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post #1231 of 1254
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Originally Posted by brecker View Post

What's the going rate for a mint Seismic12? I have one I've been debating to sell to go up a bit.

I found one in Edmonton, Canada for $800 Can. and it was only 2 months old, supposedly mint.
post #1232 of 1254
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Originally Posted by brecker View Post

What's the going rate for a mint Seismic12? I have one I've been debating to sell to go up a bit.

$900-$1200 depending on the condition and the terms. Check Audiogon, there are two listed at this time.

J.
post #1233 of 1254
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Originally Posted by karsty View Post

Hey everyone. I've read through this entire thread and I've learned some things and had a few laughs along the way. This is my first post here, and I'm somewhat new to the stereo/speaker/HT game. I have recently read a ton of reviews and forum threads on the V5 Studio 60's and 100's along with various receivers to match them. I was hoping I could get some help from you guys.

My local dealer is going to give me a very attractive discount on the Studio series speakers, and he said that he always recommends I get the best speaker that I can afford because I'll have them until I'm 50(I'm 25 now). I agree with him, and I only like to spend my money once so to speak, so I'd like to step up and get the V5 100's instead of the 60's. If I can afford it I'll get the CC-690(dealer recommends the biggest center channel as well), the ADP-590's, and the Sub 12.

The problem is, my local dealer doesnt have the Studio series in stock so I can't listen to them. He only has the Monitor series which are sound nice, but I want something that sounds and looks better. I would have to drive 3 hrs one way to go to another Paradigm dealer in order to listen to them. I know that all of you are going to recommend that I make the drive because it's a small price to pay when considering spending so much on speakers. I guess I'm trying to avoid the drive and buy them based on the rave reviews the Studio series gets and from what everyone on here is saying. Probably a stupid move though hey?

On to to the subject of receivers. Being that it has been recommened that I get as much speaker as I can afford, I won't be able to spend as much on the receiver. That's not to say I won't be getting a decent one though, just that I won't be able to get a top notch receiver if that makes any sense. I'm currently looking at the Onkyo 876 because it's last years model and has a lot of the features and power I'm looking for. I can also get a decent deal on it($1300 instead of $1900 regular). I know that seems high, but I also live in Canada and that's just how it is. My local Paradigm dealer sells the Pioneer Elite line and obviously he is suggesting I purchase one of these instead. He said maybe the VSX-21, but I don't think it's as good as the Onkyo 876. I'm thinking I would have to step up into the SC-25/27 territory to be comparible to the Onk. Problem is, is the SC-25 would probably cost me $1700 and that's just a guess without getting a quote from the dealer. Just wondering if you guys could recommend a solid receiver for the Studio 100's. I want what's going to sound the best with these speakers and have the ability to drive them well.

I listen to about 40% music/30% tv/30% HT.

Thanks so much for your help and suggestions everyone.

I know I'm going to be addicted to this stuff fast!

I'm in the same situation as you. I have the sc 07 with the studio 20's, cc590,adp 390,atom monitors and sub 15. I would like to go up to the 60's or 100's but not sure if the sc 07 will power them well. Has anyone used the sc 07 or sc 27 with 100 v5 or 60 v5?
post #1234 of 1254
Hi,

I am a happy owner of the new pair of Studio 10 v5 speakers. Well, not 100% happy yet as 1) still waiting for the amp so can't try them out in my room yet; 2) dust cup on one of the speakers is glued a little off (quality control, hello?). Now, does the dust cup affect the sound at all or not? Talked to the dealer, he said that's fine and sound won't be affected at all... Is it true?
post #1235 of 1254
Hey everyone. I have looked everywhere for actual reviews of the Studio 20 v5s. I've been seeing pretty good deals on older v3 and v4's and don't know how they compare to the new v5s. Based on specs provided by Paradigm, it appears v4 and v5s are the same except for the new curved design.

If someone could send me a link or personal experience. I have heard the v5's and while I really liked them, don't have the money to fork up for the new ones and was looking at previous versions, but didn't know how they stack up.
post #1236 of 1254
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Originally Posted by Klietz View Post

Hey everyone. I have looked everywhere for actual reviews of the Studio 20 v5s. I've been seeing pretty good deals on older v3 and v4's and don't know how they compare to the new v5s. Based on specs provided by Paradigm, it appears v4 and v5s are the same except for the new curved design.

If someone could send me a link or personal experience. I have heard the v5's and while I really liked them, don't have the money to fork up for the new ones and was looking at previous versions, but didn't know how they stack up.

I don't know about the 20's, but check this out. I'd expect similar levels of comparisons with the 20s: http://www.stereophile.com/floorloud...5_loudspeaker/
post #1237 of 1254
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Originally Posted by schalliol View Post

I don't know about the 20's, but check this out. I'd expect similar levels of comparisons with the 20s: http://www.stereophile.com/floorloud...5_loudspeaker/

good find
post #1238 of 1254
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Originally Posted by Klietz View Post

Hey everyone. I have looked everywhere for actual reviews of the Studio 20 v5s. I've been seeing pretty good deals on older v3 and v4's and don't know how they compare to the new v5s. Based on specs provided by Paradigm, it appears v4 and v5s are the same except for the new curved design.

If someone could send me a link or personal experience. I have heard the v5's and while I really liked them, don't have the money to fork up for the new ones and was looking at previous versions, but didn't know how they stack up.

I haven't heard the 20v5 only the 10's, they sound good. I have the 20v4's and love them. My system is 100v5, 690v5, 20v4, adp590v4 and sub 12. You can't go wrong with the 20's they are an excellent speaker.
post #1239 of 1254
Thanks everyone for helping me out with this. The review was very helpful. Yeah, I am happy that I stumbled across the Paradigm line and have a feeling will they will get a few of my paychecks in the coming years.

I don't think I will go wrong with either.
post #1240 of 1254
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Originally Posted by weird 23 View Post

I'm in the same situation as you. I have the sc 07 with the studio 20's, cc590,adp 390,atom monitors and sub 15. I would like to go up to the 60's or 100's but not sure if the sc 07 will power them well. Has anyone used the sc 07 or sc 27 with 100 v5 or 60 v5?

I have an SC-25 pushing v5 60's and cc-690, the SC-25 replaced an Onkyo 806, the difference was quite noticeable. In my room I listen at -20 under reference and the SC-25 performs like a champ. Unless you going to play them insanely loud, any of the SC or a high end Onkyo will be more than up to the task.
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Does anyone know if the cherry wood finish of the studio V5 line is anywhere close to the fake-wood cherry finish of the older v4 line? I have the v4 studio 100's now, with the cc-690 center and the servo-15 sub all in the front and I want to add some width speakers that match them sonically and visually. So I am going to stick with the Paradigm studio family, and will probably get the 20's on stands or the 60's floorstanding. But it's hard to tell with online pictures how well the color matches. The new v5's look darker, and obviously have the curved back. My dealer doesn't have them in stock for me to compare. Anyone else seen them side by side?
post #1242 of 1254
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Originally Posted by PeterEBM View Post

Does anyone know if the cherry wood finish of the studio V5 line is anywhere close to the fake-wood cherry finish of the older v4 line? I have the v4 studio 100's now, with the cc-690 center and the servo-15 sub all in the front and I want to add some width speakers that match them sonically and visually. So I am going to stick with the Paradigm studio family, and will probably get the 20's on stands or the 60's floorstanding. But it's hard to tell with online pictures how well the color matches. The new v5's look darker, and obviously have the curved back. My dealer doesn't have them in stock for me to compare. Anyone else seen them side by side?

He may not have any v.5 cherry's in stock, but he should have finish samples with 2" x 2" squares of the black ash, rosenut and cherry veneers. If he doesn't, he should be able to get one from his dealer rep.
post #1243 of 1254
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Originally Posted by PeterEBM View Post

Does anyone know if the cherry wood finish of the studio V5 line is anywhere close to the fake-wood cherry finish of the older v4 line? I have the v4 studio 100's now, with the cc-690 center and the servo-15 sub all in the front and I want to add some width speakers that match them sonically and visually. So I am going to stick with the Paradigm studio family, and will probably get the 20's on stands or the 60's floorstanding. But it's hard to tell with online pictures how well the color matches. The new v5's look darker, and obviously have the curved back. My dealer doesn't have them in stock for me to compare. Anyone else seen them side by side?

The v5's with real wood I would say are definetely darker in color.
http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....m-Studio-20-v5
These pictures do a pretty good job of showing them in real life. If your looking to match colors.. I'd stick with the v4 (or even the v3's).
post #1244 of 1254
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Originally Posted by BTT917 View Post

He may not have any v.5 cherry's in stock, but he should have finish samples with 2" x 2" squares of the black ash, rosenut and cherry veneers. If he doesn't, he should be able to get one from his dealer rep.

Good thinking, I'll ask him. Cheers.
post #1245 of 1254
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Originally Posted by Klietz View Post

The v5's with real wood I would say are definetely darker in color.
http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....m-Studio-20-v5
These pictures do a pretty good job of showing them in real life. If your looking to match colors.. I'd stick with the v4 (or even the v3's).

Thanks for the link... yes, they definitely look darker. I did ask my dealer about getting the older v4's and I have done some web searches looking myself, but I couldn't find any as they were phased out so long ago. So I'd have to buy used. I could always do that of course, but I'd prefer new. If the v5's color looks ok several feet wide of the fronts, I'd prefer to go with that setup. It's all a matter of WAF really
post #1246 of 1254
Well, I bought the studio 60's and now have them set up as wides either side of my 100's and am enjoying DSX in all its glory! And yes they sure are a LOT darker, but don't look too bad in the same room because at least the trim matches. They sound amazing though, and when I'm sitting in the sweet spot, all I see are the grills anyway. But if anyone wants to make me an offer on my 100's, I may accept and then go straight out and buy the 100's again in the v5's to match my new 60's :-)
post #1247 of 1254
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Originally Posted by PeterEBM View Post

But if anyone wants to make me an offer on my 100's, I may accept and then go straight out and buy the 100's again in the v5's to match my new 60's :-)

now were talking, any pics of the new setup?
post #1248 of 1254
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Originally Posted by osofast240sx View Post

now were talking, any pics of the new setup?

Here you go... sorry the quality of the photos is not up to much, my flash isn't that great. We are also in the middle of remodelling (doing it myself so it is taking ages) so the entertainment center is unfinished and the floor tiles are half ripped up because I am putting wood flooring down. What a mess!
Anyway, this is just the front, with the sub hiding beside the small sofa in the front left corner, and you can't see them but I have 4 Paradigm adp-590 dipoles in the back. I am running 9.1 now, with the extra 4 channels being the SB and FW and using Audyssey DSX processing.
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post #1249 of 1254
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Originally Posted by PeterEBM View Post

Here you go... sorry the quality of the photos is not up to much, my flash isn't that great. We are also in the middle of remodelling (doing it myself so it is taking ages) so the entertainment center is unfinished and the floor tiles are half ripped up because I am putting wood flooring down. What a mess!
Anyway, this is just the front, with the sub hiding beside the small sofa in the front left corner, and you can't see them but I have 4 Paradigm adp-590 dipoles in the back. I am running 9.1 now, with the extra 4 channels being the SB and FW and using Audyssey DSX processing.

nice setup
post #1250 of 1254
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Originally Posted by osofast240sx View Post

nice setup

Thanks, but not quite the same as a dedicated HT room like yours. That looks awesome! Maybe my next house :-)
post #1251 of 1254
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Originally Posted by PeterEBM View Post

Thanks, but not quite the same as a dedicated HT room like yours. That looks awesome! Maybe my next house :-)

thanks. dedicated HT are overrated, I thought I would use it more. allthough i am happy i have one, but i could live with out it if i ever move to another house.
post #1252 of 1254
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Originally Posted by osofast240sx View Post

thanks. dedicated HT are overrated, I thought I would use it more. allthough i am happy i have one, but i could live with out it if i ever move to another house.

Interesting. Since my setup is in the main family room and my display is just a 52" LCD flat panel, we get to use it every day as the main TV and for movie watching... which we do at least 2-3 times a week. Luckily, so many shows are in 5.1 these days that the experience for regular TV is that much more enjoyable (than it ever used to be) when you have a reasonable sound system.

Anyway, enjoy your HT as often as you can. I'm still jealous!
post #1253 of 1254
OK first off, great thread!

I am new here, so help would be great.

I have a small room so I need to use in wall speakers for my rear & side speakers in my current theater build. But I want floor standing speakers for up front behind my screen.

I have the room almost completed and I bought the amps (emotive XPA-5 5x200watts and XPA-2 2x 300watts)

Now I want to buy the speakers and I am looking for opinions.

Idea #1:

right/center/left 3x studio 60 (do they sell individual speakers?)
rears SA-35 (in-wall)
sides SA-VDP (in-wall)

Idea #2:

right/left 2x studio 100 (is 300watts enough for them?)
center CC-590
rears SA-35 (in wall)
sides SA-ADP (in wall)

As for sub, I haven't looked into that yet.

Can I mix and match these? Which idea is best?

I am fond of the first idea.

P.S. I am from Alberta Canada if anyone wants to sell speakers or knows of any deals.

Cheers,
Terry
post #1254 of 1254
Hi Terry,

This is a really old thread, so not sure many people will even notice your post. Luckily AVS notified me because I posted the last one.

Anyway, you may have already bought your speakers by now so this may be redundant. But for what it's worth...

I don't have any experience with in-wall speakers, but I can assume the ones you are talking about are front firing. For the surround back and sides, it is much better to use dipoles if you have the room. I use the Paradigm adp-590's for that very reason and the four of those in the back are just incredible. The surround soundstage behind and to the sides is just superb. And since you mount these on the walls anyway, they would not take up much more space than the in-walls would.

For the fronts, the Studio 60's and 100's excellent speakers (I have both, for front main and front wide), and yes you can buy them all separately, but I would not recommend using another 60 for the center channel. That speaker is not meant for side lying and the accoustics would be off. You are much better going with a properly designed center channel speaker. I have the Paradigm cc-690 (you can see it in my pictures a few posts back, sitting on the shelf above the monitor) and it is very powerful and provides the perfect match for the rest of my setup and delivers a superb center soundstage and excellent dialog.

I also run a Paradigm Servo-15 sub which is 1,500 watts continuous and 4,500 watts peak, so it is more than powerful enough for me and provides incredible bass response down to 12 hz. But now Paradigm has a better one (the signature sub 25) that comes with the PBK (perfect bass kit) which allows for perfect setup using the supplied mic and some software you install on your PC. After listening to the test signals, the PC generates the correct settings and you upload those directly to the sub to configure it. It's a great idea and is a bit like the Audyssey setup in most AVR's these days. I used Audyssey to configure all my speakers of course and it did a great job.

Anyway, I hope you end up with the best setup that works for your budget and your room... and when it's all done, you can sit down in that sweet spot and enjoy every moment of it.

Good luck!
Peter.
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