The "official" The Onkyo TX-SR706 Owners Thread - Page 81

Originally Posted by bluesky636

I never accept the first answer I receive if I believe it is wrong. You work your way up the chain until you get to someone who knows what they are talking about. However, if going to an Oppo 83 solved your problem, Onkyo tech support may have been right and it was your player.

Originally Posted by iMinnesotan

I contacted Onkyo about this very issue and they told me to contact the maker of my DVD player. That pretty much answered for me what I could expect from their customer support.

Originally Posted by rajeshkumarcn

I would like to disagree, I too have Oppo BDP-83 player and it upscales everything to 1080p, hence A/V Receiver need not upscale.

The Oppo has excellent de-interlacing and scaling technology (Anchor Bay) -- you're golden.

In my case, previous DVD player was connected using Composite video, hence the contrast issue was there.

Why composite?

I tried connecting Composite and Component video of Oppo 83, the same contrast issue is there for the output from 706. Which means HDMI to HDMI is ok, but any other video input to HDMI is not ok.

You are neutering the Oppo. HDMI is the only acceptable connection to take full advantage of the money spent on this player in my opinion.

RCN

Originally Posted by rajeshkumarcn

Is that mean you are using only HDMI inputs to the receiver?
Are you facing problem with Component inputs or Composite video inputs?

Originally Posted by bluesky636

Ok.

First recommendation is to read and understand the Audyssey Setup Guide linked in my signature.

Second recommendation is to rerun Audyssey following the Guide's procedures.

I see two problems with your Audyssey results.

The first problem is that the subwoofer trim level is at the very bottom of the adjustment range. This indicates that the level control on the sub is set too high and the 706 may not be able to turn the trim level down enough to compensate. The overall level of the sub may be too high, causing some of the problems you are experiencing. Set the level control on the sub to between 9 and 11 o'clock. No higher. Make sure the crossover on the sub is either bypassed or set as high as possible. Set the LFE LPF on the 706 to 120 Hz.

The second problem I see is that your crossovers appear too low. When you rerun Audyssey, if you get similar crossover results, set the speaker crossovers in the speaker setup menu to 80 Hz. The sub will do a better job of handing frequencies below 80 Hz than the other speakers will. Just remember: it is Ok to raise a speaker's crossover point, but you never want to lower it.

Let us know how things go after following these recommendations.

Originally Posted by headshrinker2

When I first got my 706 last year, I discovered this website and read the Audyssey Setup Guide several times. Really helpful document.

Following some of your suggestions, I pulled the center speaker forward a bit on the shelf. While not low to ground, the center speakers tweeters are several inches lower than seating ear level position. I lowered the gain on the sub to around 10:00. I set LFE LPP to 120 Hz. I am also experimenting with the Audyssey results (crossover and trim levels), and setting crossovers of front/center/surround to 80Hz.

After making the gain adjustment on the sub and repeating the Audyssey setup, I got the following results (cutoff/trim):

FL: 60/-2.5
Center: 50/-2.0
FR: 60/-2.0
SR: 70/-7.0
SL: 70/-3.5
SUB: NA/-3.5

Should I leave Dynamic EQ on or off? What exactly does it do?

As I said in my original post, while I don't mind a wide dynamic range if that's how a movie is intended to be, I want clear and intelligable dialogue.

-- Rob

Originally Posted by rajeshkumarcn

I would like to disagree, I too have Oppo BDP-83 player and it upscales everything to 1080p, hence A/V Receiver need not upscale.

In my case, previous DVD player was connected using Composite video, hence the contrast issue was there.

I tried connecting Composite and Component video of Oppo 83, the same contrast issue is there for the output from 706. Which means HDMI to HDMI is ok, but any other video input to HDMI is not ok.

RCN

Originally Posted by headshrinker2

When I first got my 706 last year, I discovered this website and read the Audyssey Setup Guide several times. Really helpful document.

Following some of your suggestions, I pulled the center speaker forward a bit on the shelf. While not low to ground, the center speakers tweeters are several inches lower than seating ear level position. I lowered the gain on the sub to around 10:00. I set LFE LPP to 120 Hz. I am also experimenting with the Audyssey results (crossover and trim levels), and setting crossovers of front/center/surround to 80Hz.

After making the gain adjustment on the sub and repeating the Audyssey setup, I got the following results (cutoff/trim):

FL: 60/-2.5
Center: 50/-2.0
FR: 60/-2.0
SR: 70/-7.0
SL: 70/-3.5
SUB: NA/-3.5

Should I leave Dynamic EQ on or off? What exactly does it do?

As I said in my original post, while I don't mind a wide dynamic range if that's how a movie is intended to be, I want clear and intelligable dialogue.

-- Rob

Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt

Those numbers look better, except for the SR speaker -- you mentioned that the room did not allow for symmetrical placement.

I would raise the crossover to 80 Hz across the board.

http://www.audyssey.com/technology/dynamiceq.html

Originally Posted by headshrinker2

Thanks very much for the reply.

I'm curious, why the recommendation to raise crossover to 80Hx across the board (thus overiding the Audyssey suggestions)? My front and surround speakers are not tiny satellites.

-- Rob

Originally Posted by headshrinker2

Thanks very much for the reply.

I'm curious, why the recommendation to raise crossover to 80Hx across the board (thus overiding the Audyssey suggestions)? My front and surround speakers are not tiny satellites.

-- Rob

Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt

Totem Dreamcatcher
Frequency Response: 57 Hz - 25 kHz ± 3 dB (in room)

The crossover slope has a rolloff that begins before/after your selected 60 Hz setting. Using speakers with a frequency response of 57, you are probably experiencing a gap in the handoff between your speakers and sub, maybe even 12 dB. Your sub is designed specifically for handling LF and will do a much better job at it.

Originally Posted by headshrinker2

Would it make sense to bump up the center channel?

Regards,

-- Rob

Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt

What display device are you using and how is it connected to your 706?

Sony LCD W400 series - supports Full HD (1080p) - HDMI

Have you adjusted the video settings on the 706 and/or display?
yes, but if I increase brightness overall brightness increases and black becomes grey. I tried many other settings on receiver and display but in vain

What are your expectations for a composite connection?
When I set HDMI out as through, output should give input as it is. Presently if I take output from Composite Video Out port, I am getting input as it is. It is same as if I connect DVD player to TV via composite. But when I connect via Receiver and take output from HDMI, the display becomes dark. I compared the composite out from receiver and HDMI out by changing the input source selection of TV, I could really make out the difference.

--I tried an S-video connection as an experiment and thought that the up-conversion by the 706 was pretty good.
You may find the issue only in dark scenes e.g some scenes in Da Vinci Code, Angels and Demons, Dark Knight etc. To compare, take S-Video out from receiver and connect to TV. You may pause the DVD Player in a dark scene, and change input selection on TV to S-Video and compare it with HDMI signal coming from Receiver.

Originally Posted by rajeshkumarcn

I used Composite and Component for testing purpose only. Normally I use HDMI out from Oppo

RCN

Originally Posted by devo235

My 706 doesn't seem to recognise my Mac Mini. When I plug the Mac directly into my panel (Sharp lc42d62u), I get a picture, and am able to use the computer. I wanted to run the Mac through my 706, but the 706 says "no signal" when connected via HDMI to DVI cable.

I was trying to avoid having to change the inputs on the panel everytime I wanted to use the Mac.

My Mac is connected with DVI on its end, to HDMI into the back of the 706, then HDMI out to the display panel. When connected in this fashion, I get no picture at all. Receiver displays "no signal".

Could it be a problem with the "flavour" of the DVI output on the Mac? I'm not very familiar with DVI, but have read some are strictly analog, some digital, some both?

As I said, when connected directly to the panel, the Mac works fine. I'm not sure if the signal being sent through the Mac is digital or analog.

Originally Posted by devo235

My 706 doesn't seem to recognise my Mac Mini. HDMI to DVI cable.

This type of connection is sometimes a gamble because of HDCP.

My Mac is connected with DVI on its end, to HDMI into the back of the 706, then HDMI out to the display panel.

What do you intend to do with this connection?

Originally Posted by devo235

Not sure what you mean exactly, ...mostly for music purposes and watching streaming online video.

That's what I was asking. Does the DVI connection on your Mac output audio data?

Is that a quote from the 706 owners manual? I haven't come across that quote in the manual. Well, if that's what the manual says, perhaps i'm SOL.

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Are video signals from any PC not supported? That dosen't make sense to me, as don't alot of people have HTPC connected to their 706s? Am I wrong? Is it because it's an RGB signal? What about if its native format is 1920x1080?

Originally Posted by Chucksnet

Just got a 706 and was trying to use the auto setup for the speakers. Power on and hit setup. I didn't get a setup menu on the tv. Have since tried setting up the CBL/SAT input to the hdmi 1 input and connected the cable box to that input. No video. The cable thats connected to the tv has been in use for 2 yrs. connecting the cable box to the tv. Tried a new cable from hdmi out to another tv. No video. Moved that cable to the cable box. WORKS OK. Am I doing anything wrong or is it a bad receiver. Its a new receiver that was a display model and never connected up.

Originally Posted by Merlin803

Hey guys, I see that the 706 has an input for a "IR IN" that the manual describes as being for an "IR Receiver".

I would like to be able to run a short cable (maybe 4 ft) cable from this to a more visable area so I don't have to point my remote right at the 706.

My question is, can I just purchase some sort of IR cable for this or do I actually need an "IR Receiver"?

Originally Posted by WhskyTangoFoxtrt

This might help.

Originally Posted by devo235

The DVI outputs only video, and I will use another connection to get audio to the reciever. I've posted in the HTPC section, and am awaiting replies.

Thanks for the advice, i'll keep trying.

Originally Posted by Bacci

...there's a little script you can run in the background that does the exact same thing. You can download it for free at http://www.1000klub.com/
...

Originally Posted by btokars

That sounds like just what I've been needing, too. I downloaded the zip file but am clueless about how to install or where it lives. Can you provide just a little more direction? Thanks.