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post #1 of 37
Thread Starter 
Just thought this would be a good thread to comment on movies you have viewed on your Kuro.

Tonight I watched TRANSFORMERS (SD-DVD upscaled by PS3).

I would have to say that the PS3 upscaling is almost equivalent to Blu-Ray quality.

Overall, the movie sounded amazing and looked pretty good - however, strange as this may sound, I found it a little "dark" for my liking.

I viewed the movie in default Optimum mode which seems to be MY preferred mode for most movies.

I own the Kuro 151fd Elite 9G.
post #2 of 37
It's not the same. I have both and I did a blind test with my wife and even she said the blu-ray version looked crisper and had more vivid colors. Not to mention the Dolby TruHd sounded much better. Get the Blu-ray if you got a Kuro.
post #3 of 37
I don't have the blu-ray of transformers yet, but the hd dvd looks a lot better to me than the regular dvd even upscaled on the ps3. PS3 upscaling is nowhere near blu-ray in my experience. Are you sitting really far away?
post #4 of 37
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Originally Posted by corpfan1 View Post

I would have to say that the PS3 upscaling is almost equivalent to Blu-Ray quality.

can't agree with this one.

upscaling, whether performed by you PS3, Kuro, or both, invents a lot of data that is not there on the disc. the whole concept of an "upscaling" DVD player in today's fixed pixel display world is more of a marketing gimmick like "Full HD" and "120Hz" than anything that offers concrete benefits. the only caveat would be if you display has terrible video processing, or you have a very expensive DVD player.

high definition media like BD or HD DVD is a completely different ballgame.
post #5 of 37
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Originally Posted by corpfan1 View Post

Just thought this would be a good thread to comment on movies you have viewed on your Kuro.

Tonight I watched TRANSFORMERS (SD-DVD upscaled by PS3).

I would have to say that the PS3 upscaling is almost equivalent to Blu-Ray quality.

Overall, the movie sounded amazing and looked pretty good - however, strange as this may sound, I found it a little "dark" for my liking.

I viewed the movie in default Optimum mode which seems to be MY preferred mode for most movies.

I own the Kuro 151fd Elite 9G.

Transformers is one of the best HD releases ever, it's doubtlful that the SD looks anywhere near what I've got on HD DVD, I have the combo too so I can do an A/B, I know a dual layer dvd might be marginally better but still, SD is SD even with the best upscaling (reon/relta). Honestly I don't know what the consensus is but I think your display might upscale better than the PS3
post #6 of 37
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Originally Posted by corpfan1 View Post

I would have to say that the PS3 upscaling is almost equivalent to Blu-Ray quality.

No, SD up conversion does not come close to BD.
post #7 of 37
To respond to the original purpose of the thread, I watched Chronicles of Narnia on BD recently and while I'm not blown away with the movie I think it looked really good. Of course the Kuro helped I'd seen the movie before but never like that..
post #8 of 37
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Originally Posted by corpfan1 View Post

Just thought this would be a good thread to comment on movies you have viewed on your Kuro.

Tonight I watched TRANSFORMERS (SD-DVD upscaled by PS3).

I would have to say that the PS3 upscaling is almost equivalent to Blu-Ray quality.

Overall, the movie sounded amazing and looked pretty good - however, strange as this may sound, I found it a little "dark" for my liking.

I viewed the movie in default Optimum mode which seems to be MY preferred mode for most movies.

I own the Kuro 151fd Elite 9G.

Your first problem is using optimum for anything....especially if you are goibng to make claims about PQ.
I would go to the owners thread and find some accurate settings.
post #9 of 37
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Originally Posted by Patrick. View Post

To respond to the original purpose of the thread, I watched Chronicles of Narnia on BD recently and while I'm not blown away with the movie I think it looked really good. Of course the Kuro helped I'd seen the movie before but never like that..

Not all blu-ray discs are created equal (e.g. Video codec: MPEG-4 AVC).
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Originally Posted by E-A-G-L-E-S View Post

Your first problem is using optimum for anything....especially if you are goibng to make claims about PQ.

For those 'Elite' Kuro PDP owners... only "Pure" mode will do.

BTW... Thursday night the "madness" begins as the NYG(s) begin their quest to defend their Superbowl title.
post #10 of 37
Well if he wants to use optimum I have a Non elite set I can trade...
post #11 of 37
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Originally Posted by optivity View Post

Not all blu-ray discs are created equal (e.g. Video codec: MPEG-4 AVC).

I said it looked "good" it's definitely not one of the best releases out there.
post #12 of 37
My wife watched Sense and Sensibility on HD-DVD on our PRO150..'
She even called me into the room to watch this fantastic looking movie...
To use her words:"It looks like you could walk right into the picture".

And this from a woman who was against my selling a 2 year 61" JVCPRO and to use the money towards the Kuro!)
post #13 of 37
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by E-A-G-L-E-S View Post

Your first problem is using optimum for anything....especially if you are goibng to make claims about PQ.
I would go to the owners thread and find some accurate settings.


I am finding the PURE mode very yellowy/browny and blurry with D-Nice settings as compared to OPTIMUM. Just can't get used to it. I find OPTIMUM brings out the detail and makes things brighter and clearer.
post #14 of 37
So basically you like an inaccurate picture Very "yellow" is D65 and is something you may have to get used to, but once you do, the other settings look absolutely horrible. If it is blurry turn up the sharpness a couple of notches.
post #15 of 37
I don't think transformers is reference for color accuracy. But the many night scenes make it great to show off the kuro.

2001 space oddesy is pretty impressive. But like all Kubrek movies, a little odd.
post #16 of 37
Irobot looks amazing on bluray, one of the best easily.
post #17 of 37
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Originally Posted by Zues View Post

I don't think transformers is reference for color accuracy. But the many night scenes make it great to show off the kuro.

It may not be the best for color accuracy, but Megan Fox in HD on the Kuro, sure is easy on the eyes.
post #18 of 37
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

It may not be the best for color accuracy, but Megan Fox in HD on the Kuro, sure is easy on the eyes.


She laughed when i showed her this. We are hanging out right now
post #19 of 37
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Originally Posted by Zues View Post

She laughed when i showed her this. We are hanging out right now

Tell her ze Wabo says "hi."
post #20 of 37
Of the high def movies I have watched on my PRO-111 (about 215 hours of use, no "break-in" disc) the most spectacular have been First Knight (Blu-ray - good colour, good black levels, sharp), The Searchers (HDDVD - fantastic sharpness in desert scenes, good colour), Vertical Limit (Blu-ray - good colour, bright white scenes, good black levels, sharp), Cast Away (Blu-ray - good colour, good black levels, sharp), Starship Troopers (Blu-ray - good colour, good black levels, sharp), Bullitt (HDDVD - good sharpness, good colour for older movie), AeonFlux (HDDVD - good sharpness, great colour good whites and the first 2.35:1 movie, the letterbox bars were totally black and completely invisible except for barely noticable in a couple dark scenes), and finally the Moody Blues - Lovely To see You (Blu-ray - good colour, good black levels, sharp). Even DVD movies upscaled by my SONY S500 can look very good, if not a slight bit "blurry" as compared to high def titles!

I use Pure mode (contrast 27), dot by dot, colour temp LOW, enhancer 1, gamma 2, Powersave 2 and all other NR, etc. set to OFF. These settings give a great picture that sometimes verges on too bright (white levels) in a totally light controlled room.

Having fun with Kuro..
P.E.H.
post #21 of 37
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Originally Posted by corpfan1 View Post

Just thought this would be a good thread to comment on movies you have viewed on your Kuro.

Tonight I watched TRANSFORMERS (SD-DVD upscaled by PS3).

I would have to say that the PS3 upscaling is almost equivalent to Blu-Ray quality.

Overall, the movie sounded amazing and looked pretty good - however, strange as this may sound, I found it a little "dark" for my liking.

I viewed the movie in default Optimum mode which seems to be MY preferred mode for most movies.

I own the Kuro 151fd Elite 9G.

Joke post?
Seriously I own the hd-dvd transformers and also have the dvd. There is no comparison even when played on the ps3 (my blu-ray player and dvd player as well).
post #22 of 37
Thread Starter 
I can't compare it to the BLU-RAY or HDDVD of the same movie, but I can say that the SD DVD upscaled looks almost as good as most BluRays I have watched so far.
post #23 of 37
I have my a ton of SD movies....as,I would assume,most posters do.
Wanting the best possible viewing experience,in terms of SD,I use an OPPO983
with my PRO150......setting the dot-to-dot mode is as close to HiDef as one could possibly hope for...I know there are reasons why BD is better,yet,my eyes cannot see a vast difference.I have a Sammy 5000 for Blu-Ray and HD-DVD....I am just as happy viewing a movie I truly enjoy,than watching,for the most part,the bunch of garbage that has been out out thus far for BD...Looking down the Pike.I see very little in the future that would excite me....
Succinctly put....it is all in the eyes of the beholder......we could argue day in and day out about what technology may or may not produce......but if the viewer is more than content with both content and PQ.........he/she has made on hell of a wise investment.
post #24 of 37
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Originally Posted by corpfan1 View Post

I am finding the PURE mode very yellowy/browny and blurry with D-Nice settings as compared to OPTIMUM.

Try using PURE mode w/o the so-called reference settings.

Contrast 36
Brightness 1
Sharpness -5
DRE Low
post #25 of 37
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Originally Posted by hodges69 View Post

I have my a ton of SD movies....as,I would assume,most posters do.
Wanting the best possible viewing experience,in terms of SD,I use an OPPO983
with my PRO150......setting the dot-to-dot mode is as close to HiDef as one could possibly hope for...I know there are reasons why BD is better,yet,my eyes cannot see a vast difference.I have a Sammy 5000 for Blu-Ray and HD-DVD....I am just as happy viewing a movie I truly enjoy,than watching,for the most part,the bunch of garbage that has been out out thus far for BD...Looking down the Pike.I see very little in the future that would excite me....
Succinctly put....it is all in the eyes of the beholder......we could argue day in and day out about what technology may or may not produce......but if the viewer is more than content with both content and PQ.........he/she has made on hell of a wise investment.

But almost the same exact films will be your only options on SD in the recent past and near future as well.
post #26 of 37
You can attempt to knock my settings all you want optivity. However, you will NEVER be able to beat them clown.

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Originally Posted by optivity View Post

Try using PURE mode w/o the so-called reference settings.

Contrast 36
Brightness 1
Sharpness -5
DRE Low
post #27 of 37
An upcoming reference disc will be Speed Racer on BD
post #28 of 37
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

An upcoming reference disc will be Speed Racer on BD

You'll have to sit through it though
post #29 of 37
I'll get Speed Racer for the kids.Just like I did for Cars and the rest of those other titles.lol
post #30 of 37
Can I use these movies to show off my Insignia?

Here's a nice thread for a list movies to show off.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858316
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