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post #2311 of 2810
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Originally Posted by Merlin803 View Post

HAPPY THANKSGIVING ALL!

I am hoping for a little help (sorry, I read a few pages but this thread is huge and I need to make a quick decision...)

I currently have a 605 and am looking at possibly getting a refurb 706 for about $460 and have a few questions:

Is the audyssey process better on the 706 than the 605?

Yes.

Should I notice a decent difference between the receivers? (see my speakers below)

Probably.

Does this seem like a decent price?

yes.

I have all AV123 speakers: "Bigfoot" center, 750 fronts, RSS300 surrounds and a MFW-15 sub.


Thanks for your help!

Enjoy your day.
post #2312 of 2810
Thanks guys! Enjoy your Turkeys
post #2313 of 2810
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Originally Posted by eeddings View Post

Wow! $369 for a 706 (refurb)!

This was too good a deal to pass up-I've got an older Marantz receiver with pre-outs that I use to integrate home theater into a music based system (Vandersteen 2CE fronts, Quicksilver mono tube amps, Athena center channel and Mirage in ceiling surrounds), and the Onkyo will allow me to upgrade to the latest audio codecs (the latest models don't have pre-outs).
post #2314 of 2810
Is it normal when turning on the system for audio to cut in and out and video to flicker before it all settles down? It takes at least ten seconds for my system to go through this ritual each time I turn it on.

I have all HDMI connections from TiVo HX XL -> TX-RS706 -> Samsung LN52A650 HDTV. The TiVo is configured for fixed 1080i output, so no switching of resolutions. The receiver is set for HDMI passthrough. I plan to add an Oppo blu ray player soon so I don't want to fix the HDMI output on the receiver.

I assume that there is some communication going on between all components when I first turn on the system. Does anyone know of settings to try between the HDTV and receiver to minimize this flickering, or is this pretty much normal?

Thank you for your replies.
post #2315 of 2810
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Originally Posted by iMinnesotan View Post

Is it normal when turning on the system for audio to cut in and out and video to flicker before it all settles down? It takes at least ten seconds for my system to go through this ritual each time I turn it on.

I have all HDMI connections from TiVo HX XL -> TX-RS706 -> Samsung LN52A650 HDTV. The TiVo is configured for fixed 1080i output, so no switching of resolutions. The receiver is set for HDMI passthrough. I plan to add an Oppo blu ray player soon so I don't want to fix the HDMI output on the receiver.

I assume that there is some communication going on between all components when I first turn on the system. Does anyone know of settings to try between the HDTV and receiver to minimize this flickering, or is this pretty much normal?

Thank you for your replies.

That is the HDMI handshake occurring between all the active, connected components. Nothing you can do about it except live with it.
post #2316 of 2810
Bluesky,
I changed the speaker setting to 4 Ohms with no luck still trips off line, I believe you are correct about the speaker setup I don't think the 706 works well with the HTI88 (I read complaints about the HTI88 before I purchased it) so I purchased this Amp Dayton SA100 100W Subwoofer Amplifier, when I receive I will let everyone know if it worked. I'm trying to convert a small closet into a stereo system man the Onkyo gets hot still haven't figured out how to vent the closet yet. Happy Thanksgiving. Stu
post #2317 of 2810
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Originally Posted by stuiegg View Post

Bluesky,
I changed the speaker setting to 4 Ohms with no luck still trips off line, I believe you are correct about the speaker setup I don't think the 706 works well with the HTI88 (I read complaints about the HTI88 before I purchased it) so I purchased this Amp Dayton SA100 100W Subwoofer Amplifier, when I receive I will let everyone know if it worked. I'm trying to convert a small closet into a stereo system man the Onkyo gets hot still haven't figured out how to vent the closet yet. Happy Thanksgiving. Stu

Well, that could be a big part of your problem right there. Should have mentioned this earlier. How much space do you have around the 706? How much room is in the closet total? What other equipment is in the closet?

As far as venting the closet goes, cut a retangular opening in the bottom of the door and put a heater wall vent cover over it. Cut another openng near the top of the door, or the wall above the door if space is available, and mount a small fan in the opening. Cover that opening with a vent cover also. Set the fan up so that it draws air from the bottom opening, up through the closet, and out the top opening.
post #2318 of 2810
Been keeping up with this thread for about the last 8 months and thanks to all for your posts. Since I got my 706 I have ran into a couple of problems that I haven't seen on here and hopefully someone can help.

1. Recently when unplugged for a duration (day or two) and then I go to use it and all of my audio is delayed by about 1.5 seconds, very noticeable and the only way to fix it is to do a 'clear' and reset everything and then everything is back to normal.

2. If I hit the mute button the volume hits max and scares the crap outta me and almost breaks my ear drums (this problem since I got it)

The setup is just a PS3 and 7.1 surround Energy's via HDMI Epson projector.

I have not done any updates to the receiver since getting it about a year or so ago just cause I'm not exactly sure how to and if it is really needed.
post #2319 of 2810
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Originally Posted by PJ311 View Post

Been keeping up with this thread for about the last 8 months and thanks to all for your posts. Since I got my 706 I have ran into a couple of problems that I haven't seen on here and hopefully someone can help.

1. Recently when unplugged for a duration (day or two) and then I go to use it and all of my audio is delayed by about 1.5 seconds, very noticeable and the only way to fix it is to do a 'clear' and reset everything and then everything is back to normal.

2. If I hit the mute button the volume hits max and scares the crap outta me and almost breaks my ear drums (this problem since I got it)

The setup is just a PS3 and 7.1 surround Energy's via HDMI Epson projector.

I have not done any updates to the receiver since getting it about a year or so ago just cause I'm not exactly sure how to and if it is really needed.

Not sure what reset you are doing but this is the one from the owner's manual:

To reset the AV receiver/AV amplifier to its factory defaults, turn it on and, while holding down the [VCR/DVR] button, press the [ON/STANDBY] button.
Clear will appear on the display and the AV receiver/AV amplifier will enter Standby mode. Note that resetting the AV receiver/AV amplifier will
delete your radio presets and custom settings.


I seem to recall someone else complaining about the mute going to max volume and the advice/fix I believe was a complete reset. If this doesn't work, call Onkyo.

There have been no firmware updates to the 706 since it was introduced according to Onkyo's website.
post #2320 of 2810
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Originally Posted by bluesky636 View Post

Not sure what reset you are doing but this is the one from the owner's manual:

To reset the AV receiver/AV amplifier to its factory defaults, turn it on and, while holding down the [VCR/DVR] button, press the [ON/STANDBY] button.
Clear will appear on the display and the AV receiver/AV amplifier will enter Standby mode. Note that resetting the AV receiver/AV amplifier will
delete your radio presets and custom settings.


I seem to recall someone else complaining about the mute going to max volume and the advice/fix I believe was a complete reset. If this doesn't work, call Onkyo.

There have been no firmware updates to the 706 since it was introduced according to Onkyo's website.

Yes this is the correct reset that I am doing as per manual, and I placed my question in the wrong forum as I have the 705 but was reading the 706 forum looking for a possible fix here as I couldn't find it in the 705 forum. I'll place my question over there with hopes of a solution.
post #2321 of 2810
Ok here I go.....
I just sent my SR706 out to get fixed for the Blue dot issue on the left side of my screen when playing my PS3 or watching a BluRay. I got it back and everything looked pretty good UNTIL first I noticed when viewing any source over 720p that my OSD would not display...then I watched a GI Joe on Bluray and noticed that ANY time there was a bright light or a very bright anything on the screen all around the bright light it would.....Bloom...I guess that's the best way I can describe it. It also was the same way when I watched Transformers on Directv. So it wasn't just the PS3 but also my satellite. Here is what it would look like if the bright light was the Zero:

--------0-------

It actually stretches the light, man it looks bad! Has anyone else who has sent their 706 out to get fixed ran into a similar problem? I'll ask here first before I call Onkyo.
post #2322 of 2810
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Originally Posted by wolfsburg2002 View Post

Ok here I go.....
I just sent my SR706 out to get fixed for the Blue dot issue on the left side of my screen when playing my PS3 or watching a BluRay. I got it back and everything looked pretty good UNTIL first I noticed when viewing any source over 720p that my OSD would not display...then I watched a GI Joe on Bluray and noticed that ANY time there was a bright light or a very bright anything on the screen all around the bright light it would.....Bloom...I guess that's the best way I can describe it. It also was the same way when I watched Transformers on Directv. So it wasn't just the PS3 but also my satellite. Here is what it would look like if the bright light was the Zero:

--------0-------

It actually stretches the light, man it looks bad! Has anyone else who has sent their 706 out to get fixed ran into a similar problem? I'll ask here first before I call Onkyo.

Page 88 of the owner's manual. Check to make sure none of the picture adjustments are wacked out, particularly contrast.
post #2323 of 2810
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Originally Posted by bluesky636 View Post

Page 88 of the owner's manual. Check to make sure none of the picture adjustments are wacked out, particularly contrast.


They are all set properly.....I will try to take a picture of it tonight. I checked all the settings on my TV and they are all good too.
post #2324 of 2810
Well I just bought one of these off the accessories4less site and got the 3yr extended warranty and must say I am sync'd to put this in my new HT room!!
post #2325 of 2810
So...my order from accessories4less arrived, and as I loaded the box into the trunk of my car, I marveled at how heavy the thing is-then I noticed the model number on the box, TX-SR876

I haven't cracked the seal on the shipping carton, though-it's going to have to go back. I checked the specs online of the 876, and that sucker just won't fit in my home entertainment console.
post #2326 of 2810
I now have 7.1 setup running. I ran Audyssey and all speakers recognized without problem. However, I am only getting the rear channel speakers when a 7.1 BD is inserted. If I put in a source material that is 5.1 only, I don;t get the rear channels. I tried setting the listening mode to PLIIX and DD PLus, but that didnt fix it.

Can anyone help?
Thanks!
post #2327 of 2810
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Originally Posted by eeddings View Post

I now have 7.1 setup running. I ran Audyssey and all speakers recognized without problem. However, I am only getting the rear channel speakers when a 7.1 BD is inserted. If I put in a source material that is 5.1 only, I don;t get the rear channels. I tried setting the listening mode to PLIIX and DD PLus, but that didnt fix it.

Can anyone help?
Thanks!

That is correct. You will only get 7.1 channels when either the source is 7.1 or you play a 5.1 source augmented by DPL IIX, DTS NEO:6, or THX Select 2 Cinema. If the front panel display shows all 8 speaker boxes with speaker names in them, you are playing a true 7.1 source. If the display shows all 8 speaker boxes, but the back surround boxes are empty and you have one of the post processing functions selected as I listed them, you are playing 7.1 channels with synthesized back surround channels. As long as you heard the Audyssey bleeps, the back channels are working. None of the surround channels are supposed to be as obvious as the front 3 channels unless there is something happening in them.
post #2328 of 2810
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Originally Posted by bluesky636 View Post

That is correct. You will only get 7.1 channels when either the source is 7.1 or you play a 5.1 source augmented by DPL IIX, DTS NEO:6, or THX Select 2 Cinema. If the front panel display shows all 8 speaker boxes with speaker names in them, you are playing a true 7.1 source. If the display shows all 8 speaker boxes, but the back surround boxes are empty and you have one of the post processing functions selected as I listed them, you are playing 7.1 channels with synthesized back surround channels. As long as you heard the Audyssey bleeps, the back channels are working. None of the surround channels are supposed to be as obvious as the front 3 channels unless there is something happening in them.

Thanks Bluesky, I knew you'd have the answers I needed. The speakers not lighting up in the boxes on the front of the receiver really threw me for a loop, but when I changed to 2.0 channel source material and only the FL and FR were lit up inside the boxes on teh front, that gave me an idea what has happening.

I could change to all-channel stereo and hear them all dominantly. I may try THX Select 2 cinema.

What listening modes do you prefer on your setup, for 2.0, 5.1 source, and DDHD and DTSHD?

BTW, 7.1 Channel on The Golden Compass... wow. I briefly watched a part of it to test the setup. I'm going to go watch it in its entirety now.
post #2329 of 2810
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Originally Posted by eeddings View Post

Thanks Bluesky, I knew you'd have the answers I needed. The speakers not lighting up in the boxes on the front of the receiver really threw me for a loop, but when I changed to 2.0 channel source material and only the FL and FR were lit up inside the boxes on teh front, that gave me an idea what has happening.

I could change to all-channel stereo and hear them all dominantly. I may try THX Select 2 cinema.

What listening modes do you prefer on your setup, for 2.0, 5.1 source, and DDHD and DTSHD?

BTW, 7.1 Channel on The Golden Compass... wow. I briefly watched a part of it to test the setup. I'm going to go watch it in its entirety now.

Yup, that's how it works.

I use DPL IIX THX Cinema and DPL IIX THX Music exclusively. I have tried Select 2 Cinema and did not like it. See this thread for a thorough discussion of the subject:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...+select+cinema
post #2330 of 2810
I picked up a 706 last week and have ran into a problem that is kind of hard to describe but here goes...

The video only sometimes has a brief "studder". I have noticed this on both DVD's and Direct TV feeds and it only happens every once in a while and where I have really noticed it was a couple times on cartoons where their mouths are moving.

Both sources are connected to the 706 via HDMI and then to my RPTV via HDMI. Before this receiver, I had a Onkyo 605 with everything connected the same way and never saw this.

Is their any settings on the 706 that could cause this type of thing?

Thanks!
post #2331 of 2810
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Originally Posted by Merlin803 View Post

I picked up a 706 last week and have ran into a problem that is kind of hard to describe but here goes...

The video only sometimes has a brief "studder". I have noticed this on both DVD's and Direct TV feeds and it only happens every once in a while and where I have really noticed it was a couple times on cartoons where their mouths are moving.

Both sources are connected to the 706 via HDMI and then to my RPTV via HDMI. Before this receiver, I had a Onkyo 605 with everything connected the same way and never saw this.

Is their any settings on the 706 that could cause this type of thing?

Thanks!

Well, first you need to tell us what your settings are now. Is the HDMI set for pass through or are you upconverting in the 706? What is the output resolution of your sources?

If you are seeing a disconnect between lips moving and audio, that could be a lip sync problem. The 706 can compensate if the tv supports it. Or you just add in a fixed audio delay. This is all in the owner's manual.
post #2332 of 2810
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Originally Posted by bluesky636 View Post

Well, first you need to tell us what your settings are now. Is the HDMI set for pass through or are you upconverting in the 706? What is the output resolution of your sources?

If you are seeing a disconnect between lips moving and audio, that could be a lip sync problem. The 706 can compensate if the tv supports it. Or you just add in a fixed audio delay. This is all in the owner's manual.

It is set for pass through. I didn't think it was a lip sync problem because 99% of the time it is fine but every once in a while their is just a brief video "shudder" that is not the whole screen but one section of it.

Wouldn't a lip sync problem be a consistent problem?

I also noticed this while playing Rock Band on the XB360 which is connected to the 706 via component and then to the TV via HDMI.
post #2333 of 2810
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Originally Posted by Merlin803 View Post

It is set for pass through. I didn't think it was a lip sync problem because 99% of the time it is fine but every once in a while their is just a brief video "shudder" that is not the whole screen but one section of it.

Wouldn't a lip sync problem be a consistent problem?

I also noticed this while playing Rock Band on the XB360 which is connected to the 706 via component and then to the TV via HDMI.

If the 706 is set to passthrough, it is doing just that. This could be a frame rate conversion error or other a deinterlacing problem between the tv and your source, or other similar things. It could also be an HDMI handshake issue, but I doubt that. Really need to know more about your system configuration.
post #2334 of 2810
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Originally Posted by bluesky636 View Post

If the 706 is set to passthrough, it is doing just that. This could be a frame rate conversion error or other a deinterlacing problem between the tv and your source, or other similar things. It could also be an HDMI handshake issue, but I doubt that. Really need to know more about your system configuration.

Here is the HDMI settings on the 706:

Output Resolution: Through
Zoom mode: Auto
Film Mode: Auto
Audio TV Out: Off
Lip Sync: Disable
x.v. Color: Disable
Control: Disable
Power Control: Disable
TV Control: Disable

A/V Sync: 0 msec
Picture adjust settings all at 0 (Edge Enhancement, hue.....etc)
Noise Reduction set to Off

TV is a Toshiba 65H84 RPTV (native 1080i) w/ the following settings:
Display Format: 1080i
Cinema Mode: Film
Auto Aspect: Off
post #2335 of 2810
I have been searching through this very long thread with no luck, Tommorow cable company will connect HD DVR cable box for me, I was wondering cable to DRV and then on to TV hdmi connection, when SR706 is off will video and sound pass throught? Cant find answer, I guess I will find out tommorow but just wanted to know ahead out time.
Any help Thanks
post #2336 of 2810
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Originally Posted by samuelk View Post

I have been searching through this very long thread with no luck, Tommorow cable company will connect HD DVR cable box for me, I was wondering cable to DRV and then on to TV hdmi connection, when SR706 is off will video and sound pass throught? Cant find answer, I guess I will find out tommorow but just wanted to know ahead out time.
Any help Thanks

If your DVR is connected to the Onkyo, the receiver has to be on to send the signal to your TV.
post #2337 of 2810
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Originally Posted by eeddings View Post

If your DVR is connected to the Onkyo, the receiver has to be on to send the signal to your TV.

Thanks for the quick answer...
post #2338 of 2810
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Originally Posted by Merlin803 View Post

Here is the HDMI settings on the 706:

Output Resolution: Through
Zoom mode: Auto
Film Mode: Auto
Audio TV Out: Off
Lip Sync: Disable
x.v. Color: Disable
Control: Disable
Power Control: Disable
TV Control: Disable

A/V Sync: 0 msec
Picture adjust settings all at 0 (Edge Enhancement, hue.....etc)
Noise Reduction set to Off

TV is a Toshiba 65H84 RPTV (native 1080i) w/ the following settings:
Display Format: 1080i
Cinema Mode: Film
Auto Aspect: Off

Have you tried adjusting the Output Resolution on your 706 to 1080i to match your display?
post #2339 of 2810
well my SR706 just arrived this morning!! just ordered my HDMI 1.3a cables and they should be here on wednesday...Getting excited to hear my new setup!!
post #2340 of 2810
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Originally Posted by Merlin803 View Post

Here is the HDMI settings on the 706:

Output Resolution: Through
Zoom mode: Auto
Film Mode: Auto
Audio TV Out: Off
Lip Sync: Disable
x.v. Color: Disable
Control: Disable
Power Control: Disable
TV Control: Disable

A/V Sync: 0 msec
Picture adjust settings all at 0 (Edge Enhancement, hue.....etc)
Noise Reduction set to Off

TV is a Toshiba 65H84 RPTV (native 1080i) w/ the following settings:
Display Format: 1080i
Cinema Mode: Film
Auto Aspect: Off

Ok. Now what are your SOURCE resolutions set to?
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