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post #2341 of 2810
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

Have you tried adjusting the Output Resolution on your 706 to 1080i to match your display?

Set to THROUGH the 706 will be passing through the output resolution of the sources with no video processing. I'm going to guess that the older 1080i Toshiba is having problems converting the output resolutions of the sources. The video processing of the 706 is probably better than the Toshiba's so having the 706 do the conversion may work better.
post #2342 of 2810
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Originally Posted by bluesky636 View Post

Set to THROUGH the 706 will be passing through the output resolution of the sources with no video processing. I'm going to guess that the older 1080i Toshiba is having problems converting the output resolutions of the sources. The video processing of the 706 is probably better than the Toshiba's so having the 706 do the conversion may work better.

I agree.
post #2343 of 2810
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

I agree.

Ok guys, my source outputs are set to 1080i. I will try switching the 706 to 1080i instead of "Through" and see how that works.

Thanks for the suggestion!
post #2344 of 2810
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Originally Posted by Merlin803 View Post

Ok guys, my source outputs are set to 1080i. I will try switching the 706 to 1080i instead of "Through" and see how that works.

Thanks for the suggestion!

If that is the case, it won't matter as the 706 is passing 1080i through to the tv. Setting the 706 to 1080i and feeding it a 1080i input does nothing. But hey, give it a try.
post #2345 of 2810
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Originally Posted by bluesky636 View Post

If that is the case, it won't matter as the 706 is passing 1080i through to the tv. Setting the 706 to 1080i and feeding it a 1080i input does nothing. But hey, give it a try.

So far, so good. Have not noticed the problem once since making the change (and neither has my family). Hopefully it won't rear it's ugly head again, lol.
post #2346 of 2810
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Originally Posted by Merlin803 View Post

So far, so good. Have not noticed the problem once since making the change (and neither has my family). Hopefully it won't rear it's ugly head again, lol.

I would switch back and forth a couple of times as there is no technical reason that this should make a difference. In fact, if it did make a real difference, I would suspect that there is an actual problem with HDMI Through mode.
post #2347 of 2810
I just got mine tonight and started to play with it for a few minutes and I hooked up the FM indoor antenna and 2 speakers (L and R fronts) and when I would turn the 706 on it would stay on for about 20 sec then just turn off. I read in the manual about the quick shutoff in the troubleshooting section and said to leave it off for an hour. Well I did that and as soon as I cut it on it turned off again. Guess I will mess with this tomorrow again.

Never seen a receiver do this before...very odd to me.
post #2348 of 2810
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Originally Posted by todd03blown View Post

I just got mine tonight and started to play with it for a few minutes and I hooked up the FM indoor antenna and 2 speakers (L and R fronts) and when I would turn the 706 on it would stay on for about 20 sec then just turn off. I read in the manual about the quick shutoff in the troubleshooting section and said to leave it off for an hour. Well I did that and as soon as I cut it on it turned off again. Guess I will mess with this tomorrow again.

Never seen a receiver do this before...very odd to me.

Sounds like it is going into protection mode. Check to be sure you do not have any speaker wire strands shorting out the output terminals. Check amp and speaker ends of the wire.
post #2349 of 2810
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Originally Posted by bluesky636 View Post

Sounds like it is going into protection mode. Check to be sure you do not have any speaker wire strands shorting out the output terminals. Check amp and speaker ends of the wire.

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Originally Posted by todd03blown View Post

I just got mine tonight and started to play with it for a few minutes and I hooked up the FM indoor antenna and 2 speakers (L and R fronts) and when I would turn the 706 on it would stay on for about 20 sec then just turn off. I read in the manual about the quick shutoff in the troubleshooting section and said to leave it off for an hour. Well I did that and as soon as I cut it on it turned off again. Guess I will mess with this tomorrow again.

Never seen a receiver do this before...very odd to me.

What is the nominal impedance of your speakers?
post #2350 of 2810
I purchased a TX-SR706 around a couple of months ago and so far, it seems decent, but I will be getting warranty work done on it at a local authorized Onkyo service center soon. The volume knob doesn't work. Apart from that, I've had a handful of video problems that I have so far only noticed when watching cable TV, with many of the symptoms similar to what Merlin803 experienced in post #2337. The receiver is connected to my Samsung LN52A540 TV via HDMI, and the cable box is connected to the receiver via HDMI. I also have a PS3 connected via HDMI, Wii connected via component, and my laptop docking station connected via VGA and RCAs. I won't declare the video issues to be a problem just yet until I test out more sources to isolate the causes. On rare occasion, I notice what is best described as a framerate drop for a brief second or two while watching cable. In that brief moment, the video seems to play in slow motion. It's very noticeable during football games when it happens. I've also noticed that Family Guy on TBS (but not FOX) will sometimes tear like v-sync is off when playing computer games, but looking at the TX-SR706's manual online just now, I see a film mode setting under the HDMI setup that I need to double check when I get home. It's currently either Auto or Off and I don't remember which. All other HDMI settings are default according to the manual.

So as to not alarm anybody just yet, I will also be testing a few other video sources as well, including DVD and hopefully borrowing a Blu-ray from someone, and provide an update on my findings. I can confirm that no such "framerate drop" problem seems to exist with the PS3 when playing Metal Gear Solid 4 or when using the Wii or PC.

I've yet to get my home theater working in full swing, so there's little else I can say about evaluating the TX-SR706 otherwise. I still have surround speakers that need to be hooked up, which won't happen until I get the in-wall wiring done, so I have nothing to report as far as the audio settings are concerned.
post #2351 of 2810
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Originally Posted by Snakecharmed View Post

I purchased a TX-SR706 around a couple of months ago and so far, it seems decent, but I will be getting warranty work done on it at a local authorized Onkyo service center soon. The volume knob doesn't work. Apart from that, I've had a handful of video problems that I have so far only noticed when watching cable TV, with many of the symptoms similar to what Merlin803 experienced in post #2337. The receiver is connected to my Samsung LN52A540 TV via HDMI, and the cable box is connected to the receiver via HDMI. I also have a PS3 connected via HDMI, Wii connected via component, and my laptop docking station connected via VGA and RCAs. I won't declare the video issues to be a problem just yet until I test out more sources to isolate the causes. On rare occasion, I notice what is best described as a framerate drop for a brief second or two while watching cable. In that brief moment, the video seems to play in slow motion. It's very noticeable during football games when it happens. I've also noticed that Family Guy on TBS (but not FOX) will sometimes tear like v-sync is off when playing computer games, but looking at the TX-SR706's manual online just now, I see a film mode setting under the HDMI setup that I need to double check when I get home. It's currently either Auto or Off and I don't remember which. All other HDMI settings are default according to the manual.

So as to not alarm anybody just yet, I will also be testing a few other video sources as well, including DVD and hopefully borrowing a Blu-ray from someone, and provide an update on my findings. I can confirm that no such "framerate drop" problem seems to exist with the PS3 when playing Metal Gear Solid 4 or when using the Wii or PC.

I've yet to get my home theater working in full swing, so there's little else I can say about evaluating the TX-SR706 otherwise. I still have surround speakers that need to be hooked up, which won't happen until I get the in-wall wiring done, so I have nothing to report as far as the audio settings are concerned.

Do you have HDMI Resolution set to "Through" or are you using the 706 to upconvert your sources?
post #2352 of 2810
HDMI output resolution is set to Through.
post #2353 of 2810
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Originally Posted by Snakecharmed View Post

HDMI output resolution is set to Through.

"Through" is all I have ever used and never had a problem that I would associate with the 706. There is no video processing done in Through so in my opinion, any problems seen are either an HDMI interface issue (which would be present in all modes) or a problem between the source and the tv.
post #2354 of 2810
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Originally Posted by bluesky636 View Post

"Through" is all I have ever used and never had a problem that I would associate with the 706. There is no video processing done in Through so in my opinion, any problems seen are either an HDMI interface issue (which would be present in all modes) or a problem between the source and the tv.

That's good to know that the problem shouldn't be the receiver. I'll report back when I get a chance to test out all of the components in question. I can only say the following thus far:
  • The video tearing and framedrop problems didn't exist when my cable box was hooked up directly to my TV via component
  • The video from the other sources connected to the receiver appear to be fine, which I believe should exonerate the TV as well

Again, I don't want to alarm anyone at this early stage since I've got a lot of things to try out. The more I think about it though, my cable box may be more suspect than anything else at this point, but I'll still want to try out more sources and different cable connections on the receiver, probably just to see how it all looks if nothing else. Aside from the non-functioning volume knob, I don't have any other issues with the TX-SR706 so far driving my temporary two-channel setup. I haven't seen any of the PS3 artifact issues that some people have reported with this receiver.
post #2355 of 2810
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Originally Posted by Snakecharmed View Post

That's good to know that the problem shouldn't be the receiver. I'll report back when I get a chance to test out all of the components in question. I can only say the following thus far:
  • The video tearing and framedrop problems didn't exist when my cable box was hooked up directly to my TV via component
  • The video from the other sources connected to the receiver appear to be fine, which I believe should exonerate the TV as well

Again, I don't want to alarm anyone at this early stage since I've got a lot of things to try out. The more I think about it though, my cable box may be more suspect than anything else at this point, but I'll still want to try out more sources and different cable connections on the receiver, probably just to see how it all looks if nothing else. Aside from the non-functioning volume knob, I don't have any other issues with the TX-SR706 so far driving my temporary two-channel setup. I haven't seen any of the PS3 artifact issues that some people have reported with this receiver.

Hey, I am doing some testing...I realized after I went back into the menus that I changed a few settings when I changed "through" to "1080i" so I am not sure which one fixed my video problem (at least I have not noticed it so far so hopefully it is fixed...).

I know that changing Film mode from "off" to "auto" was one of the changes that I made so you might want to try that one out. My issue was especially apparent with cartoons too.
post #2356 of 2810
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Originally Posted by Merlin803 View Post

Hey, I am doing some testing...I realized after I went back into the menus that I changed a few settings when I changed "through" to "1080i" so I am not sure which one fixed my video problem (at least I have not noticed it so far so hopefully it is fixed...).

I know that changing Film mode from "off" to "auto" was one of the changes that I made so you might want to try that one out. My issue was especially apparent with cartoons too.

I believe Film Mode just applies a reverse 3:2 pulldown.

One thing you need to keep in mind with all these video settings in an AVR is that each source component and the tv have most if not all of these same capabilities (resolution upconversion, aspect ratio, frame rate conversion, etc.). Sometimes the source does things better, sometimes the AVR does things better, and sometimes the tv does things better. Therefore some experimentation may be required before you find the best combination of settings. Just because one component is not as good at doing something as another component doesn't mean that component is faulty. It just means the other component does it better.
post #2357 of 2810
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Originally Posted by Snakecharmed View Post

That's good to know that the problem shouldn't be the receiver. I'll report back when I get a chance to test out all of the components in question. I can only say the following thus far:
  • The video tearing and framedrop problems didn't exist when my cable box was hooked up directly to my TV via component
  • The video from the other sources connected to the receiver appear to be fine, which I believe should exonerate the TV as well

Again, I don't want to alarm anyone at this early stage since I've got a lot of things to try out. The more I think about it though, my cable box may be more suspect than anything else at this point, but I'll still want to try out more sources and different cable connections on the receiver, probably just to see how it all looks if nothing else. Aside from the non-functioning volume knob, I don't have any other issues with the TX-SR706 so far driving my temporary two-channel setup. I haven't seen any of the PS3 artifact issues that some people have reported with this receiver.

I've read posts, here and elsewhere, concerning the 706 and certain cable box compatibility issues.
post #2358 of 2810
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

What is the nominal impedance of your speakers?

8ohms
post #2359 of 2810
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Originally Posted by todd03blown View Post

8ohms

looks like I have a faulty receiver. I just went to turn it back on after re-verifying all connections with the left and right speakers were all ok and no wires shorting anything out and BAM smoke starts to come out of the right front grill area behind the volume knob. How lovely is this!!

Time to contact accessories for less and see what they are going to do.
post #2360 of 2810
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Originally Posted by todd03blown View Post

looks like I have a faulty receiver. I just went to turn it back on after re-verifying all connections with the left and right speakers were all ok and no wires shorting anything out and BAM smoke starts to come out of the right front grill area behind the volume knob. How lovely is this!!

Time to contact accessories for less and see what they are going to do.

That sucks. Good luck.
post #2361 of 2810
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Originally Posted by todd03blown View Post

looks like I have a faulty receiver. I just went to turn it back on after re-verifying all connections with the left and right speakers were all ok and no wires shorting anything out and BAM smoke starts to come out of the right front grill area behind the volume knob. How lovely is this!!

Time to contact accessories for less and see what they are going to do.

Since you bought the extended warranty, they should ship you another one at their cost. You'll probably have to pay to send the problematic one back, though. :-( Nevertheless, this is one of those times where buying an extended warranty will be well worth the extra $$$ (hopefully).
post #2362 of 2810
Thanks guys...yea I am sure accessories4less will take care of me since I just now started to set things up.

I sent them an email today around 5pm even though they closed at 4pm and will give them a call first thing in the morning to get this taken care of. It really sucks as I just got my Mits HC6800 projector installed and setup tonight as well
post #2363 of 2810
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Originally Posted by todd03blown View Post

looks like I have a faulty receiver. I just went to turn it back on after re-verifying all connections with the left and right speakers were all ok and no wires shorting anything out and BAM smoke starts to come out of the right front grill area behind the volume knob. How lovely is this!!

Time to contact accessories for less and see what they are going to do.

Bummer. Was this a refurbished unit?

Good luck.
post #2364 of 2810
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

Bummer. Was this a refurbished unit?

Good luck.

yep it was...the whole chassis is mint and I don't see a scratch anywhere, including the covers over the lights etc. Looks brand new..
post #2365 of 2810
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Originally Posted by todd03blown View Post

yep it was...the whole chassis is mint and I don't see a scratch anywhere, including the covers over the lights etc. Looks brand new..

My impression is that wonky 706s tend to be refurbished.
post #2366 of 2810
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

My impression is that wonky 706s tend to be refurbished.

Refurbished = used.

I never buy a used anything.

Well, I might buy a used Ferrari.
post #2367 of 2810
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

My impression is that wonky 706s tend to be refurbished.

well in my mind it made sense to buy this for over 50% off retail plus I got a 3yr extended warranty for only 30 bucks on top of it that includes replacement etc.
post #2368 of 2810
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Originally Posted by todd03blown View Post

well in my mind it made sense to buy this for over 50% off retail plus I got a 3yr extended warranty for only 30 bucks on top of it that includes replacement etc.

No, I get it -- it makes sense to me. I have a refurbished receiver (another brand) in our bedroom set-up and it's great.

I'm generally no fan of speaking in absolutes on issues with A/V gear. It just seems that issues with the 706, in this forum, mostly pop-up with refurbished receivers.

It's also the reason I asked if your AVR was one of unlucky.

Hope you get your 706 back soon.
post #2369 of 2810
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Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt View Post

No, I get it -- it makes sense to me. I have a refurbished receiver (another brand) in our bedroom set-up and it's great.

I'm generally no fan of speaking in absolutes on issues with A/V gear. It just seems that issues with the 706, in this forum, mostly pop-up with refurbished receivers.

It's also the reason I asked if your AVR was one of unlucky.

Hope you get your 706 back soon.

Cool, didn't want to come across as being rude .

Update - I just talked with Mark from accessories4less and am sending the 706 back for a full credit and getting the Marantz Sr5003 instead. Seems the reviews are good for this receiver and its in my budget as well.

I should have the receiver by saturday morning as well so it looks like I will be enjoying my new HT room this weekend as originally planned!!
post #2370 of 2810
Bluesky,
Ventilation in the closet is fine actually a lot better than my previous stereo cabinet. My new issue is I purchased a Dayton SA100 Subwoofer Amp hooked it up with the JBL sub going to the Hi Level output left and right and the front speaker output on the SR-706 going to the Hi level input, My front speakers are connected to the JBL. The problem I am having is that it seems the sub is not outputting any Bass and the front speakers only show the left as being hooked up but sound is coming out of both fronts if I disconnect the left front then the right drives both speakers??
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