Originally Posted by nulleffect
wow! those are some awesome pic's... hot damn
thanks so much for taking the time to setup the camera, take the photos, and posting them for everybody to enjoy... i know i appreciate it.
the more photos i see, the more i keep saying to myself "damn that tv looks awesome" ...and here i've been eyeballing the PN58A650... but i think i'd happily give up the extra 3" for better PQ and deeper blacks, etc
I'm a newbie here & have been lurking and reading these 950 (and 650) threads for several weeks (or is it months) now, trying to decide what I wanted to do with my first leap into HD. (I'm still muddling through life with a 10 year old 27" Sony CRT.) I've been "about to" jump into the HD arena about once every year or 2 for the last 7 years, since $4K would buy you a grainy grayish 50" LCD RP Sony. I was all ready to pull the trigger on a 650 when I read the press release on the 950. I've been patiently waiting to see one in-person since. I finally got to see one last week. For the first time in 6 or 7 years, I was stunned.
The reason I have finally posted, is because of nullefect's post about the 650 plasma. The 950 I saw was set up next to a 50a650 plasma, and it blew it out of the water like pro-ball vs. pee-wees. The two sets were split off of the same BD feed of Happy Feet (not my choice, but still a seemingly good test of display mettle) and the plasma looked like it had a dusty screen compared to the 950. Lower PQ, dimmer whites, grayer blacks, you name it. Only thing the plasma did better was avoid some slight blooming around the white letters during the credits. Having said that, I'll make these points - A: the blooming was never noticeable during live action (with a lot of white-on-black action (and no porno jokes here)) B: The less-than-black areas caused by blooming were just as black as the entire screen on the plasma C: I've never cared once in my life about black levels surrounding white letters during credits.
I'm sure the performance leap over the Samsung plasma is not a huge shocker to most, but on the other side of the 950 was a Pioneer Elite plasma. The difference was not quite as staggering vs the 650 plasma, but the 950 still blew it away, imho. Maybe not like pro-ball vs pee-wees, but I'll say major leagues vs. AA minors. I can see where some would try to chalk up the differences to general preference of plasma vs lcd, but I've come into this pretty open minded, and the 950 blew away the 2 plasmas. The Elite had some slightly better definition in some very black details (black horse hair, black suit jackets w/ wrinkles) but the deepest blacks on the Pio were gray compared to the 950. I don't believe either set was ISF calibrated, and I'm guessing if the brightness was increased on the 950, the detail might have been there too. Conversely, if the Pio brightness was dropped to the point that it's blacks were as black as the 950, some of the details may have been crushed. I'm speculating with these last statements, so take it fwiw.
I got to test drive the 950 for an hour or 2 with a friend-of-a-friend sales rep, and my only regret is that I didn't get to do the side-by-side test with an lcd 650 or 750. I'm still finding it hard to justify the nearly 2X price leap from one tech to the next, and I wish I had seen them side-by-side to ease my mind. Or ease my wallet. I'm going to be ordering a 650 or 950 tomorrow, and I don't know which one.
So my question is, who has seen the 650/750 run at full speed alongside the 950? I'm guessing the improvement is just as noticeable? Or is it?
And BTW, thanks to Pmpdesigns, and Djap, and anyone else who's been posting pics and opinions. Definitely helps soothe the shaky nerves of us AV addicts who can't get a fix of the new tech in person....