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post #871 of 1358
10/27/08 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by ErikPMR View Post

I'm thinking hard about switching from my JVC RS-1 to the Panny 3000u. What I hate about my RS-1 is the motion blur. I had a DLP (Benq 8700) prior to this and switching to th LCOS/DLA system I am bothered every time I watch the projector by the "blur" of the image when things are moving across the screen. It's like I have trouble focusing on the image unless it is completely still. I'm hoping the Panny with the frame creator eliminates this blur problem. I'd be curious to know if other people are bothered by motion blur with the RS-1. (I've seen a few people mention it only.)

That's interesting. I see some motion blur from my 720p DLP Sharp 10K and so I was looking at the Sony HW-10 (SXRD). I heard the SXRD is basically Sony's version of LCOS. I thought LCOS was suppose to have a much smoother panning?
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post #872 of 1358
10/27/08 at 9:01pm
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Originally Posted by wnielsenbb View Post

The Silverstar makes a HUGE difference. Even the wife was impressed. Yeah, I turn the projector to lower lumen mode at night. They claim 6 gain, but I am guessing realistically it is like 3. The older SS screens had hotspotting problems. The new one are awesome. The only complaint is on really bright scenes, like sun or snow shots, you can see a shimmer on the screen. It was totally worth it though. I have it in my totally pitch black HT room now. I set it up with my Panny AE-2000u and it defaulted to normal mode and durn near blinded me. Good stuff.
Warren.

I've had my Silverstar for almost 6 years, no hotspotting problem here. As you said you can get some shimmering from really bright scenes but that is out weighed by the extra punch you get. I have a light controlled room with a little ambient light from the back of the screen and with my Sharp 10K in high contrast and economy mode I have plenty left.

Have you ever tried to take a picture of it from straight on? I have when taking pictures of my theater. The flash doesn't go off because it must be sensing the reflection from the screen (even in low light conditions)
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post #873 of 1358
10/27/08 at 9:31pm
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Originally Posted by RapalloAV View Post

What Im saying here is dont think your image will perfectly fit your 2.35 masking like it always does on a 16x9 screen. It just cant without a number of small adjustments, I dont think the rate will be as good as 99% either, it might be close 80% of the time. Mostly small manual adjustments will still be neccesary if your a perfectionist whos into presentation.

I agree that it probably won't be 100% most of the time, but just a couple of points. First, if the room is dark enough then very small bars can be hard to see. So, maybe some people should get something like a 2.30:1 screen and just have tiny bars. Second, I believe I read that people could save 3 lens memories. If that is the case then one option would be to have one for 16:9 material and 2 for 2.35:1 material with different digital shift amounts to get pretty close with most 2.35:1 material just by selecting the appropriate one. Although that wouldn't leave one to automatically zoom a little for 1.85:1 material.

--Darin
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post #874 of 1358
10/27/08 at 9:43pm
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Originally Posted by darinp2 View Post

I agree that it probably won't be 100% most of the time, but just a couple of points. First, if the room is dark enough then very small bars can be hard to see. So, maybe some people should get something like a 2.30:1 screen and just have tiny bars. Second, I believe I read that people could save 3 lens memories. If that is the case then one option would be to have one for 16:9 material and 2 for 2.35:1 material with different digital shift amounts to get pretty close with most 2.35:1 material just by selecting the appropriate one. Although that wouldn't leave one to automatically zoom a little for 1.85:1 material.

--Darin

Of course saving two 2.35 sizes will help, but there will be many many more than two you would need to save to have it fit a 2.35 image to fit all sides of the masking perfectly.

Some films will spill over the top masks, some will spill over the bottom mask, some will spill over both masks and some will be smaller than both top and bottom masking. The ones that are smaller will definatly look better than ones that spill over one mask, thats the one that would probably need to be corrected to not be distracting.
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post #875 of 1358
10/27/08 at 11:54pm
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Originally Posted by wnielsenbb View Post

The Silverstar makes a HUGE difference. Even the wife was impressed. Yeah, I turn the projector to lower lumen mode at night. They claim 6 gain, but I am guessing realistically it is like 3. The older SS screens had hotspotting problems. The new one are awesome. The only complaint is on really bright scenes, like sun or snow shots, you can see a shimmer on the screen. It was totally worth it though. I have it in my totally pitch black HT room now. I set it up with my Panny AE-2000u and it defaulted to normal mode and durn near blinded me. Good stuff.
Warren.

That sounds great, thanks for the info, I'll have to check them out.
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post #876 of 1358
10/28/08 at 1:28am
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Originally Posted by AWBoy View Post

Visual Apex encountered a problem with their shipment. No ETA for them other than "soon".

Dammit

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Originally Posted by Darth Indy View Post

Heres new info I just got from my rep at PP:
We should receive an additional 60 units by Wednesday and 200 more units by Friday the 31st. So IF everything goes as planned and IF we get the units early enough on Friday to get them received and ready to ship on Friday

I made a mistake preordering from visualapex. I guess they do not have the same buying power like PP. For the future new projector buyers in similar early situation I recommend PP. visualapex is one week behind PP
their email:
"You were previously notified that we expected to begin shipping the Panasonic PT-AE3000U Projector to you today. (Monday, October 27) Unfortunately we were informed this morning that there was a delay at the Panasonic Factory in Japan and we have not received our stock yet. We will be receiving stock later this week, and will begin shipping as soon as possible. We apologize for the delay with your order, tracking information should be available to you by the end of the week."
PP gets 60 shipment Monday, 60 Wednesday and 200 by Friday but visualapex only "end of the week." Very frustrating.
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post #877 of 1358
10/28/08 at 4:49am
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Originally Posted by RapalloAV View Post

Yes correct I never said anything was wrong with the system it just wont be 100% perfect. As I said earlier, I told another manufacturer to add this memory function to their projectors more than 12mths ago as it is a very good idea.

What Im saying here is dont think your image will perfectly fit your 2.35 masking like it always does on a 16x9 screen. It just cant without a number of small adjustments, I dont think the rate will be as good as 99% either, it might be close 80% of the time. Mostly small manual adjustments will still be neccesary if your a perfectionist whos into presentation.

Isn't there also the issue that so many movies are not exactly 2.35? I.e., one sees all sorts of ratios: 2.40, 2.20, 2.37, and of course 1.85.
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post #878 of 1358
10/28/08 at 5:05am
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Originally Posted by DrA View Post

I made a mistake preordering from visualapex. I guess they do not have the same buying power like PP. For the future new projector buyers in similar early situation I recommend PP. visualapex is one week behind PP
their email:
"You were previously notified that we expected to begin shipping the Panasonic PT-AE3000U Projector to you today. (Monday, October 27) Unfortunately we were informed this morning that there was a delay at the Panasonic Factory in Japan and we have not received our stock yet. We will be receiving stock later this week, and will begin shipping as soon as possible. We apologize for the delay with your order, tracking information should be available to you by the end of the week."
PP gets 60 shipment Monday, 60 Wednesday and 200 by Friday but visualapex only "end of the week." Very frustrating.

cancel your order and get it faster...Tough times = togh descisions.
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post #879 of 1358
10/28/08 at 5:58am
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

Isn't there also the issue that so many movies are not exactly 2.35? I.e., one sees all sorts of ratios: 2.40, 2.20, 2.37, and of course 1.85.

Um, actually, that's the very issue being discussed.
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post #880 of 1358
10/28/08 at 6:06am
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Originally Posted by Stew4msu View Post

Um, actually, that's the very issue being discussed.

I thought the 'issue' was how the 2.35 image was positioned on the screen, not its actual size. Sorry if I missed the point.
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post #881 of 1358
10/28/08 at 6:11am
No problem miller, just giving you crap.

It's about how non-2.35 images would be positioned on the screen (or maybe I misunderstood).
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post #882 of 1358
10/28/08 at 6:23am
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post

This is well explored because anamorphic CIH would have this problem too. Anybody know of this being a problem?

How do you figure? With an anamorphic setup, you are stretching the image vertically to fill the panel, regardless of whether the image is in the exact center for every movie.
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post #883 of 1358
10/28/08 at 6:28am
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Originally Posted by Stew4msu View Post

Um, actually, that's the very issue being discussed.

Only partially - they are also discussing the fact that from one 2.35 AR movie to the next, it may be placed in slightly different positions vertically within the 16:9 frame.
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post #884 of 1358
10/28/08 at 6:39am
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Originally Posted by Uther View Post

How do you figure? With an anamorphic setup, you are stretching the image vertically to fill the panel, regardless of whether the image is in the exact center for every movie.

Most people apply one stretch factor to the image. Unless you're applying different stretches for every movie, if the original image is off center or different height, it will impact the stretched image by either cropping or retaining small black bars.
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post #885 of 1358
10/28/08 at 6:50am
geeman2001, it looks like the eBay cashback deal is gone for now, but people are saying it may come back.
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post #886 of 1358
10/28/08 at 6:56am
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Originally Posted by aquafire View Post

UNITS ON THE WAY!!! Tracking #

Anobody else get a tracking number from PP? I was (supposedly) in that first batch too, and haven't seen or heard anything since early yesterday. Don't really need it yet, but dangit, it's a new toy!!
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post #887 of 1358
10/28/08 at 7:06am
Don, I just got a tracking # from Projector People about 20 minutes ago. I ordered mine on October 14th.

Dick Fogg
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post #888 of 1358
10/28/08 at 7:08am
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Originally Posted by defrederickjr View Post

Anobody else get a tracking number from PP?

Yes! I placed my order the very first day they announced the great price, early in the morning, and told them I was authorizing them to charge my CC ASAP without having to call or email to get my authorization first (which is not their normal way of doing things, I believe). My card wasn't charged until a few days after the call (last week some time, I think) and I was also told I was in the first shipment (of 25?).

ETA Thursday!
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post #889 of 1358
10/28/08 at 7:08am
I got my tracking number from PP yesterday as well.
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post #890 of 1358
10/28/08 at 7:11am
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Originally Posted by defrederickjr View Post

Anobody else get a tracking number from PP? I was (supposedly) in that first batch too, and haven't seen or heard anything since early yesterday. Don't really need it yet, but dangit, it's a new toy!!

I called them to get my tracking number.
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post #891 of 1358
10/28/08 at 7:37am
Ordered mine on the 17th... Hoping to see that e-mail today! We're working nightly on the HT to get it presentable enough for a party we're having Friday - even though we won't have the IB subwoofers by then :-| At least we'll have picture!

I don't want to bug them by e-mailing or calling just to get a tracking number...
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post #892 of 1358
10/28/08 at 7:40am
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Originally Posted by Uther View Post

How do you figure? With an anamorphic setup, you are stretching the image vertically to fill the panel, regardless of whether the image is in the exact center for every movie.

So the electronics that do the stretching (in the pj or vp) figure this out. IC.
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post #893 of 1358
10/28/08 at 7:46am
Which PP are you guys talking about? Point or People? I bought from PPoint and got my tracking number from the UPS Quantum View email.
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post #894 of 1358
10/28/08 at 7:53am
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Originally Posted by Stu Pedaso View Post

Which PP are you guys talking about? Point or People? I bought from PPoint and got my tracking number from the UPS Quantum View email.

Ooops... forgot about PPoint... I was talking People.
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post #895 of 1358
10/28/08 at 7:55am
Is anyone here familiar with the old Sony VPL-VW10HT? I am seriously considering replacing my 10HT with the Panny AE3000U if it has brightness at least equivalent to the 10HT.

I'm using a 120" diagonal 16:9 Stewart Grayhawk screen.

Can anyone here comment on the brightness comparison between these two projectors?

Thank you.
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post #896 of 1358
10/28/08 at 8:13am
I am thinking about getting this projector soon to replace my current 50" plasma setup. I was considering getting a 2.35 screen since it seems like so many movies are in that ratio. When zooming the image of a 2.35 ratio movie to fill the screen, does the projector lose overall brightness compared to a full 16:9 frame? Also, is there any problem with having the image of the black bars projected past the top and bottom of the screen?
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post #897 of 1358
10/28/08 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by Pion View Post

I am thinking about getting this projector soon to replace my current 50" plasma setup. I was considering getting a 2.35 screen since it seems like so many movies are in that ratio. When zooming the image of a 2.35 ratio movie to fill the screen, does the projector lose overall brightness compared to a full 16:9 frame? Also, is there any problem with having the image of the black bars projected past the top and bottom of the screen?

It depends on the size of the 16:9 frame. If you are doing CIH, then yes, you will lose about 20% brightness when you zoom for 2.35. If you're doing constant width, then no brightness change.

If you keep what surrounds the screen dark the black bars should be fine.
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post #898 of 1358
10/28/08 at 11:08am
Lots of 2:35 discussion. I would love to get a manual pulldown 2:35-1 screen, but I have not found them yet. I only see fixed frame (can't do), and motorized (way too bloody expensive).

Do 2:35's come in pull down? Or anyone going for a motorized 2:35 which doesn't break the bank?
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post #899 of 1358
10/28/08 at 11:16am
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Originally Posted by ][udson View Post

Do 2:35's come in pull down?

Not as a standard size but any of the screen manufacturers should be able to make a custom size in the 2.35:1 AR (or any aspect ratio you choose).
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post #900 of 1358
10/28/08 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by DB2 View Post

Not as a standard size but any of the screen manufacturers should be able to make a custom size in the 2.35:1 AR (or any aspect ratio you choose).

Or you can buy an oversized 16:9 and only pull it down far enough to fit a 2.35 image on it, but then your image will be very high (but not a prob. for the panny as it should remember where to put the 2.35 image), just a thought for "poor man's 2.35"
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