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post #1411 of 2810
4/13/09 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by tattootearz View Post

Yea, when I purchased it I considered the current market climate and pricing. I saw it going for as much as $899 and even more so after considering a few Denon units and disqualifying the Yamaha 665 due to it's flimsy weight, I settled on this baby because of it's glowing Sound/Vision review and the feature package.


WOW... this is most unfortunate. I am happy that neither you or your daughter were harmed in anyway....

I know many people on this thread will chime in saying that their unit has worked fine for the 20+ years that they've had it.... but being a new owner and seeing that this has happened to atleast one other person before, I am a bit apprehensive about keeping this unit...

My unit is on the top glass shelf of a rack with nothing above it or on the sides of it.... nothing but air surrounding it as my rack is not enclosed at all.

hmmm.... alot to think about....

I have not had this happen to my 706 but I have had car amps, other stereos, tv's... you name it, burn up like that. It is not something that should happen often but it can. A piece of something conductive falling in, a solder joint melts and bridges a couple of components, enough condensation, it can happen to anything electronic.
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4/13/09 at 1:47pm
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I have not had this happen to my 706 but I have had car amps, other stereos, tv's... you name it, burn up like that. It is not something that should happen often but it can. A piece of something conductive falling in, a solder joint melts and bridges a couple of components, enough condensation, it can happen to anything electronic.

Great point enrayged.... I think what sets this situation apart however is the fact that it has been noted that there has been a special emphasis by customers placed upon how hot this particular unit runs... I actually feel that this Receiver doesnt run any hotter than my old Yamaha, but I wont ignore or disregard the fact that people have emphasized the heat output of this unit for some reason.

In doing so, I will take necessary precautions.... which is one of the reasons why I absolutely love this forum.
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post #1413 of 2810
4/14/09 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by tattootearz View Post

Great point enrayged.... I think what sets this situation apart however is the fact that it has been noted that there has been a special emphasis by customers placed upon how hot this particular unit runs... I actually feel that this Receiver doesnt run any hotter than my old Yamaha, but I wont ignore or disregard the fact that people have emphasized the heat output of this unit for some reason.

In doing so, I will take necessary precautions.... which is one of the reasons why I absolutely love this forum.


I am taking precautions as well, and I know some of last years models ran hot. Mine really dosent feel warmer than my older pioneer, and I had a technics that ran really hot and it even had a fan!
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post #1414 of 2810
4/14/09 at 11:19am
I've been running my 706 for about a month after owning the 605 for 1 year. I have run Audyssey a number of times after switching out some of my speakers. While very pleased with results - I do note that bass response on video sources - satellite TV, DVD's - seems more balanced than on audio - CD's when using PLII setting. Any one else experience similar results? Also wonder if Dynamic EQ can be disabled - or is this setting automatically implemented as part of Audyssey's MultEQ program?
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4/14/09 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

I've been running my 706 for about a month after owning the 605 for 1 year. I have run Audyssey a number of times after switching out some of my speakers. While very pleased with results - I do note that bass response on video sources - satellite TV, DVD's - seems more balanced than on audio - CD's when using PLII setting. Any one else experience similar results? Also wonder if Dynamic EQ can be disabled - or is this setting automatically implemented as part of Audyssey's MultEQ program?

To your first question no, but that could be due to DEQ, it does emphasize bass response. It could also be due to the source or mix.

Yes of course it can be disabled. This information is listed on page 69 and 70 of the manual. Press the Audio Button on the remote and scroll till you get to DynamicEQ.
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post #1416 of 2810
4/14/09 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by tattootearz View Post

Great point enrayged.... I think what sets this situation apart however is the fact that it has been noted that there has been a special emphasis by customers placed upon how hot this particular unit runs... I actually feel that this Receiver doesnt run any hotter than my old Yamaha, but I wont ignore or disregard the fact that people have emphasized the heat output of this unit for some reason.

In doing so, I will take necessary precautions.... which is one of the reasons why I absolutely love this forum.

It's not just this unit. It's several, actually most Onkyo Models. People seem to think they run hotter for some reason. I've had experience with HK, Pioneer, Cambridge Audio, Yamaha, Marantz, Onkyo and Denon. They all ran hot, some models more than others but it didn't seem to be brand specific. Bottom line is any analog AVR needs room to breath and if you don't give it that room you can and probably will run into issues or be shorting the life of the unit. A little logical thinking during placement goes a long way and given that you shouldn't have any heat related issues with any avr.
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4/14/09 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

I've been running my 706 for about a month after owning the 605 for 1 year. I have run Audyssey a number of times after switching out some of my speakers. While very pleased with results - I do note that bass response on video sources - satellite TV, DVD's - seems more balanced than on audio - CD's when using PLII setting. Any one else experience similar results? Also wonder if Dynamic EQ can be disabled - or is this setting automatically implemented as part of Audyssey's MultEQ program?

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Originally Posted by Jakeman02 View Post

To your first question no, but that could be due to DEQ, it does emphasize bass response. It could also be due to the source or mix.

Yes of course it can be disabled. This information is listed on page 69 and 70 of the manual. Press the Audio Button on the remote and scroll till you get to DynamicEQ.

All movie soundtracks are mixed to a specific standard, while music CD's are not. Because of that, Dynamic EQ can be all over the place. Dynamic EQ was designed to work with that movie standard. Lots of discussion of this in the Audesey thread
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post #1418 of 2810
4/14/09 at 4:03pm
When I played DVDs from my standard def DVD player to my CRT TV the picture was fine. Now I have the player going into the receiver's DVD input via S-video and out HDMI to my Samsung LN52A650 HDTV and the contrast is greatly exaggerated to the point that I can hardly watch movies. Somewhat dark scenes are nearly completely black.

I've fiddled with all kinds of adjustments and cannot seem to fix this. Has anyone else solved behavior like this before?

I've tried HDMI passthrough and also output 1080i. I've reset the picture adjustments to default values for the DVD input. If I adjust the brightness and contrast settings for DVD input then it just seems to make the picture look like a bad Photoshop effect and true blacks are elevated to a dark gray.

My HD TiVo goes through the receiver as well without mucking up the contrast or black levels.

Thank you in advance for your suggestions.

Update: I connected the DVD player directly to the TV via S-video and the black levels were much better and the colors were more accurate. Through the TX-SR706 faces are a bit orange. Again, I tried adjusting the picture and with the best brightness and contrast it doesn't look as nice as direct to the TV.
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post #1419 of 2810
4/14/09 at 6:18pm
I have reviewed the thoughtful responses to my original question regarding active/deactive Dynamic EQ & had also reviewed the manual (although I find no reference to Dynamic EQ on p.69 - 70) At the risk of sounding dense - I'm unable to scroll through my audio options & find any indication that Dynamic EQ is on or off - so I would appreciate any step by step info to guide me through the process.
I have read through the Audyssey thread & am familiar with the various concerns regarding Dynamic EQ - so I am thankful for any additional guidance!
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post #1420 of 2810
4/14/09 at 9:23pm
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Originally Posted by iMinnesotan View Post

When I played DVDs from my standard def DVD player to my CRT TV the picture was fine. Now I have the player going into the receiver's DVD input via S-video and out HDMI to my Samsung LN52A650 HDTV and the contrast is greatly exaggerated to the point that I can hardly watch movies. Somewhat dark scenes are nearly completely black.

I've fiddled with all kinds of adjustments and cannot seem to fix this. Has anyone else solved behavior like this before?

I've tried HDMI passthrough and also output 1080i. I've reset the picture adjustments to default values for the DVD input. If I adjust the brightness and contrast settings for DVD input then it just seems to make the picture look like a bad Photoshop effect and true blacks are elevated to a dark gray.

My HD TiVo goes through the receiver as well without mucking up the contrast or black levels.

Thank you in advance for your suggestions.

Update: I connected the DVD player directly to the TV via S-video and the black levels were much better and the colors were more accurate. Through the TX-SR706 faces are a bit orange. Again, I tried adjusting the picture and with the best brightness and contrast it doesn't look as nice as direct to the TV.

Are you able to drop the S video connection in favor of a component or HDMI?
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post #1421 of 2810
4/14/09 at 9:54pm
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

I have reviewed the thoughtful responses to my original question regarding active/deactive Dynamic EQ & had also reviewed the manual (although I find no reference to Dynamic EQ on p.69 - 70) At the risk of sounding dense - I'm unable to scroll through my audio options & find any indication that Dynamic EQ is on or off - so I would appreciate any step by step info to guide me through the process.
I have read through the Audyssey thread & am familiar with the various concerns regarding Dynamic EQ - so I am thankful for any additional guidance!

Dynamic EQ is described on page 84 of the owner's manual under "Adjust Using AUDIO Button" (page 83). It explains that Dynamic EQ is available ONLY when "Equalizer Settings" is set to "Audyssey" (page 78) and is mutually exclusive with "THX Loudness Plus" (page 80). If THX Loudness Plus is selected, Dynamic EQ is NOT available, even if the Equalizer is set to Audyssey. Similarly, THX Loudness Plus is NOT available if Dynamic EQ is selected.

Personally, I find Dynamic EQ to be of limited use in that its performance is guaranteed ONLY when playing back movies. THX Loudness Plus works equally well for movies, tv, and music, and is my choice for loudness compensation.
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post #1422 of 2810
4/14/09 at 10:03pm
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

I have reviewed the thoughtful responses to my original question regarding active/deactive Dynamic EQ & had also reviewed the manual (although I find no reference to Dynamic EQ on p.69 - 70) At the risk of sounding dense - I'm unable to scroll through my audio options & find any indication that Dynamic EQ is on or off - so I would appreciate any step by step info to guide me through the process.
I have read through the Audyssey thread & am familiar with the various concerns regarding Dynamic EQ - so I am thankful for any additional guidance!

My bad, it's page 83-84, I have no clue where I came up with the previous page numbers. Make sure the remote is in receiver mode by pressing receiver on the remote, it's right above volume and mute. Then press the "Audio" and scroll up and down using the round scroll button. Dynamic EQ should be there as well as other options. Also note that Dynamic EQ will not show up and is not selectable unless you have Audyssey enabled in the EQ menu.
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4/14/09 at 10:04pm
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Originally Posted by iMinnesotan View Post

When I played DVDs from my standard def DVD player to my CRT TV the picture was fine. Now I have the player going into the receiver's DVD input via S-video and out HDMI to my Samsung LN52A650 HDTV and the contrast is greatly exaggerated to the point that I can hardly watch movies. Somewhat dark scenes are nearly completely black.

I've fiddled with all kinds of adjustments and cannot seem to fix this. Has anyone else solved behavior like this before?

I've tried HDMI passthrough and also output 1080i. I've reset the picture adjustments to default values for the DVD input. If I adjust the brightness and contrast settings for DVD input then it just seems to make the picture look like a bad Photoshop effect and true blacks are elevated to a dark gray.

My HD TiVo goes through the receiver as well without mucking up the contrast or black levels.

Thank you in advance for your suggestions.

Update: I connected the DVD player directly to the TV via S-video and the black levels were much better and the colors were more accurate. Through the TX-SR706 faces are a bit orange. Again, I tried adjusting the picture and with the best brightness and contrast it doesn't look as nice as direct to the TV.

You are cross-converting from S-Video (the only thing of worse quality is composite video) to HDMI AND you are upconverting from 480i/p to 1080i/p. I have not seen a review of the video conversion capabilities of the 706, but if memory serves me, the 806 that was tested by Home Theater did not receive high marks for its video processing.

If S-Video is the best your DVD player can output, pick up the Monster calibration DVD and properly adjust that input for best performance (page 88 of the owner's manual). Or you could always just run the S-video to the tv all the time and a digital audio output from the DVD player to the 706.
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post #1424 of 2810
4/14/09 at 10:07pm
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Originally Posted by Jakeman02 View Post

My bad, it's page 83-84, I have no clue where I came up with the previous page numbers. Make sure the remote is in receiver mode by pressing receiver on the remote, it's right above volume and mute. Then press the "Audio" and scroll up and down using the round scroll button. Dynamic EQ should be there as well as other options. Also note that Dynamic EQ will not show up and is not selectable unless you have Audyssey enabled in the EQ menu.

Dynamic EQ will also not show up if THX Loudness Plus is selected per my post directly above yours.
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post #1425 of 2810
4/15/09 at 7:24am
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Originally Posted by Jakeman02 View Post

My bad, it's page 83-84, I have no clue where I came up with the previous page numbers. Make sure the remote is in receiver mode by pressing receiver on the remote, it's right above volume and mute. Then press the "Audio" and scroll up and down using the round scroll button. Dynamic EQ should be there as well as other options. Also note that Dynamic EQ will not show up and is not selectable unless you have Audyssey enabled in the EQ menu.

Jakeman & Bluesky - thanks for your most helpful advice. I finally located the Dynamic EQ function & have turned it off! I'll try the THX Loudness function - but for now will see how things sound without any Loudness compensation. I've had stereo/AV equipment for 40+ years & thought I had read the manual carefully- but it always helps to have access to people with hands on knowledge - thanks again for your assistance!
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post #1426 of 2810
4/15/09 at 7:57am
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

I've been running my 706 for about a month after owning the 605 for 1 year. I have run Audyssey a number of times after switching out some of my speakers. While very pleased with results - I do note that bass response on video sources - satellite TV, DVD's - seems more balanced than on audio - CD's when using PLII setting. Any one else experience similar results? Also wonder if Dynamic EQ can be disabled - or is this setting automatically implemented as part of Audyssey's MultEQ program?

Have you tried listening modes other than PLII Music? There may be one you prefer over PLII.
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post #1427 of 2810
4/15/09 at 11:15am
I'm not convinced that my 706 that Caught on fire was induced by the unit running hot. however, I do think that as someone else pointed out soldering or another weak link failed in the system. Weather heat was the sole cause of that or not is not known. I guess the fire was the result of a electrical short and not the cause of a short. I have read many people commenting on Onkyo running hotter than most competitors and there are several reports of Onkyo catching fire so maybe there is a link. I guess i would think Onkyo would want to investigate this further.

I guess my disappointment was Onkyo's indifference to this type of situation and the hazard that it could present. My local service shop informed me that i should immediately contact Onkyo about the fire rather than just send it to them. The local service rep thought that it was a big liability (their words not mine) and that Onkyo would want to know about it. Well Onkyo could have cared less, or at least the service rep i contacted. I was fortunate that i had just found this AVS forum that documented a similar problem with other Onkyo models.

Anyone else have this happen with their Onkyo??
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4/15/09 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

I have reviewed the thoughtful responses to my original question regarding active/deactive Dynamic EQ & had also reviewed the manual (although I find no reference to Dynamic EQ on p.69 - 70) At the risk of sounding dense - I'm unable to scroll through my audio options & find any indication that Dynamic EQ is on or off - so I would appreciate any step by step info to guide me through the process.
I have read through the Audyssey thread & am familiar with the various concerns regarding Dynamic EQ - so I am thankful for any additional guidance!

Select "Receiver" on your remote. Click the "Audio" button just below the D-pad in the middle of the remote. Click the down arrow 4 times on the D-pad and you should be looking at the setting for Dynamic EQ. Click left or right to toggle it on or off.
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4/15/09 at 6:57pm
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

Are you able to drop the S video connection in favor of a component or HDMI?

It's an older DVD player, so no HDMI. I plan to get a blue-ray player eventually but since I really don't need one now I'm holding out for prices to drop. I'll just deal with the lousy quality for now. Too bad it can't match the upconversion quality of the TV itself.
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4/16/09 at 9:21am
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Originally Posted by iMinnesotan View Post

It's an older DVD player, so no HDMI. I plan to get a blue-ray player eventually but since I really don't need one now I'm holding out for prices to drop. I'll just deal with the lousy quality for now. Too bad it can't match the upconversion quality of the TV itself.

Really? No component either? I had a DirecTV DVR that was connected with an S cable--I was pleased with the upconversion.

Good luck.
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4/16/09 at 9:45am
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Originally Posted by bluesky636 View Post

I have not seen a review of the video conversion capabilities of the 706, but if memory serves me, the 806 that was tested by Home Theater did not receive high marks for its video processing.

From Sound & Vision if interested.

"Tests made with my Oppo DV-980H DVD player sending standard-def 480i signals to the Onkyo showed clean, artifact-free 1080p video coming from the SR706’s HDMI output."

Sound & Vision's 2008 Editors' Choice Awards

"The Onkyo’s Faroudja DCDi video processing does very solid work upconverting standard-def video to the 1080p format over HDMI"

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/fea...t-1-page4.html
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post #1432 of 2810
4/16/09 at 12:56pm
So, whats the best deal on the 706 right now, and not from a shady retailer. It seems everywhere on-line has the 706 back in the 700 dollar range and higher?? Whats the deal? Any suggestions or thoughts of why price increases. I know most HT receivers decrease in price around fall it seems.....but I missed out then!
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4/16/09 at 1:07pm
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Originally Posted by cyberguy34 View Post

So, whats the best deal on the 706 right now, and not from a shady retailer. It seems everywhere on-line has the 706 back in the 700 dollar range and higher?? Whats the deal? Any suggestions or thoughts of why price increases. I know most HT receivers decrease in price around fall it seems.....but I missed out then!

Try this link: $569 + Shipping
http://www.fotoconnection.com/p99190...-receiver.html
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4/16/09 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by tattootearz View Post

...I cant wait to convert my 5.1 setup to 7.1!!!.....

did it last night!









After running Audyssey in all 6 positions; So far, so good in terms of sound.
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post #1435 of 2810
4/16/09 at 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by tattootearz View Post

did it last night!

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After running Audyssey in all 6 positions; So far, so good in terms of sound.

You might want to consider mounting your side and rear surrounds higher up on the walls if at all possible. You'll get much better dispersion and surround "effect." As close as they are to the couch, I'm willing to bet that Audyssey has the gain on the surrounds set really low which is not always good.

Of course, if you LIKE having them blasting into your ears, they are set up prefectly.
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post #1436 of 2810
4/16/09 at 9:37pm
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did it last night!



After running Audyssey in all 6 positions; So far, so good in terms of sound.

Do you have your sub placed in the next room?
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4/16/09 at 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by cyberguy34 View Post

So, whats the best deal on the 706 right now, and not from a shady retailer. It seems everywhere on-line has the 706 back in the 700 dollar range and higher?? Whats the deal? Any suggestions or thoughts of why price increases. I know most HT receivers decrease in price around fall it seems.....but I missed out then!

Check the Onkyo site for authorized dealers and then take some time to make some phone calls. You can usually get a better deal over the phone, make sure you call J&R they are usually among or the lowest in pricing.
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4/16/09 at 11:01pm
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

Do you have your sub placed in the next room?

Oh, no..... thats an old 15" Cerwin Vega sub my brother gave me a few years back.... it has a blown driver so I put it in that corner until I can remember to take it downstairs to toss out... with what that thing weighs, I am in no hurry lol...
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4/16/09 at 11:41pm
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Originally Posted by tattootearz View Post

Oh, no..... thats an old 15" Cerwin Vega sub my brother gave me a few years back.... it has a blown driver so I put it in that corner until I can remember to take it downstairs to toss out... with what that thing weighs, I am in no hurry lol...

Whew! Glad you explained. I knew Audyssey was good, but .....
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4/17/09 at 5:52am
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Originally Posted by iMinnesotan View Post

It's an older DVD player, so no HDMI. I plan to get a blue-ray player eventually but since I really don't need one now I'm holding out for prices to drop. I'll just deal with the lousy quality for now. Too bad it can't match the upconversion quality of the TV itself.

You can get an HDMI upconverting DVD player for $50. But if you want to keep the current one, try setting your 706 HDMI upconvert resolution to 480p or 720p to see if the picture improves. Your TV will bump it to 1080 anyway.
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