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post #271 of 1077
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Do I need to learn some sort of new math for hanging drywall?

I measure the width, subtract about 1/2" so it isn't too tight. Cut the peice, lift it up, find it is still too tight, pull it down and shave off about 1/4". Hoist it up and see it fits, attach and notice the gap is now about 1 1/2".

THAT'S EXACTLY the problem I have and whyu I decided to just hire it out. I don't know why it is such a problem. I've had VERY few of these problems working with wood.

If you ever figure it out, let me know!
post #272 of 1077
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Originally Posted by Audixium View Post

You know how it goes around here....there has been no progress unless photographic proof is shown.

I hope to finish the bathroom tonight, then I will post pics.
post #273 of 1077
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

THAT'S EXACTLY the problem I have and whyu I decided to just hire it out. I don't know why it is such a problem. I've had VERY few of these problems working with wood.

If you ever figure it out, let me know!

I think it is because of the drywall lift.

It is hard to do peices smaller than a full sheet, because you hit edges on more than 1 side while getting the lift to line up. Also the lift causes angles you didn't measure for, the angles of the wheels on the ground, the angle of the arms rotated in the air, the angle of the arms trying to hold the peice verticle.

I think the lift will be good for ceilings, and long walls, but for areas less than 8 feet wide, I will try by hand. I placed a few nails about 50" down the wall and placed the peice on top of them. Started a few screws, and lifted into place and finished the screws. Much smaller gaps this way.

I also think I can place a small scrap in the gap I currently have. I will take a before and after pic tonight to see if I can fix it.
post #274 of 1077
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Ok, proof there was actual work. The bathroom is done!!!


This shot is from the door looking towards the vanity. The ladder is where the toilet will be, and the visible stud on the left has been covered since this shot. The shower is directly to the left.


This is a shot from the vanity looking towards the toilet:


This is a shot from the door looking straight in towards the shower The bad drywall is directly under the soffet on the left.


Here is a closeup of the drywall after it was fixed.


No more to do tonight. My wife asked me to spend some time upstairs tonight with her and the kids, so its the least I can do since she is letting me spend all that time in the basement.
post #275 of 1077
Hey, you're done rocking the bathroom!

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Originally Posted by Chiahead View Post

No more to do tonight. My wife asked me to spend some time upstairs tonight with her and the kids, so its the least I can do since she is letting me spend all that time in the basement.

This is the one reason I will be hiring out the job. She's concerned that the kids will all of a sudden age an entire year without me being there to witness it.
post #276 of 1077
Michael,

Your drywall photos look much better than your previous narrative might have suggested!
Don't be too hard on yourself.

And; yes even though you are on a roll you need to take that quality time :-),
off >> to bond with the family
post #277 of 1077
Nice job! I'll post my fixes once my DSL comes back up.
post #278 of 1077
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Most of the gaps were hidden by the next sheet. This one was the worst, and the only place I made a patch. I was going to glue it to the studs, but after test fitting it there was no way to get it out without destroying it. So there it stays.

As for the kids. They are usually in the basement with me. They design their own houses in pencil on the floor. pound nails into scrap to make themselves trophies, and my son loves the shop vac to suck up the debris. He especially likes it now that I showed him he can suck up his pants, and stick it to his belly, and also suck his lips in with it.

The kids each have their own ear protection for when I am making noise, and they are great for things like getting me another clip of nails, grabbing the tape measure, holding the end of the tape measure, and of course asking endless questions...
post #279 of 1077
We need to try and make sure gaps are filled with something like sealant or mud before the second layer.
post #280 of 1077
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Thanks for stopping in Ted. Most definately on the gaps. I have some of the accoustical caulk for those cracks. This was only the bathroom. I will start there with my drywall training and work my way up to tight neat seams with the theater, and sealing every crack before the second layer goes on. No sence in messing that up since I have already invested in isolation and lights in the soffets after drywall.
post #281 of 1077
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question for anyone following...

My house have the rounded drywall edges, since I want the basement to look like the rest of the house, I will be doing the same. My issue is I do not have soffets anywhere else in the house, so do I edge the horizontal lines on the soffet using the rounded bead, or the square bead? The verticle walls will be rounded, and the arches will be rounded, I am just not sure if I should go with wounded or square for the soffets.
post #282 of 1077
My soffits on the main and second floors have round overs. I would do the same in the basement if I were you.
post #283 of 1077
At lunch I was thinking about what you said earlier about your build:

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Originally Posted by Chiahead View Post

I don't need to worry about the front until the stage is in, and the soffets, and I am getting ready for the false wall and riser.



Then, I opened my fortune cookie and thought I would deliver the message:

post #284 of 1077
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Originally Posted by Chiahead View Post

question for anyone following...

My house have the rounded drywall edges, since I want the basement to look like the rest of the house, I will be doing the same. My issue is I do not have soffets anywhere else in the house, so do I edge the horizontal lines on the soffet using the rounded bead, or the square bead? The verticle walls will be rounded, and the arches will be rounded, I am just not sure if I should go with wounded or square for the soffets.

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Originally Posted by Audixium View Post

My soffits on the main and second floors have round overs. I would do the same in the basement if I were you.

I agree. When I've working in homes with rounded edge drywall...soffits have also been rounded.
post #285 of 1077
This is one long term build. WOW...I wanna see this done, but Im not sure if im going to be alive by that time..lol..."sits and waits"..
post #286 of 1077
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rounded it is...


Come on now, I am only a year in. And I am drywalling... Allot of these threads aren't started until they get to about the drywall stage, I just started the thread when I started building.

Friday, didn't do any work. My uncle passed away on Sept 20, so Friday was his memorial.

But Saturday is a different story. My wife is away scrapbooking for the weekend, so I turned on the TV for the kids, and went to work. Finished the ceiling behind the bar, all the soffets around the bar, parts of the wall the fridge will be on, and 4 full sheets on the ceiling in front of the bar. I AM SORE!!!

Talked to my Brother in Law at the memorial. He owns a construction company. He is going to put me in touch with his electrical supervisor for connecting the sub panel to the main panel. He also has a crew of guys who only do wall finishing, they don't hang, so I will see what they can do for me when I get close to finishing the drywall.
post #287 of 1077
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Question for all you drywall guru's...

Anyone have experience bending drywall? I have 3 arches I will be doing. Home Depot has 1/4" drywall. Will that just easily bend without breaking, or do I need to wet it, or score the backside, or even remove all the paper from the back?

I put up one of the sides by the arch in the bar last night, and I will be needing to do some arches soon, so I am starting to wonder about this.
post #288 of 1077
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Originally Posted by Chiahead View Post

Question for all you drywall guru's...

Anyone have experience bending drywall? I have 3 arches I will be doing. Home Depot has 1/4" drywall. Will that just easily bend without breaking, or do I need to wet it, or score the backside, or even remove all the paper from the back?

I put up one of the sides by the arch in the bar last night, and I will be needing to do some arches soon, so I am starting to wonder about this.

It depends on the arch. If it is a small radius arch you may have to wet even 1/4". But for larger radii arches you could use 1/4" without wetting.
post #289 of 1077
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Bar is all rocked!!!

Here is a shot looking from the rec room into the bar area:


From the last image by the window, here is one looking towards the bathroom door:


Now from the bathroom looking back:


From the spot the fridge will be in towards the rec room:


And finally from the edge of the rec room looking towards the fridge:


It was a rough week to get this done, my daughter had a fever most of the week, I was sick one night, my son got sick Wednessday, and my wife got sick on Friday, so the crud has been here all week, and as a result, I finished this on Saturday, and did no work on Sunday (day of rest and all right)

I went to Home Depot to find 1/4" rock for the arches, but they don't carry it in my county. They did say that the older homes in Denver use 1/4" for the walls, so I will have to use the wife's car someday and go at lunch to get some in the city.
post #290 of 1077
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Well, this last week, I started the ceiling in the rec room. I got about 4 sheets in and decided, enough, time to hit the theater!!!

I ended up getting the whole first layer done in the theater. Now I need to order my Green Glue.

There are some gaps in the seams, but this will make it easier to get the accoustical caulk in there, and hopefully there will be few seam overlaps when I do the second layer. I will be orienting the second layer at 90 degrees to layer 1.

Here is a shot looking towards the screen wall.


Here is an image from the screen wall looking towards the entrance.



Wow, there is still allot of dust in the air. I hadn't used the rotozip in about an hour.

In other news, I heard from my BIL's electrician this morning, and he is going to attempt to come out and see what is needed this week, so hopefully I will have electricity soon. Not a hurry since I have lamps and don't want to play with outlets and fixtures until after drywall is finished, so I am not getting the fixtures messed up.

I also took a trip to a Home Depot in Denver this weekend, and got a sheet of 1/4" drywall to work on the arches.

Still to do before next drywall level in theater:
AV closet
Rec Room
Caulk seams in Theater
Order Green Glue

There may be a slow down in work comming up. I may need to travel to San Francisco for work next week, and Nov 10, Modern Warefare 2 is released, so I am sure that will suck up allot of my free time.
post #291 of 1077
Great progress! Exciting to be at this point! Are you going to attempt the mudding and taping?
post #292 of 1077
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Great progress! Exciting to be at this point! Are you going to attempt the mudding and taping?

Thanks, and no, I put a bathroom in my last house, and I was not happy at all with my results from the taping and finishing, so I will be hiring that out. My BIL (Brother-In-Law) is in construction, and he has a crew that only finished, they don't even hang, just finishing, so I will probably get them out to give an estimate.

On a side note, I just got off the Phone with Ted White, and I currently have 4 cases of Green Glue preparing to make its journey to my basement. He thought I would have it in about 3 days, if that is the case, I may skip the AV closet and rec room for now, and just play with the Theater for awhile more.
post #293 of 1077
Good to see progress!

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Originally Posted by Chiahead View Post

My BIL (Brother-In-Law) is in construction, and he has a crew that only finished, they don't even hang, just finishing, so I will probably get them out to give an estimate.

Please post what they quote you. Also, would you mind asking them if they are willing to work in the Roxborough area? I'm clearly a long way off from needing drywall finishing, but it would be good to have a reference (assuming they do good work) once I am ready.
post #294 of 1077
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I'll let you know. and I don't think location is an issue. My BIL's office is C-470 and Lucent, so that is allot closer to you. His crews mainly work on commercial buildings, not residential, but seeing as the economy blows right now for construction, I was just asking if he had guys who wanted some evening and weekend hours. This way he can still use them for his work, and I can help them a little on the side.

His electrician lives at about Lincoln and Highlands Ranch Parkway, and he is coming out here sometime this week, but these guys travel allot for wherever the current job site is.
post #295 of 1077
Looking good Chia. Way to stick with it. By spring you'll be enjoying your air conditioned theater (man cave) playing MW2.
post #296 of 1077
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Thanks fuse, but I wouldn't count on Spring... Everything so far has been cheap, still to go are GOM, carpet, flooring, A/V equipment, seating, etc... So even though I would love to be rolling, I fear the finance committee may not be thrilled with the expedetures comming up, but since I am sleeping with the head of that committee, maybe I can get some extra purchaseing ability.
post #297 of 1077
I got my GG order in two days. Ordered it Wednesday and it showed up Friday. Great service. I got three pails. Weird thing was two of them were inside boxes and one of them was just the pail. Not that it made any difference, just weird. It was MUCH easier to handle without the box.

Good luck. Rock looks good. WISH I could have done it myself, but you know, it would have been MONTHS.
post #298 of 1077
Michael,

Your drywall is really coming along well. I hear where you are coming from on hiring out.
I dry-walled and mud/taped my bathroom - that was enoiugh for me - I hired out ALL of the remaining drywall activities for the entire basement!
post #299 of 1077
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I don't mind the hanging, and I really didn't trust someone to do the theater right. Any misses (GG, caulk, overlapping seams, etc...) and I would have been mad, now if there is an issue, I can only blame myself...

On a side note, my son now is selling "tickets" to his sister before she can come in the "feater" to see me working. Is it that rare that I do something that tickets need to be sold to see it?
post #300 of 1077
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...my son now is selling "tickets" to his sister...

At least he isn't selling "tickets" to his sister like my son proposed: $5 a kiss.
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