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post #241 of 2825
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Originally Posted by Axalotaqs View Post


Allez - my 706 manual says the same thing. I don't know how I "set the volume to maximum" though when it's stuck in standby (solid red light) or flashing/clicking. I don't really get an option to turn the volume knob or use the remote either.

It's been a couple hours now since the receiver has had anything connected to it and still not getting anywhere. Flashing standby and clicking when I try to power on out of standby. Major bummer. It's hard to believe I'm the first in this thread that has had this problem.

I'm not sure, but does disconnecting the speaker cables/inputs before trying to power on make any difference?
post #242 of 2825
Everything is disconnected from the receiver, other than 120v to the wall.
post #243 of 2825
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Originally Posted by primetimeguy View Post

component is video only so not sure how you get audio through component but no video. Did you mean composite, with L&R audio (red/white)? Are you connected correctly?

Yes, I am using RGB cables. Either Toslink or Digital for the audio.
My Sony unit had the problem first, but the tech and I worked the issue by doing a reset to the Okkyo. Now I have video & audio on my ony dvd.
Next up was my new Memorex Blu-Ray player. Ran the Component cables in to IN2 and the audio to digital 2. Nice sound, no video.
Tech support could not help this time.
However, if I hook the Memorex directly to the TV, I get great picture and audio. I do not understand this. IF it worked for one DVD player into the Onkyo, it should work for any player.
When I get my new LCD TV, I would still like to run the HDMI into the Onkyo and have just one HDMI out to the TV.
Anyway, I can get a picture, but it is not the way it should work, so Onkyo said they want it back.
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post #244 of 2825
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Originally Posted by Allez View Post

I don't remember reading about that particular problem from anyone else. Have you tested to make sure it's not the DVD player?

I'm still hopeful of getting a good one. If I don't, I may spring for a new 706.

Yes, I have used 3 different DVD players. Same issue. Fixed one as above. Tech thinks it is a problem with the unit. Well. it is a refurb.

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post #245 of 2825
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Originally Posted by jobman2000 View Post

Yes, I am using RGB cables. Either Toslink or Digital for the audio.
My Sony unit had the problem first, but the tech and I worked the issue by doing a reset to the Okkyo. Now I have video & audio on my ony dvd.
Next up was my new Memorex Blu-Ray player. Ran the Component cables in to IN2 and the audio to digital 2. Nice sound, no video.
Tech support could not help this time.
However, if I hook the Memorex directly to the TV, I get great picture and audio. I do not understand this. IF it worked for one DVD player into the Onkyo, it should work for any player.
When I get my new LCD TV, I would still like to run the HDMI into the Onkyo and have just one HDMI out to the TV.
Anyway, I can get a picture, but it is not the way it should work, so Onkyo said they want it back.
mb

You have to assign the component connections to a particular input. Did you do this in the menus?
post #246 of 2825
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Originally Posted by jobman2000 View Post

Yes, I am using RGB cables. Either Toslink or Digital for the audio.
My Sony unit had the problem first, but the tech and I worked the issue by doing a reset to the Okkyo. Now I have video & audio on my ony dvd.
Next up was my new Memorex Blu-Ray player. Ran the Component cables in to IN2 and the audio to digital 2. Nice sound, no video.
Tech support could not help this time.
However, if I hook the Memorex directly to the TV, I get great picture and audio. I do not understand this. IF it worked for one DVD player into the Onkyo, it should work for any player.
When I get my new LCD TV, I would still like to run the HDMI into the Onkyo and have just one HDMI out to the TV.
Anyway, I can get a picture, but it is not the way it should work, so Onkyo said they want it back.
mb

Just to make sure I understand, you were not able to get the Memorex to show video when connected via component to IN2, but you were able to get the Sony DVD to show video when connected to the exact same component IN2 on the receiver? You were then able to connect the Memorex via component to your TV and see video?
post #247 of 2825
It's the next morning and the 706 sat all night completely disconnected from anything. I plugged it in and when I try to power it on I can't get anything other than the flashing red standby light. Bummer.

Do I call Newegg.com or Onkyo? I'll start with Newegg.

I have a question with regards to my use of speakers. I am running 5.1 in the main room, but do have 2 other sets of speakers remotely hard-wired in the house (front living room and back deck). I connected a Radio Shack speaker-selector box (will take speaker-level input and distribute to up to 4 sets of speakers) and connected to the 2nd Zone. I won't use these peripheral speakers often, but want to make sure what I am doing is safe. Is this the appropriate way to power those speakers or should I run a separate amp? My receiver died when powering 1 of these 2 sets of small speakers in addition to the main room.. not sure if they played any role in my 706's demise... My old Pioneer receiver has run this same setup for the last 4 years and still works fine.
post #248 of 2825
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Originally Posted by Axalotaqs View Post

It's the next morning and the 706 sat all night completely disconnected from anything. I plugged it in and when I try to power it on I can't get anything other than the flashing red standby light. Bummer.

It sounds like the protection circuit may have been activated. Look on page 114 of the instruction manual where it explains what to do when that happens.
post #249 of 2825
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Originally Posted by karlsch View Post

It sounds like the protection circuit may have been activated. Look on page 114 of the instruction manual where it explains what to do when that happens.

Unfortunately he's tried that - he couldn't turn the volume to max. I haven't gotten mine yet so I don't know, but I assume there's no physical 'stop' when you turn the volume up?
post #250 of 2825
I filled out an RMA at Newegg.com and got instant approval to send it back. Grrrr... $24 shipping my cost. I hooked up my old Sony receiver exactly as I had hooked up the new Onkyo and the 8-year-old Sony works just fine.
post #251 of 2825
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Originally Posted by techmine View Post

My Amazon Review
===============
Got my 706 last Wednesday. Ever since I hooked my cable box (moto via component) the blue screen problem started. Any surge in brightness makes the screen blue i.e. the VIDEO signal goes out of sync. Now this thing is happening in upconversion only. Down conversion is ok from my BD player to 720p TV. This is the first issue and has been happening pretty consistently.

The second issue is, there is a lot of lag between switching from one source to the other. If I switch from BD player to Cable the screen goes blue for 5 seconds. This is too big a lag. The audio switching is pretty instantaneous.

The third problem is, when I press setup button on the remote, the screen goes blue again and for an agonizing long time. Thankfully the setup screen does come up !!So it is "ALL BLUE" story so far.

To add to my blues, Onkyo support is trying to convince me that this is some problem with my cable box, which has been working fine for two years now. I am pretty convinced that the Faroudja DCDi chip is overheating. Found out now, in various forums. Talking about Onkyo support, they think they can fool people around. They have long waiting times on support calls. There are no experts to solve your issue. The call reps go back and forth adding to the wait time. I am waiting for another call on monday and if they try to convince me that it is my cable box issue, I will have to return this to Amazon.

I have given 2 stars for the sound and ease of setup. I would not recommend this receiver to anybody until Onkyo fixes this stupid problem.

hi,

I've also had the blue screen problem when I've connected the dvd-recorder via component and switched the upconversion to 1080p. I think this is a big problem of the 706 which I've read now for a few times in this and other forums. I connected all my devices directly to the TV and are only using the 706 for the sound and have only connected my PS3.
post #252 of 2825
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Originally Posted by redroomboy View Post

hi,

I've also had the blue screen problem when I've connected the dvd-recorder via component and switched the upconversion to 1080p. I think this is a big problem of the 706 which I've read now for a few times in this and other forums. I connected all my devices directly to the TV and are only using the 706 for the sound and have only connected my PS3.

I have yet to receive mine, but all 4 of my inputs are HDMI, and my TV is 720p. Hopefully this won't be a problem for me, but if there is any significant issue it's going to go back.
post #253 of 2825
I asked this in the 806 thread, but I think it would apply here, so I'm posting this here because it seems this thread sees more activity than its 806 counterpart.

Question...

Can you do this with the 706/806: connect three devices via HDMI, say a few satellite receivers, then use the Onkyo's component monitor out to connect to a TV's component IN? The TV has no HDMI inputs, only component inputs; hence my question.

I'm under the impression that one can just adjust on the Onkyo the monitor output from the default HDMI digital to analog component, which the manual explains. Wouldn't this then allow everything that's passed INTO the Onkyo, even if via HDMI, to then be passed OUT of the Onkyo via component (with accompanying digital audio cable, of course)?

I ask because as mentioned in a different thread, my old man's having an issue with his old Mitsubishi HDTV (WS55711) and a new Onkyo 806 he just acquired. I still think it's because he didn't properly set up his TV's "DTV inputs." A tech guy at ABT electronics, however, told him the Onkyo cannot receive via HDMI inputs then send out via component.

Thanks in advance.
post #254 of 2825
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Originally Posted by Lord Vader View Post

A tech guy at ABT electronics, however, told him the Onkyo cannot receive via HDMI inputs then send out via component.

Thanks in advance.

The tech guy is correct, per page 23 in the manual
post #255 of 2825
Thanks. Looks like he's going to return his 806 then.

He should just break down and buy a new TV already! This thing is technologically backward!
post #256 of 2825
I can´t find any useful information on the 706´s ability to upscale (except some very scary "problems" some people have had). I just bought the following setup:

Panasonic TH-50PZ800U
Onkyo TX-SR706
Philips DVDR3576H/37
Plus speakers (Kef), belkin stabilizer, etc...

My question is, do I need to go for an Oppo DVD player, or is the Onkyo 706 upscaling comparable to it (maybe not the 983H, but what about the 980 or the 981??)

I really don´t want to pay $400 for a DVD player if my receiver can get the same quality picture on my screen.

Plus, maybe the Panny has a good processor too? I have not found any info on that either. Since it´s top of the line, it must be pretty good right?

Any recomendations? Has anybody compared the Onkyo 706 upscaling quality to the Oppo DVD players?

By the way, I won´t be getting a Blueray yet, since I live in a country where it is not a common format yet and DVD is still king (specially the pirate kind hahaha)
post #257 of 2825
You don't need a $400 DVD player. The $100 Pioneer DV-410V does a great job of upscaling for its price. Or if your current DVD player is progressive scan, use the 706 to upscale it and compare it without upscaling. Many of us can't really tell the difference. I have an HD DVD player and the HD DVDs are better than DVD, but not enough to spend double for HD. You have to look hard to tell the difference, but the audio is better.
post #258 of 2825
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Originally Posted by SkiSmuggs View Post

You don't need a $400 DVD player. The $100 Pioneer DV-410V does a great job of upscaling for its price. Or if your current DVD player is progressive scan, use the 706 to upscale it and compare it without upscaling. Many of us can't really tell the difference. I have an HD DVD player and the HD DVDs are better than DVD, but not enough to spend double for HD. You have to look hard to tell the difference, but the audio is better.

I don't understand when people make these statements. To my eyes and many others HD image is like night and day compared to SD dvds. The colors pop and the images are much sharper, SD looks like some faded mess compared to it.
post #259 of 2825
HD definitely looks much better than SD. However, blu-ray hasnt exactly blown my mind or anything. Really depends on the movie. Some movies are only marginally better looking, while others look phenomenal. Journey to the center of the earth didnt do anything for me, but Hellboy and Get Smart looked amazing. As for the Onkyos upscaling ability, well it sucks to me. I cant tell any difference between "through" and "720". I'm using an Onkyo 5 disk DVD and a 61" JVC LCOS 720p set. If your on a smaller TV thats 1080 then theres probably a difference in PQ. I do realize i'm on a large set with lower resolution, so take that into consideration.
post #260 of 2825
Just to make myself clear, I want to know if the Onkyo TX-SR706 upscaling is comparable to that of Oppo DVD players. Like I said, maybe not to the 983H but what about the 980 or the 981?

Are people who find the Onkyo 706 subpar in this category comparing it to something else? Or is it good, but not as good as something else they compare it too.

As far as I understand, it uses the same Faroudja chip that the Oppo 981 has, so how come there is so much differcence in opinion?

Please be honest, does the Onkyo really suck that bad, or are nay-sayers saying it sucks when compared to the top of the line Denon, or something like that? I mean, there always are people who have cash to burn and would get the $400 Oppo, or the $1500 Denon 3930 without even flinching, but you probably get to a point of diminishing returns somewhere!!
post #261 of 2825
I dont have an upscaling DVD player. I watch my DVD's at 480p on my 61" 720p set. I was excited that I'd have a nice upscaling receiver to make DVD's look better. As I stated above, I can tell no difference between in the picture quality when I flip betwen "through" and "720" on the Onkyo. Either my receiver isnt doing it, or it just sucks at it. However, I didt buy it for scaling reasons, so its not really an issue to me. My test DVD's were a homemade copy of Star Wars episode 5 ( I think it was 5 anyway. The one with the ewoks), and Step Brothers rented from Blockbuster. Basically an old movie and a new movie.

Oh, since you have a new Panny TV, That will probably do the trick as far as upscaling. I personally wouldnt spend $400 on a freaking DVD player. I'd buy a PS3 if I were to spend that kind of cash. You might not care about blu-ray, but you'd have a game machine, media player, and a DVD player that upscaled. Just a thought.
post #262 of 2825
My problem post here was finally acknowledged by Onkyo today and offered a replacement through Amazon. I know Amazon will be great and will right away send me a replacement. Though I am not sure now whether to go for another 706 or not. I am now short of confidence about their upscaller which is having over heating issues (blank screen for bright scenes). If it is the same chip, wouldn't it show up again with the same issue? or is it just similar to computer Mother Board issues where one of 1000's would go bad?? A

I am confused now. I liked the features and the sound. It is just this upscaling that has put me off. If somebody had gone through the same issue and got a perfect replacement, please let me know
post #263 of 2825
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Originally Posted by redroomboy View Post

hi,

I've also had the blue screen problem when I've connected the dvd-recorder via component and switched the upconversion to 1080p. I think this is a big problem of the 706 which I've read now for a few times in this and other forums. I connected all my devices directly to the TV and are only using the 706 for the sound and have only connected my PS3.

I can also do away without component upscaling but then what is the use of buying a receiver that cannot do its job? I think Onkyo should advertise accordingly then. I have not heard anything about other receivers that suck big time in upscaling then only Onkyo 706?
post #264 of 2825
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Originally Posted by ffk_pennywise View Post

I dont have an upscaling DVD player. I watch my DVD's at 480p on my 61" 720p set. I was excited that I'd have a nice upscaling receiver to make DVD's look better. As I stated above, I can tell no difference between in the picture quality when I flip betwen "through" and "720" on the Onkyo. Either my receiver isnt doing it, or it just sucks at it.

Since your TV upscales the 480p signal to its native resolution, it means that the TV does as good of a job upscaling to 720p as the receiver does.
post #265 of 2825
I'm not sure that the TV does upscale. But that would be a good explanation. I'll have to look that up.
post #266 of 2825
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Originally Posted by ffk_pennywise View Post

I'm not sure that the TV does upscale. But that would be a good explanation. I'll have to look that up.

If you're getting in picture at all on your 720p TV from a 480i/p signal, then your TV is upscaling. Otherwise there would be no image. The whole reason that upscaling players/receivers exist is that many TVs do a terrible job at upscaling the signal internally to its native resolution.

I've had good success with the 706's upscaling ability, at least compared to my TV by itself. My Wii (480p over component) looks a whole lot better using the receiver to upscale than having the Wii plugged in directly into the TV.
post #267 of 2825
Well color me retarded for not knowing that. Guess I'm not a guru after all. lol.
post #268 of 2825
Thanks to the threadstarter of the Onkyo 706!

Unbelievable.

First I was going to settle for a Sony HT-SS2300 HTiab, then everyone told me about how better Onkyo was to Panasonic, Pioneer, or Sony, so I was then going to buy a Onky 606, then heard they had complaints/issues,then thought maybe the 705 would be bug-free, after Onkyo removed all the problems with the newer model, but... here we are again, so NOW I am looking at the Onkyo 706,and with all it's glory, and the cool blue light around that volume control..now what.

Electronics are Electronics, and they will have problems, just like TV's, but what a nightmare!

Will Onkyo ever come around and listen and deal with all these issues?

But Is there any trouble free AVR out there, really? Let me know before I go spend $500.00 on this 706.

I'll put off my speaker/AVR purchase until I hear some more POSITIVE feedback.

I have a SamsungA750 HDTV, going to get a
SonyBluRay 350, and either
HSU performance 1 6.1 channel or
SVSound 3.1 (because it is pricey, and twice the $$ as the HSU speaker system) or to be real cheap,
the Klipsch Quintet III system. yikes!!!


From the get go, more than ever, everyone told me just to hang my darn TV and use only ONE HDMI cable from TV to receiver,Time Warner HD-DVR into receiver, then Sony Blu ray into receiver. ( I was also hearing to use toslink digital audio from TV to receiver)

With this setup, do you see any other problem that may arise?
post #269 of 2825
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Originally Posted by rivrbyte View Post

Thanks to the threadstarter of the Onkyo 706!

Unbelievable.

First I was going to settle for a Sony HT-SS2300 HTiab, then everyone told me about how better Onkyo was to Panasonic, Pioneer, or Sony, so I was then going to buy a Onky 606, then heard they had complaints/issues,then thought maybe the 705 would be bug-free, after Onkyo removed all the problems with the newer model, but... here we are again, so NOW I am looking at the Onkyo 706,and with all it's glory, and the cool blue light around that volume control..now what.

Electronics are Electronics, and they will have problems, just like TV's, but what a nightmare!

Will Onkyo ever come around and listen and deal with all these issues?

But Is there any trouble free AVR out there, really? Let me know before I go spend $500.00 on this 706.

I'll put off my speaker/AVR purchase until I hear some more POSITIVE feedback.

Guess what, you won't be able to. My 2 cents, don't rely too much on video processing capabilities on any AVR in this price range(good amount of money). If you have HDTV then directly connect you components to the TV (HDMI and Component are best options). Look at the sound. That be the case, Onkyo's have nice sound and 706 is THX certified.
post #270 of 2825
Just got the 706.
What is the most recent FW?
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