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post #1141 of 2810
Okay, thanks guys. I think I'll go for a new one to be sure I don't have to deal with the 'blue dot' problem. Still can't figure why the pricing went up. OneCall is now $585!

I was originally looking to get the 606 but because of the MultEQ and Pre-Outs I am pushing up the budget to get a 706.
post #1142 of 2810
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Originally Posted by omegat3 View Post

It's not particularly due to heat, but are a result of an issue with the HDMI board (now corrected). They appear on mine immediately in conjunction with the PS3 at 1080p if Immediate Display is on or if HDMI is set to 1080p.

Interesting. I do no video processing in my 706. The HDMI switch is set to "Through."
post #1143 of 2810
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Originally Posted by bluesky636 View Post

Interesting. I do no video processing in my 706. The HDMI switch is set to "Through."

Some processing -- The Through option doesn't scale the resolution but still clips BTB and WTW, if you're into that sort of thing.
post #1144 of 2810
I double checked I did pay 549 for mine from onecall, as mentioned it's 589 now.

I checked on 6ave and it shows it at 799. It was 512 on MONDAY!
post #1145 of 2810
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

Some processing -- The Through option doesn't scale the resolution but still clips BTB and WTW, if you're into that sort of thing.

Not that I can tell.

Oh, and I have a BIG "S" after my serial number. My receiver is black. So maybe it does mean something.
post #1146 of 2810
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Originally Posted by bluestarCVO View Post

But for only $50 more you could have a brand new one fresh out the box. If you were saving more than $100 with the refurb I would say go for it, but it's only $50.
And all the new 706's should have the blue dot problem corrected.



Yeah, if you order one from Amazon onecall is who you are actually getting it from. I've had no problems with mine.

This isn't necessarily true. Onecall is a common third party vendor used by Amazon, and I've gotten products from them before, as well as 6th Avenue. My 706 and Dx-7555 came directly from Amazon, not third party vendors. This can change from day to day.
post #1147 of 2810
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10 View Post

I double checked I did pay 549 for mine from onecall, as mentioned it's 589 now.

I checked on 6ave and it shows it at 799. It was 512 on MONDAY!

These prices vary like the weather. I paid $549 a while back and I've seen it as low as $538 (new prices, not refurbs) and as high as $599. Obviously they're on the upswing right now. Be patient and they'll fall again.
post #1148 of 2810
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Originally Posted by tym2relax View Post

Does this mean any purchase of the 706 from an Onkyo AD will have the blue dot problem fixed? I'm looking to get one, but would hate to have to send it right back for repair.

Also, I noticed a price increase for the 706. It used to be found for around $500, but now Amazon is $559 and 6Ave is surprisingly $799. It's $499 at Acc4less, but that's a refurb, which may be fine...

I like this receiver too, but every where I go, there are reviews about returns because of the blue dots. I spent a couple of hours reading last night, but did not come across a thread that indicated with certainty the problem was resolved or how to identify if you will get a "good" one vs. a "bad" one. I will actually not be connecting any video sources to the unit initially (no 1080p right now), but will in the future; as such, I'm interested in ensuring I'm getting a "good" one from the get-go since I won't be able to test it within any return period.

Can anyone point me to the quintisential thread that discusses the blue dot issue and ultimate resolution (I tried the search and got through about 20 pages of this thread).

Thanks!
post #1149 of 2810
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Originally Posted by mooch91 View Post

I like this receiver too, but every where I go, there are reviews about returns because of the blue dots. I spent a couple of hours reading last night, but did not come across a thread that indicated with certainty the problem was resolved or how to identify if you will get a "good" one vs. a "bad" one. I will actually not be connecting any video sources to the unit initially (no 1080p right now), but will in the future; as such, I'm interested in ensuring I'm getting a "good" one from the get-go since I won't be able to test it within any return period.

Can anyone point me to the quintisential thread that discusses the blue dot issue and ultimate resolution (I tried the search and got through about 20 pages of this thread).

Thanks!

Have you tried The "Official" The Onkyo TX-SR706 Owners Thread?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...d#post15535136

Blue artifacts are apparently sometimes an issue using a PS3 over HDMI. Fixed by disabling the OSD and setting the HDMI to through. Usually found on early HDMI boards that have since been replaced -- may or may not be indicated by an "S" in the vicinity of the serial number on the back of the receiver. This is not to be confused with an "S" or "B" indicating that it is a silver or black model.
post #1150 of 2810
It seems that this problem occurs only when you have the 706 involved in the video processing, not when you are passing video through. Not everyone wants the AVR to do any scaling since they can rely on the BluRay or TV to do a better job. Either way I would like to know there is not problem. Thing is, this only occurs on 1080p video, those of us who do not have a 1080p TV may not discover the problem till much later.

This is why I would like to know for sure if Onkyo did in fact make the HDMI board change and indicated that on the serial number.
post #1151 of 2810
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Originally Posted by tym2relax View Post

It seems that this problem occurs only when you have the 706 involved in the video processing, not when you are passing video through. Not everyone wants the AVR to do any scaling since they can rely on the BluRay or TV to do a better job. Either way I would like to know there is not problem. Thing is, this only occurs on 1080p video, those of us who do not have a 1080p TV may not discover the problem till much later.

This is why I would like to know for sure if Onkyo did in fact make the HDMI board change and indicated that on the serial number.

I can tell you that I have a serial number ending in S (there's actually a white sticker with an S added to the original serial number) that was purchased new from Amazon, and I use a PS3 feeding HDMI to the 706 and then to my JVC HD56-FN97 (1080p native resolution) and I've never experienced any problems. I've set the receiver to 1080p and pass through and noticed no difference.

With any product you'll find all the problems on the internet, but rarely people reporting normalcy. I'm pretty sure this was an early problem that has been remedied.
post #1152 of 2810
Dang, Amazon raised the price again! Now. 579!
post #1153 of 2810
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

Some processing -- The Through option doesn't scale the resolution but still clips BTB and WTW, if you're into that sort of thing.

Hmmm...didn't know that.
Is there new FW to correct this?
BTW, what is the latest FW?
post #1154 of 2810
Hello all, joined the club and the forum after many months of lurking.

I had the 706 for around 3 weeks now and finally got the Audyssey mic to work. I really didn't do anything other plug it in and power up the unit. Not sure what was wrong but it works now.

No PS3 blue dots here and sure it does get a little warm but nothing I find to be extreme.

Anyway I'm going to do a complete reset and start over. I'm not too happy with the sound. Movies, TV and games do sound good. But CD music sounds really poor. I'm wondering if it's my speakers, configs, or perhaps my aging ears.

I finally caught up, grabed the word doc from the Audyssey set up guide and read all the posts in this thread

Anyone else with Klipsch speakers and the Onk706 here?

Some specs
SR706 black
Klipsch Quintet III w/Klipsch Sub-10 Subwoofer
PS3
Wii
AppleTV
Old Sony 51 CD changer
Sharp Aquos LC-42D64U
post #1155 of 2810
Has anyone figured out what the problem is with the mic? My 706 should be here tomorrow and I am going to try to set it up Sunday. I have Klipsch reference speakers. I hope it works out.
post #1156 of 2810
Greetings everyone,
I've had my SR706 for a few months now. For those folks obsessing over their choices, I have no complaints about this receiver. It is easy to set-up and operate. I am not experiencing any glitches or problems. Great on-screen set-up (though only when using an HDMI connection), nice remote as well.

For the money, the 706 has all the current features you might want. Especially for home theater, I am very satisfied. The 706 is an outstanding value and I wouldn't hesistate to recommend it.
post #1157 of 2810
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10 View Post

Has anyone figured out what the problem is with the mic? My 706 should be here tomorrow and I am going to try to set it up Sunday. I have Klipsch reference speakers. I hope it works out.

My mic works perfectly and so did the one on my previous 605. I doubt you have anything to worry about.

I wonder if people are using it improperly. It should be aimed upward. There's even a hole on the bottom for fixing it atop a tripod. I worked in hifi for a while and it's amazing what people do wrong sometimes (I have more stories than you'd want to hear.) I wouldn't be surprised if people are aiming it at their front speakers, etc.

I'm sure some people are having legitimate problems, but I don't think they're as widespread as you may think. And for what it's worth, I sold Onkyo components back in the early 90's and we NEVER had any units fail. We had tons of Denon and Philips items come back non-functioning (especially CD carousel changers.) No knock on Denon and Philips; they're products sounded great, but they couldn't compete with Onkyo for reliabilty. My dad has a 20 year old Onkyo Pro Logic receiver that sounds fantastic and works like a champ.
post #1158 of 2810
Excuse me. I want everyone on this board to try something with their Onkyo SR706. Use any source of any type. Put the DSP on TV Logic and/ or Mono Movie. Watch or listen to anything for about 20 minutes; as long as it's getting some sound input. Keep the volume under 20 (absolute volume mode).

I'm asking because either I haven't used the TV Logic or Mono Movie until recently or not; I don't know. But after about 15-20 minutes the most horrible, loud sound comes bursting through the front L&R and surround L&R speakers. It's sudden, it has high-pitched screeching and a low frequency hum. It last for about 3 seconds and repeats every few seconds up to a minute. It is the creepiest sound I've ever heard in my life. I've let 2 friends hear it and it sends shivers down all our spines. I just want to know if it's mine alone that has this glitch or not. Please people, try it and report back. Keep the volume low at about 20 as it is LOUD even at that level. Seriously, it sounds like some demonic creature is trying to tear into the room. I've re-hooked my audio directly to the TV until I can get it fixed or replaced. Scared to listen to anything for fear it could happen under other settings. Thank you all that try.
post #1159 of 2810
I guess I am just paranoid it's not going to work or my speakers won't sound good or something.
post #1160 of 2810
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Originally Posted by Aaron79 View Post

Excuse me. I want everyone on this board to try something with their Onkyo SR706. Use any source of any type. Put the DSP on TV Logic and/ or Mono Movie. Watch or listen to anything for about 20 minutes; as long as it's getting some sound input. Keep the volume under 20 (absolute volume mode).

I'm asking because either I haven't used the TV Logic or Mono Movie until recently or not; I don't know. But after about 15-20 minutes the most horrible, loud sound comes bursting through the front L&R and surround L&R speakers. It's sudden, it has high-pitched screeching and a low frequency hum. It last for about 3 seconds and repeats every few seconds up to a minute. It is the creepiest sound I've ever heard in my life. I've let 2 friends hear it and it sends shivers down all our spines. I just want to know if it's mine alone that has this glitch or not. Please people, try it and report back. Keep the volume low at about 20 as it is LOUD even at that level. Seriously, it sounds like some demonic creature is trying to tear into the room. I've re-hooked my audio directly to the TV until I can get it fixed or replaced. Scared to listen to anything for fear it could happen under other settings. Thank you all that try.

It's haunted -- send it back.
post #1161 of 2810
this is a general splitter question.

i have a similar splitter to the one mentioned here:

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Originally Posted by Dugout Doug View Post

I just got this http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2 to split signal out of the onlyo to a tv and projector, it should do what you want.

the splitter works fine if i run the hdmi directly from source (apple tv/ps3/etc...) to my screens (lg 42" lcd 720p and sanyo plv-z700). i can have both screens on, or just one and the signal gets through fine.

i can also attach either display to the hdmi out of the onkyo and it works fine.

but if i try to connect the splitter to the hdmi out of the onkyo nothing happens. i get the two red lights on the splitter indicating that it is receiving the signal, but neither display is able to get it.

i'm guessing based on the fact the splitter works outside of the receiver that it's something to do with how the onkyo is outputting the signal. i've tried changing it in hardware settings to (auto, through, 720p and 1080p) but still nothing.

this is the splitter i have: http://firefold.com/1X2-HDMI-Splitter-P430C1083.aspx
post #1162 of 2810
btw, i got my sr706s from the onkyo refurb store for $377.90 shipped and including tax. it went down to $349 one weekend, plus they had 10% off and if you signed up as a member you got an additional $10 off. i watched it dip twice down to $349 and cursed myself for missing it the first time so jumped the next time i saw it.

i never saw the black model go that low.

my mic worked fine out of the box as well.
post #1163 of 2810
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10 View Post

I guess I am just paranoid it's not going to work or my speakers won't sound good or something.

Yes you are.

Besides, you always have the option of turning Audessey off and setting things up manually if you don't like what it does.
post #1164 of 2810
For those of you still looking to buy a 706, but concerned about the 'blue dot' problem I wanted to share with you a response I got from Onkyo about this.

I asked if the the current dealers were selling 'updated' 706's referring to the blue dot problem. Response?

"Cannot guarantee that if you purchased this model from one of our authorized retailers that it would not have to be modified by an authorized service center because some retailers may have older stock."

So, unless you know of a dealer that has 'new' stock you are not going to know for sure what you are going to get.
post #1165 of 2810
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Originally Posted by tym2relax View Post

For those of you still looking to buy a 706, but concerned about the 'blue dot' problem I wanted to share with you a response I got from Onkyo about this.

I asked if the the current dealers were selling 'updated' 706's referring to the blue dot problem. Response?

"Cannot guarantee that if you purchased this model from one of our authorized retailers that it would not have to be modified by an authorized service center because some retailers may have older stock."

So, unless you know of a dealer that has 'new' stock you are not going to know for sure what you are going to get.

I know Amazon has run out of 706's since I bought mine, and mine is the new version, so you can be sure they have all new stock.
post #1166 of 2810
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Originally Posted by lvtdude View Post

I know Amazon has run out of 706's since I bought mine, and mine is the new version, so you can be sure they have all new stock.


That's what I was thinking. I just ordered one from Amazon.
post #1167 of 2810
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Originally Posted by tym2relax View Post

That's what I was thinking. I just ordered one from Amazon.

Enjoy!
post #1168 of 2810
I don't see a lot of guys around here pushing for new FW for the 706.

The lack of TRUE video pass-thru in a current AVR is ridiculous....the clipping of BTB and WTW is unacceptable in this day and age.
Onkyo can do better than this.
post #1169 of 2810
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

I don't see a lot of guys around here pushing for new FW for the 706.

The lack of TRUE video pass-thru in a current AVR is ridiculous....the clipping of BTB and WTW is unacceptable in this day and age.
Onkyo can do better than this.

Maybe, but I'm thrilled with the receiver and couldn't care less.
post #1170 of 2810
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

I don't see a lot of guys around here pushing for new FW for the 706.

The lack of TRUE video pass-thru in a current AVR is ridiculous....the clipping of BTB and WTW is unacceptable in this day and age.
Onkyo can do better than this.

Can you even tell that there is clipping in program material vs a test signal? I can't. I think the display has a greater affect than the AVR. Many current tvs won't display a good black although whites appear good.
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