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post #181 of 2398
I just hooked up my brothers Panny bdp-35 and set it to bitstream dolby tru and dts master hd and the 6003 will matrix 7.1 sound with the bitstreaming of lossless audio as well.

A question though. When I switched from bitstream to pcm on the panny, I noticed the bitstreamed version had more bass and a little more dynamic surround (I did this with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, I am Legend and the Rush br concert disc and confrimed the lower bass with my ps3 via pcm vs the Panny's bitstream). A little too much surround on the Rush disc, but I was wondering why this is. I was always led to believe that lossless is lossless no matter how it gets to the receiver. Is the receiver processing the bitstream signal differently than the player would be processing the audio and sending it via pcm? Or does the receiver need to be set up differently when receiving either signal?
post #182 of 2398
I recieved my 5003 today and what I noticed is that in movies the sound just envelops you and its bring the audio to live instead of just TV with a big screen.

eimajnacnud - The difference is probably that when the audio is sent via pcm the receiver process the audio based on the calibration (multi eq), but when you bitstream it this series of marantz can't decode it and run the calibration modifications too. There isn't enough processing. The result is that the 2 should sound differently unless you go into direct or pure mode. (I think thats what they are called)

Adam
post #183 of 2398
I just got a SR6003 and my wharf 9.5 speakers.

Would like to ask if adding a PM5003 help in the sound?Would i hear a noticeable improvement?

Or any other brand would you guys recommend under this price range?Wouldnt mind stretching my budget abit more.
post #184 of 2398
I tried the SR6003 and the SR4003 (pre-amp out only as I have my own amp) and thought the sound quality of the SR4003 was noticeably better than the SR6003. Go figure.
post #185 of 2398
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Originally Posted by xericmx View Post

Hi Everyone. I need some help on selecting a new receiver. I'm looking at either the Marantz SR5003 or a simple NAD T744. Audio quality is my main concern right now, not features like HDMI and DSP. How would these two compare audio quality wise?

Thanks!

I tried the SR6003 and the SR4003 (pre-amp out only as I have my own amp) and thought the sound quality of the SR4003 was noticeably better than the SR6003. Go figure.
post #186 of 2398
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Originally Posted by atagert View Post

eimajnacnud - The difference is probably that when the audio is sent via pcm the receiver process the audio based on the calibration (multi eq), but when you bitstream it this series of marantz can't decode it and run the calibration modifications too. There isn't enough processing. The result is that the 2 should sound differently unless you go into direct or pure mode. (I think thats what they are called)

Adam

No it's not this as I have the multi-eq turned off as I felt Audyssey didn't help with anything. It's my guess that the Marantz processes the lossless audio better than the player does. I hope that Sony gives the ps3 the ability to bitstream as this could force me to get a standalone br player, which I really didn't want to.
post #187 of 2398
I guess, I didn't think there could be a difference with lossless decoders. Its not like a zip file comes out differently with winzip or winrar.

Adam
post #188 of 2398
I'm going to go out on a limb here and do some "assuming".....The PM5003 is an integrated rated @40wpc. For 100.00 more, you might want to opt for the Emotiva XPA-3, which is on sale. 200wpc X 3 and you can give your front 3 speakers a nice shot of adrenaline. I'm assuming that you are running your SR6003 in a surround system. I would guess that the extra juice might tighten up and strengthen your bass response in a very nice way. Another assumption is your SR6003 is not giving everything you were hoping for. 200wpc will give you more headroom for dynamic passages and allow the SR6003 amp to power the remaining 2 or 4 rear/side speakers more effectively. Assuming again that you have a small room, the SR6003 might be all you need......BTW, I have not owned any Emotiva product. I am going by online reviews and forum posts. There are quite a few people that love them. Also, one more thing, and you probably know this: Doubling power from 100wpc to 200wpc will not double your volume. It might add 10-15% to the volume of your current setup.

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Originally Posted by daz3 View Post

I just got a SR6003 and my wharf 9.5 speakers.

Would like to ask if adding a PM5003 help in the sound?Would i hear a noticeable improvement?

Or any other brand would you guys recommend under this price range?Wouldnt mind stretching my budget abit more.
post #189 of 2398
I'm looking at a SR5003 to go along with a new PT-3000, the new panasonic projector. I'm wondering if the SR5003 will automatically adjust lip synch through the HDMI 1.3a connection, or will I have to adjust something manually. This refers to if I try the frame interpolation modes on the receiver for movies, and then switch to the low-lag gaming mode on the projector. Will the receiver know and switch accordingly? Source in all cases will be a PS3. Question applies to any of these newer receivers I guess, I've been having a hard time trying to find an answer.

Thanks.
post #190 of 2398
Stang55 asked:

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Anyone found the SR8003 for purchase? A google search yields a few online retailers...but nothing more.

I was at Starpower Dallas for their HD Expo a few weeks ago and saw the Marantz rep for the Dallas region. He and I have spoken before, and he seemed to give me some straight answers. He also happens to be an audiophile.

I asked him when the SR-8003 would be available. He told me it was expected in March. He also told me it would have Audyssey XT, as well as some other new features when compared to the SR-8002 it is replacing.

I expect to see some announcements about it at Winter CES.


Steven
post #191 of 2398
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Originally Posted by scratch17 View Post

Stang55 asked:



I was at Starpower Dallas for their HD Expo a few weeks ago and saw the Marantz rep for the Dallas region. He and I have spoken before, and he seemed to give me some straight answers. He also happens to be an audiophile.

I asked him when the SR-8003 would be available. He told me it was expected in March. He also told me it would have Audyssey XT, as well as some other new features when compared to the SR-8002 it is replacing.

I expect to see some announcements about it at Winter CES.


Steven

This is good news. I've been putting off purchasing a new receiver, waiting to see the replacement for the SR-8002.
post #192 of 2398
Guys, what do you think of this upgrade.

I currently have an Onkyo 705, and am thinking of moving to the new 6003.

I currently run a Paradigm Studio setup, 20s upfront and CC-590, Atoms surround duty. (HSU STF-2 Sub)

I like the sound of my setup, but I recall when demo-ing the Studios, the dealer used Marantz electronics. Really enjoyed the sound.

HT sounds great, but it's the music performance is where I am looking for an upgrade.

Question, is it worth it to make this move? Or should I just wait a while and save up a bit for the AV8003/MM8003 combo? Does Marantz 6003 have a different sound than an Onkyo 705?

Thanks all.
post #193 of 2398
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Originally Posted by jwc13ac View Post

Guys, what do you think of this upgrade.

I currently have an Onkyo 705, and am thinking of moving to the new 6003.

I currently run a Paradigm Studio setup, 20s upfront and CC-590, Atoms surround duty. (HSU STF-2 Sub)

I like the sound of my setup, but I recall when demo-ing the Studios, the dealer used Marantz electronics. Really enjoyed the sound.

HT sounds great, but it's the music performance is where I am looking for an upgrade.

Question, is it worth it to make this move? Or should I just wait a while and save up a bit for the AV8003/MM8003 combo? Does Marantz 6003 have a different sound than an Onkyo 705?

Thanks all.

I think this would be a major upgrade. I know alot of people like Onkyo because they have a lot of features for the dollar, but I find they lag behind the other top tier receiver companies in fidelity. I moved from a Denon 3805 to the 6003 and was blown away. Musically there was no comparison as the 6003 brought my speakers to life, and I think this would be the same for your set-up. I can say the same for my HT set-up as well. The 6003 just has a really incredible dynamic sound.

As for saving up for the av/mm 8003 gear, I don't think with the speakers you are running you would need to go this far. If you had more power hungry speakers, something that needs a solid 4-6 ohm push, then I would suggest this set-up as the Marantz amp would be able to supply it. But as for right now, the 6003 will be more than adequate as it drives my speakers very nicely.

But if you are thinking of going to harder to drive speakers (such as myself, PSB Synchrony 2's and moving my Energy Reference 50's to the rear) then this would be a viable option. Or just adding a seperate 2-channel amp to drive the fronts might suffice as well (also an option I am exploring, but I REALLY like the mm8003).

And the other option to save money would be to pick up a 4/5/6003 and use it just as the pre-pro and add the mm8003 to this. This would save you quite a bit.

Hope this helps.
post #194 of 2398
I purchased a 6003 a couple of weeks ago and have noticed a particularly irritating problem when I watch blu-ray or other digital content on my PS3.

I seem to experience some sort of HDMI disruption (loss of video and audio) of some sort after I have been watching for approx 30mins (could be 34 or 35).

There is nothing worse than spend $$ on a new product and then having it flash several times in the middle of a movie you have been wanting to watch.



I replaced the hdmi cable between the 6003 and the ps3 and have done the reverse handshake thing that the Marantz tech support said to do, but the problem still persists.


Anyone else out there have a similar problem? Is my unit defective or are there some settings on the PS3 or 6003 that I have incorrect?


For what its worth it really sounds good when it is working.


Thanks

Bryan
post #195 of 2398
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Originally Posted by bpate View Post

I purchased a 6003 a couple of weeks ago and have noticed a particularly irritating problem when I watch blu-ray or other digital content on my PS3.

I seem to experience some sort of HDMI disruption (loss of video and audio) of some sort after I have been watching for approx 30mins (could be 34 or 35).

There is nothing worse than spend $$ on a new product and then having it flash several times in the middle of a movie you have been wanting to watch.



I replaced the hdmi cable between the 6003 and the ps3 and have done the reverse handshake thing that the Marantz tech support said to do, but the problem still persists.


Anyone else out there have a similar problem? Is my unit defective or are there some settings on the PS3 or 6003 that I have incorrect?


For what its worth it really sounds good when it is working.


Thanks

Bryan

Weird, I've had no issues like this. Take it back and exchange it. It might have been dropped or something during shipping or it could just be a bad one. This happened with some speakers I bought where one sounded almost blown but the other was fine. Took it back and all was well.
post #196 of 2398
bpate,
I would return the 6003 and get a new one.
post #197 of 2398
Has anybody else used DMP (Digital Media Player) in SR6003? I think it is a great bonus feature!

I noticed that if mp3 file has picture embedded into ID3v2 SR6003 cannot read and display artist name or title information. When I removed the picture SR6003 displays artist and title correctly. Can anybody verify or is it just my luck to get only SR6003 in existence with buggy firmware .

EDIT: Does anybody know how I can get SR6003 to display firmware version?
post #198 of 2398
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Originally Posted by eimajnacnud View Post

I think this would be a major upgrade. I know alot of people like Onkyo because they have a lot of features for the dollar, but I find they lag behind the other top tier receiver companies in fidelity. I moved from a Denon 3805 to the 6003 and was blown away. Musically there was no comparison as the 6003 brought my speakers to life, and I think this would be the same for your set-up. I can say the same for my HT set-up as well. The 6003 just has a really incredible dynamic sound.

As for saving up for the av/mm 8003 gear, I don't think with the speakers you are running you would need to go this far. If you had more power hungry speakers, something that needs a solid 4-6 ohm push, then I would suggest this set-up as the Marantz amp would be able to supply it. But as for right now, the 6003 will be more than adequate as it drives my speakers very nicely.

But if you are thinking of going to harder to drive speakers (such as myself, PSB Synchrony 2's and moving my Energy Reference 50's to the rear) then this would be a viable option. Or just adding a seperate 2-channel amp to drive the fronts might suffice as well (also an option I am exploring, but I REALLY like the mm8003).

And the other option to save money would be to pick up a 4/5/6003 and use it just as the pre-pro and add the mm8003 to this. This would save you quite a bit.

Hope this helps.


This is exactly what i was looking for. I enjoy the sound of my setup now, but I really just wanted a little improvment to get the most of this system. It seems the 6003 would do this, esp. on the music side.

I agree the AV8003/MM8003 is a but of an overkill right now. I can always tack on a amp down the road, or get into seperates later on.

Thanks again for some adivce, now if i can find a dealer to give me a good price....
post #199 of 2398
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Originally Posted by jwc13ac View Post

This is exactly what i was looking for. I enjoy the sound of my setup now, but I really just wanted a little improvment to get the most of this system. It seems the 6003 would do this, esp. on the music side.

I agree the AV8003/MM8003 is a but of an overkill right now. I can always tack on a amp down the road, or get into seperates later on.

Thanks again for some adivce, now if i can find a dealer to give me a good price....

I think it will be more than a little improvement for fidelity, and check big river...
post #200 of 2398
Hey 5003/6003 owners!
Seriously considering one of these. What's the heat output like when they are running? Not an Onkyo space heater I hope!
post #201 of 2398
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Originally Posted by mackiefan View Post

Hey 5003/6003 owners!
Seriously considering one of these. What's the heat output like when they are running? Not an Onkyo space heater I hope!

The 6003 doesn't run hot at all. Warm at best even when running at higher volumes.
post #202 of 2398
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Originally Posted by tarking View Post

Has anybody else used DMP (Digital Media Player) in SR6003? I think it is a great bonus feature!

I noticed that if mp3 file has picture embedded into ID3v2 SR6003 cannot read and display artist name or title information. When I removed the picture SR6003 displays artist and title correctly. Can anybody verify or is it just my luck to get only SR6003 in existence with buggy firmware .

EDIT: Does anybody know how I can get SR6003 to display firmware version?

Tested this some more and unfortunately SR6003 does the same thing with iTunes AAC mpeg4 tags: picture embedded = no artist or title information is displayed, no embedded picture = artist and title information is displayed.
post #203 of 2398
i thought the same thing until I saw a test on the Faroudja video processor used in most Denon AVRs. I was slack-jawed when I saw how bad they performed in upconversion, which you need for HD Cable/Sat.

Marantz uses this unknow i-Chip processor....no idea if it's any good.
post #204 of 2398
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Originally Posted by eimajnacnud View Post

The 6003 doesn't run hot at all. Warm at best even when running at higher volumes.

Cool! Really!
post #205 of 2398
Hi guys looking for a little help here.
I have the SR6003 hooked up to a 6.1 system. Normally I get the back surround to work fine but I was playing some COD4 on my PS3 today and noticed that it was not working even though it was streaming 7.1 channel audio. any ideas on why this could be happening?
It seems to work flawlessly with everything else.

Thanks in advance
post #206 of 2398
I've had the 6003 for about 3 weeks now and figured I'd bring up some initial thoughts. It was replacing a Denon 3300 that was about 9 years old. Comparing build quality, the Marantz is sub-par with respect to the Denon, only incorporating a central aluminum faceplate flanked by plastic curved panels that while making it attractive, is cheap in my book for a piece of gear about 1K or more. The AV8003 and MM8003 also look to sport the similar plastic (unbelievable). The large knobs on the receiver are relatively solid but more difficult to turn than the Denon, and with no good click for easily selecting the inputs - I liked the Denon better here also. The shallower chassis is definitely a plus, particularly with the increased bevvy of wires in this installation. The unit runs warm at best even with increased volume periods - a definite plus compared to the Denon. I'm running a 5.1 system with the fronts bi-amped. Overall, the unit delivers plenty of power to create a more dynamic but subdued soundstage with less sibilance at high frequencies compared to the Denon and much warmer mid and low end - actually needed to turn the sub down more than with the Denon. I'm using the front pre-outs fed into a Paradigm cross-over subwoofer control unit and then fed into the main ins of the Marantz to get 50Hz crossover for the front mains. This was a must-have feature for me - a full complement of pre-outs - not found on many receivers nowadays believe it or not. The remote is very nicely backlit with the press of a button on the right with the thumb, will stay on for 2 seconds if pressed once, or will light continuously with the button held down - a nice feature in the dark for sure. The input selection for the receiver/amp is a bit inintuitive having to be pressed twice, but I just think of it as a 'double-click' and essentially the ergonomics of the remote are just fine. The macro feature is nice but for some reason does not power up my Mits TV even though the remote will do this when not in macro. The USB feature I cannot get to work with an i-POD, which is pretty ridiculous - the i-POD just continues to say "Do not Disconnect". If anyone has experience getting an i-POD to work thru this USB please let me know. For now, I can run it from the front RCA ins. The other issue I have had is minor but I'm guessing related to the unit since I don't recall the issue before - some commercials on HD stations (it seems from some manufacturers as well like Apple) come across distorted and greyed (almost inverted looking). I have a Motorola cable box sending HD via component into the receiver and component out to the TV (an older WS-65905 with no HDMI). Anyone with this similar scenario? Actual programming is unaffected. Just some commercials.

I'd like to be able to get the benefits of the HDMI of the receiver with video upconversion, but there are some snags. The Mits will not adjust aspect ratio for the DVD input if progressive, or the HD input at 1080i. I looked up the HDFury2 that many people like, but don't know if this is worth buying since it seems like SDTV upconverted in the receiver and fed to the TV will only come out as an upconverted square with no aspect ratio control - burn-in issues and no picture filling the screen (apologize if going video here). The only benefits will be with DVD and gaming (already widescreen) I'm guessing. Any suggestions/experience with this?

Appreciate this forum.....
post #207 of 2398
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Originally Posted by AVRS View Post

The USB feature I cannot get to work with an i-POD, which is pretty ridiculous - the i-POD just continues to say "Do not Disconnect". If anyone has experience getting an i-POD to work thru this USB please let me know.

that usb is not for the I-pod and will not work with it. It is used for a thumb drive or a external hard drive. If you want to use an i-pod other than the way you are you have to buy the accessory that will connect to the AVR and has a docking station.
post #208 of 2398
sr5003 or onkyo 805/6? auction for 5003 @ 599 is ending soon! LMK! Thanx...
post #209 of 2398
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Originally Posted by Bigalsworth View Post

that usb is not for the I-pod and will not work with it. It is used for a thumb drive or a external hard drive. If you want to use an i-pod other than the way you are you have to buy the accessory that will connect to the AVR and has a docking station.

Or a better way to put this would be to RTFM
post #210 of 2398
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Originally Posted by Bigalsworth View Post

Hi guys looking for a little help here.
I have the SR6003 hooked up to a 6.1 system. Normally I get the back surround to work fine but I was playing some COD4 on my PS3 today and noticed that it was not working even though it was streaming 7.1 channel audio. any ideas on why this could be happening?
It seems to work flawlessly with everything else.

Thanks in advance

I just checked this out and I found that the game does not output 7.1 until you are in the game, everything else was 5.1, even the loading sequence prior to playing. After that it was glorious mayhem and destruction in 7.1.

Hope this helps.
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