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post #31 of 511
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Originally Posted by TheKnobber View Post

If you can verify that it would be a pretty sweet improvement on price to not have to pay for the stand. But why would they sell it separate if its included? Unless, like I was saying they are deciding to bundle it with the unit if you buy it at MSRP.

Well, I have the set on order from Chris. If the stand is sold separately, I initially was going to build a frame, and attach the set to the frame, and attach the frame on top of my cabinet (wall mount does not work for me). However, investigating the potential design, I believe I will need a wall mount anyway, to attach to my frame. I think the wall mount will run $400 based on some research, as it needs to be pretty heavy duty, as not every large mount works for the 65" Panny. So I am almost resigned to getting the stand, 'cause for all my labor, if I'm only going to save $200...

Chris is investigating how the stand can be ordered for me if it does not come with the set (this has NOT been confirmed). The best news would be that I get the stand included , just like BB. I am not holding my breath.

This is all really confusing. I hope I don't have the unit arrive with no stand and no way of mounting it.
post #32 of 511
I ordered one from BB and it will be delivered tomorrow. I walked in there with no intention of getting it, just wanted to see if they had one on display, and they offered to match Chris's price. They also asked if I needed a stand or wall mount. I assumed it came with neither, but I will confirm this when it arrives tomorrow. Probably won't get it mounted till later on in the week but I will try to give you guys any info I can.

cjut,
I found this one that looks like it might work. No maneuverability but the price is right and it sets the tv only 1" off the wall.

http://www.mountsdirect.com/product_...roducts_id=893

The best buy guy said they had one for $280 but I turned him down at the time. I think he meant this one.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1117178041233
post #33 of 511
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Guess he did not bother to tell you that the plugs face towards the back of the set there for when you try to set the tv on the mount it will not seat right unless a person is going to cut a big hole in there wall allowing for the cables. (Not to mention the lower portion of this unit, unless changed from last year, has a hump on the lower portion of the unit. A tilt mount will have to be used unless a person uses spacers with the flat mount, long story hard to explain.)The tilt mount below will be the best choice. I used to like Sanus for the big screens until I ran into these below. The back plate is so large it is easy to grab three studs.

Peerless ST680P Tilt Mount <<>>



Peerless SF680P Flat mount <<>>





another note to keep in mind is the Sansus VMP3 mount he recommended will not work with out a adapter plate for this unit:

VMPL3 — Tilting Wall Mount
For MEDIUM to EXTRA-LARGE flat-panel TVs Additional items required for use with this TV: VMXA1 — Panasonic Adapter
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post #34 of 511
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

The mount below will be the best choice.


Thanks for the link. I had intended to wait till I get the tv to see how it's set up and figure out how to slap it on the wall. Kinda sorry the BB guy matched your price because I've learned a lot from reading your posts and had intended to purchase from you. But it is nice to have a local guy to deal with if there is something wrong with the set. I will certainly spread the word about your site and this forum. I AM looking for a extended warranty if you wanna shoot me a pm. Probably the CPS 3 yr. BB was a ripoff for that aspect of the purchase and didn't want to come off the price on their extended warranty.
post #35 of 511
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LOL, but did they give you mount advise at 11:54 P M eastern time Can't win them all
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post #36 of 511
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

LOL, but did they give you mount advise at 11:54 P M eastern time Can't win them all

Nope.....U da man!
post #37 of 511
Hi Chris, have we established that the base is a separate charge yet? I am awaiting this confirmation from you, as well as your price if it is a separate charge, as well as availability.

If it is, can you tell me if the Peerless SF680P can be used without any sort of adapter for the Panny? That one is still pretty cost effective depending on the cost of the base if I decide to build my own.

Thanks in advance.
post #38 of 511
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I know for fact there is no other pieces needed to make the Peerless ST680P work on the larger screens and that is why I like this mount so much.

As noted on BB web site there is a seperate part number so they will be a seperate charge for the base. No availablity as of yet, no street pricing as of yet.
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post #39 of 511
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Originally Posted by cjut01 View Post

Hi Chris, have we established that the base is a separate charge yet?

Thanks in advance.

Took delivery today and there is no base in the box.
post #40 of 511
Once again, a set on the market with no stand. I was considering this set in contrast to the 60" Kuro, but the Kuro comes with a stand and the Panny has no stand available.

As I mentioned, I went through this 3 years ago on a 65"..I was told no stand for several months.

Why does Panny do this?
post #41 of 511
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Originally Posted by NoVaT View Post

Took delivery today and there is no base in the box.

So... aren't you going to tell us your first impressions ?
post #42 of 511
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

I know for fact there is no other pieces needed to make the Peerless ST680P work on the larger screens and that is why I like this mount so much.

As noted on BB web site there is a seperate part number so they will be a seperate charge for the base. No availablity as of yet, no street pricing as of yet.

Looks like I will be ordering the Peerless... At least there is a good price difference between the Panny stand and the mount. PS - I agree, poor timing by Panny! What the heck are they thinking?
post #43 of 511
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Originally Posted by slimoli View Post

So... aren't you going to tell us your first impressions ?

Sorry, I'm still working on the install and haven't even put a signal to it yet. I had the delivery guys open it up, I powered it on, and they put the box back on it. If I was properly prepared I would have had the days off to do the work immediately. I hope to have the screen mounted by Wednesday.
post #44 of 511
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Originally Posted by NoVaT View Post

Sorry, I'm still working on the install and haven't even put a signal to it yet. I had the delivery guys open it up, I powered it on, and they put the box back on it. If I was properly prepared I would have had the days off to do the work immediately. I hope to have the screen mounted by Wednesday.

I'll also be looking forward to you opinion of this set. I am debating over the 58" or the 65".

I do have one question, does this set also have the possibility of the 24p issue that some people are speaking of in the 58" thread?
post #45 of 511
The stand looks like the same one for the 65p750. Has anybody checked to see if it will fit on the 850's?
post #46 of 511
Thread Starter 
That is the question of questions as there are plenty of the 65PZ750U stands around and they are cheap.
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post #47 of 511
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Originally Posted by NoVaT View Post

Sorry, I'm still working on the install and haven't even put a signal to it yet. I had the delivery guys open it up, I powered it on, and they put the box back on it. If I was properly prepared I would have had the days off to do the work immediately. I hope to have the screen mounted by Wednesday.

Come on! Let us know how that beast looks.
post #48 of 511
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Originally Posted by magillagorilla View Post

Come on! Let us know how that beast looks.

Its 7 inches bigger than the 58PZ800. LOL!

Chris
post #49 of 511
My TH-65PZ850U was just delivered. Purchased it from Chris, who was a pleasure to work with.

I already had the Peerless mount and will be wall mounting it. There is no base in the box and and the manual specifically says it is an option. The part number for the pedestal is TY-ST65R4-WG. I won't say the pedestal for the 750U won't work, but it is a different design (the older model apparently attached to the back of the set at the wall mounting connections--the new mount goes into smaller receptacles in the bottom of the set).

The set is, of course, huge. I already have a 60" Pioneer, but that is in a far larger room. This is a larger set in a smaller room and is overpowering (just what I wanted!).

Other than ensuring it works by going through the menus, I haven't fed a signal to it. It will take a few days at least to get it up and working.

There are a LOT of menus. Anyone have some suggested starting settings to use???
post #50 of 511
Hey 1KBrad, I'm glad you also have a 60" Pioneer and therefore can give us a good comparison between the two sets. Please don't take "few days", just hook up the beast and at least give us your first impressions.

Thanks

Sergio
post #51 of 511
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Originally Posted by 1KBrad View Post

My TH-65PZ850U was just delivered. Purchased it from Chris, who was a pleasure to work with.

I already had the Peerless mount and will be wall mounting it. There is no base in the box and and the manual specifically says it is an option. The part number for the pedestal is TY-ST65R4-WG. I won't say the pedestal for the 750U won't work, but it is a different design (the older model apparently attached to the back of the set at the wall mounting connections--the new mount goes into smaller receptacles in the bottom of the set).

Glad to here she is there

On a second note I agree that there is no way the old stand will work with this new information . I take that back, if the bolt holes are still the same the old stand may work.
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post #52 of 511
Hey Brad...I too have a 61" Pioneer the Pro 1410 HD and I'm contemplating between this Panny or a 60" Kuro. Looking forward to your review.
post #53 of 511
I googled that stand and came up with this link..http://shop.panasonic.co.uk/icat/plasma

Looks like a UK Panny site they claim the stand comes with the PZ800?
post #54 of 511
The manual that comes with the set is a combination manual (in English/Spanish/French) for the TH-58PZ850U and the TH-65PZ850U.

Reading the manual in a little more detail, the mount included with the 58" has the short legs that fit into the bottom of the display. The 65" version, however, has the long tubes that connect to the wall mount screw holes.

By appearance, the 750 and 850 65" displays use a pedestal of the same general appearance.

Adding to the confusion was the link above to the Best Buy web site for the pedestal (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1216424113321). That is NOT the appearance of the 65" mount. That is the appearance of the mount for the 58" display.

So can't determine at this time if the 750 65" pedestal will work or not with the 850.

The hole pattern for the wall mount screws is not included in the manual.

The overall size of the display is provided: 63"w x 39.1"h x 4.3"d. 160.3 pounds.

By my measurements, the screw holes are 42.5" apart wide by 15.75" apart high. Those measurements are very close.

Less accurate are my measurements that the bottom holes are 12.75" from the bottom of the display. The top holes are 10.5" from the top of the display. (I must be pretty close as my measurements come out to a display height of 39" versus the 39.1" quoted by Panasonic.)

I have the Peerless SF680 flat wall mount. The back of the display is mostly flat but has about a 1/2" raised portion near the connections. The raised portion does not interfere with the wall mount since the wall mount provides more depth protection than that. No spacers are needed, but you better hook-up all the cables you want before the display is put on the wall as it will be very difficult to do so once the display is up on the wall.
post #55 of 511
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Originally Posted by bkushner View Post

I googled that stand and came up with this link..http://shop.panasonic.co.uk/icat/plasma

Looks like a UK Panny site they claim the stand comes with the PZ800?

I found that site as well when I Googled the stand model number. Appears the 65" displays come with the pedestal in the U.K. but not in the U.S. Look at the price in the U.K. and they are more than paying for it.

It is certain the display does NOT come with the pedestal in the U.S.
post #56 of 511
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Originally Posted by 1KBrad View Post


The overall size of the display is provided: 63"w x 39.1"h x 4.3"d. 160.3 pounds.

By my measurements, the screw holes are 42.5" apart wide by 15.75" apart high. Those measurements are very close.

Less accurate are my measurements that the bottom holes are 12.75" from the bottom of the display. The top holes are 10.5" from the top of the display. (I must be pretty close as my measurements come out to a display height of 39" versus the 39.1" quoted by Panasonic.)

I have the Peerless SF680 flat wall mount. The back of the display is mostly flat but has about a 1/2" raised portion near the connections. The raised portion does not interfere with the wall mount since the wall mount provides more depth protection than that. No spacers are needed, but you better hook-up all the cables you want before the display is put on the wall as it will be very difficult to do so once the display is up on the wall.

Thanks for those measurements; I await the arrival of my display from Chris. I will be constructing a stand, using a frame with 3/4" cabinet grade plywood (with 2x4 framing and the appropriate angle brackets), painted black to sit on my stereo cabinet. I have no problem bolting it to the top of the cabinet for stability if need be. I will have the Peerless mount on the stand. I have the advantage of drilling/cutting some holes at the appropriate cable entry points on the back of the stand. The measurements will help me get started with the construction. The set will arrive before the stand is done, so I am dreaming up ways of being able to watch it. I think I have a Rube Goldberg setup that will work but I won't admit what it is until it does, then I'll take a couple of pics.
post #57 of 511
I've been working on getting the thing put up, but I couldn't wait anymore to take a look at something on it. I had an old DVD player lying around so I hooked it up with s-video. I put in the Planet Earth DVD and the picture was very impressive for the signal I was sending it. I can't wait till I can send it an HD signal. I also ran the break in DVD to check out the pixels and they all look good. I should have it mounted to the wall tomorrow and I will try to post some pics. Studio reference mode looked real nice. I threw in the Transformers DVD and the colors of the actors faces looked very natural, along with excellent detail in the darker areas on the screen. I have an older Samsung plasma upstairs and a Mitsubishi Diamond rear projection set. This set has none of the flaws I see in the older Samsung and seems clearer than the Mitsubishi RPTV. At this point no regrets.

The display is completely silent. There appear to be at least 4 fans along the top of the rear of the set. None were audible unless I put my ear within a few inches. The set does put off some heat. I think this will be less of an issue when I get it out of my dining room and out of the bottom of the box.

I did notice the screen is set into the bezel, unlike the smaller 850 I saw at BB. There is a layer of glass on the bezel as well but it is not one piece over the whole set like the other.

I went a different direction with the mount. Like I said I wasn't expecting to purchase the set and I was looking to get what I could quickly, that would work, and is as low profile as possible. I found an Omnimount ULPT-X that appears as if it will work. I measured the mounting holes and came up with similar measurements as 1KBrad. Those measurements appear to fit the mount. Hopefully it will do the trick and I'll have some pics tomorrow.
post #58 of 511
any pics?
post #59 of 511
Still stuck in the bottom part of the box. It's going to take a friend and an hour or so to get in on the wall.
post #60 of 511
My set is being delivered on Saturday. Could'a had it tomorrow but I can't be home, and they had no slots Friday either.
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