 offers. The 151 is great for somebody who is waiting to build their system, but it doesn't offer me anything other than a great display. If a 141 wasn't available, I probably would have gone the 151 route. As it turned out, locally in Austin, there were no 151s available from a b&m seller. I'm not going to trust an on-line reseller on a purchase as large and fragile as this.
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post #4224 of 5242
11/12/09 at 9:02pm
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Yes UMR and D-Nice, but last I heard was D-Nice doesn't travel much.

ss

Yeah, I looked at Jeff's tour booking and he's supposed to be in Texas next month, so I'll e-mail him to get in line. I suppose D-Nice only travels to Florida .

By the way, I shoulda thanked all of you guys who regularly post here in my first post. I can't say I understand all of it, but y'all put in a terrific effort to explain things so that newbies like me can get a better grasp of both the big picture and the minutia. Sometimes the latter makes my head spin around and my eyes glaze over, but I'm making progress thanks to your posts.

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post #4225 of 5242
11/12/09 at 9:41pm
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Originally Posted by Skiprox View Post

If a 141 wasn't available, I probably would have gone the 151 route.

+1

But to me the 141 offered more then the 151.
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post #4226 of 5242
11/12/09 at 9:55pm
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Originally Posted by vancouver View Post

web server
network functions
thinner
"hand picked parts"
Personally, I like the fact there is no tuner or amp for speakers.
Less power consumption

Thinner, yes! No extra guts!Rest......
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post #4227 of 5242
11/12/09 at 10:09pm
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

Thinner, yes! No extra guts!Rest......

Not sure I get what you mean.

I would consider the network abilities to be extra guts over the 151. In addition considering I have a perfect (no dead pixal or smearing display) i find the "hand picked parts" to be great!

Less pwoer consumption is good too. A tuner and amp is 100% usless to me.

Yup the 141 is better then the 151 for me.

Thinner is worth a lot IMO.
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post #4228 of 5242
11/12/09 at 11:08pm
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Yes UMR and D-Nice, but last I heard was D-Nice doesn't travel much.

Huh? D-Nice recently posted he would be in NY area during November, he told me he would be in DC area in early December, and I believe he recently replied to a poster in this thread that he could calibrate his 141 in Miami over Thanksgiving weekend. Seems to me that he travels alot, and travels far.
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post #4229 of 5242
11/13/09 at 12:00am
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Originally Posted by J-Hawk88 View Post

Huh? D-Nice recently posted he would be in NY area during November, he told me he would be in DC area in early December, and I believe he recently replied to a poster in this thread that he could calibrate his 141 in Miami over Thanksgiving weekend. Seems to me that he travels alot, and travels far.

He is based in the NY area. And as I said "as far as I know"
Things do change so if you are looking for a calibration then just ask D-Nice.

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post #4230 of 5242
11/13/09 at 3:56am
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Originally Posted by Skiprox View Post

Yeah, I looked at Jeff's tour booking and he's supposed to be in Texas next month, so I'll e-mail him to get in line. I suppose D-Nice only travels to Florida .

By the way, I shoulda thanked all of you guys who regularly post here in my first post. I can't say I understand all of it, but y'all put in a terrific effort to explain things so that newbies like me can get a better grasp of both the big picture and the minutia. Sometimes the latter makes my head spin around and my eyes glaze over, but I'm making progress thanks to your posts.

Skip

I do not travel to Del Rio.
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