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post #991 of 1214
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Originally Posted by sitlet View Post

That was exactly my first guess. However, after the second meeting when he was in a suit, it really seems like he's out to do more than just beat Otto up. It wouldn't put it past me that Clay hired him.

That makes sense as well .. but why not just kill Otto then and get it over with .. ??
post #992 of 1214
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Originally Posted by sitlet View Post

That was exactly my first guess. However, after the second meeting when he was in a suit, it really seems like he's out to do more than just beat Otto up. It wouldn't put it past me that Clay hired him.

Or it was Jax that hired him.
post #993 of 1214
That's what I was wondering too (the offing Otto part or why doesn't Otto just off himself with everything that he's been through?)... There was a scene towards the end w/ Tara and her kids leaving the hospital. 'Guy' was sitting in the hallway when they passed, and it looked to me that he was getting up to follow her.

Clay, Pope or Cartel... Clay and the Cartel thought they needed the RICO case over SAMCRO to keep the guns & drugs running.

Ahhhhhhh, who knows? Guess we'll just have to wait another daggum week.
post #994 of 1214
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

My guess he's the husband of the nurse Otto murdered ..

That would be my guess or some other family connection. Because of real life connections.
The nurse was played by Karina Logue and the person that beat up Otto was played by Donal Logue. Real life brother and sister.
post #995 of 1214
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Originally Posted by cocoon View Post


The nurse was played by Karina Logue and the person that beat up Otto was played by Donal Logue. Real life brother and sister.
How does your theory explain Otto and Gemma's relationship on the show? smile.gif

In order to "officially" be allowed in the cell he is CIA/FED. Or he might be the nurse's husband. I'm going with CIA/FED of some sort.

larry
post #996 of 1214
In regards to Otto, I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but I can't remember it.

What exactly did he do to get locked up for life? It seems like the rest of the Sons come and go every time they go to prison, but Otto is stuck there.
post #997 of 1214
good question... just googled it - looks like 6 years for auto theft then 30 to life for killing 'Squirrel'... and then add the nurse on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sons_of_Anarchy_characters#Otto_Delaney
post #998 of 1214
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

How does your theory explain Otto and Gemma's relationship on the show? smile.gif
In order to "officially" be allowed in the cell he is CIA/FED. Or he might be the nurse's husband. I'm going with CIA/FED of some sort.
larry

Maybe both .. ?? Myself, I have to believe he's not law enforcement ..
post #999 of 1214
Season finale next week, damn. That was a good way to make Wendy go away. Still a few open switches to close.

Does Nero get killed and then Gemma ends up going with Clay to Ireland?

Does Tiggs get killed by Pope, or will it be Pope that gets killed?

Are we done seeing the Irish, the cartel and the Chinese?

Then there is the whole Tara mess. Does she get arrested, killed by the brother / Marshall, or move to Oregon?

Will we see anything happen with Otto?
Edited by RemyM - 11/28/12 at 7:02am
post #1000 of 1214
Considering Sutter's history with TV shows...I think there are two options here...

A.) Everything surrounding Jax crumbles and he is left alone and dis-functional with no club, family, etc.

B.) Jax dies as the savior of the club, the town, and his family (specifically his boys).

I personally think it will be option B. Sutter went option A already with 'The Shield', and I don't see him doing the same thing here. If anything, he has eluded to the option B ending already with the letters Jax is writing to his sons (just as Jax's father wrote to him). But instead of his sons being the chosen ones to save the club (like Jax was), the club will have been saved and turned the respectable direction and is a legacy Thomas and Able can be proud to say "our father built this".

Just my $0.02 having watched this show from day 1 after having watched 'The Shield' from beginning to end as well.
post #1001 of 1214
Could be option B but not this season. Still two seasons to go and Jax will be around until the end.
post #1002 of 1214
Liked the removal of tattoo "ceremony". Lots of unanswered questions for the season finale. Check out the November issue of Entertainment Weekly magazine with good article and Jax on the cover:

http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/11/19/this-weeks-cover-sons-of-anarchy/
post #1003 of 1214
Anyone notice the Dave Navarro cameo .. ??

I was expecting the burning of the tats on Clay as they did with another ex-member a few seasons back .. although the tattoo gun was being wielded fairly painfully it looked like ..

I still don't like the idea that Clay is essentially getting off the hook and now being set up to take on the gun business .. but maybe that's the set up for next season ..

I don't see Gemma going with Clay to Ireland ..

And now we have a nutty Marshall in the mix .. his hotel room stocked with plenty of munitions as well as a bag full of prescription drugs .. so, is he dying or nutty .. ?? Another possible setup for next season ..
post #1004 of 1214
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I was expecting the burning of the tats on Clay as they did with another ex-member a few seasons back .. although the tattoo gun was being wielded fairly painfully it looked like ..

They burned off the other guys tats because he was supposed to have them removed or covered up on his own after leaving the club and didn't, so that was his punishment.
post #1005 of 1214
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Originally Posted by RemyM View Post

Does Tiggs get killed by Pope, or will it be Pope that gets killed?

The way Jax was talking to Pope's 2nd in command and feeling him out, it wouldn't surprise me if they kill Pope at the meeting and allow the other guy to take over in return for letting Tig live.
post #1006 of 1214
I thought that what Jax did to Wendy was horrifying. I have long understood what monsters Clay and Gemma were but Jax has become every bit as monstrous. As we have frequently been told, the SOA gavel really does corrupt. Who do we have left to root for? Maybe Tara but nobody else I can think of. It really is about time to wrap up Sons of Anarchy.
post #1007 of 1214
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I thought that what Jax did to Wendy was horrifying. I have long understood what monsters Clay and Gemma were but Jax has become every bit as monstrous. As we have frequently been told, the SOA gavel really does corrupt. Who do we have left to root for? Maybe Tara but nobody else I can think of. It really is about time to wrap up Sons of Anarchy.

I totally agree! I think Jax has gone over to the dark side and won't be back.
post #1008 of 1214
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

Anyone notice the Dave Navarro cameo .. ??
Noticed right away but wasn't 99% sure because I thought Dave is even a little shorter. smile.gif

larry
post #1009 of 1214
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Originally Posted by RemyM View Post

Does Tiggs get killed by Pope, or will it be Pope that gets killed?

The way Jax was talking to Pope's 2nd in command and feeling him out, it wouldn't surprise me if they kill Pope at the meeting and allow the other guy to take over in return for letting Tig live.
Thinking about the Tig situation I thought of that, too. But having a "peaceful' transition in the Pope empire with no retaliation would be stretch even for this show. Samcro can be exterminated in a blink of an eye if Pope's minions wanted to do it. But, like always with this show, "ya never know!". smile.gif Although, if Pope was killed with no trace back to Samcro, it might work. Pope has to be dead for Tig to live. However, does Jax really give AFF if Tig lives or not? TIg is the one that went off to kill Opie even though it was on Clay's orders.

larry
Edited by PooperScooper - 11/30/12 at 4:21am
post #1010 of 1214
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

Thinking about the Tig situation I thought of that, too. But having a "peaceful' transition in the Pope empire with no retaliation would be stretch even for this show. Samcro can be exterminated in a blink of an eye if Pope's minions wanted to do it. But, like always with this show, "ya never know!". smile.gif Although, if Pope was killed with no trace back to Samcro, it might work. Pope has to be dead for Tig to live. However, does Jax really give AFF if Tig lives or not? TIg is the one that went off to kill Opie even though it was on Clay's orders.
larry

Based on the previews for the next episode ...

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

It looks like Jax leads Tig into a trap and then pulls a gun on him.     And since previews are full of cheap deception, I'm going to put the odds of Tig dying at 100 to 1.  

post #1011 of 1214
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I thought that what Jax did to Wendy was horrifying. I have long understood what monsters Clay and Gemma were but Jax has become every bit as monstrous. As we have frequently been told, the SOA gavel really does corrupt. Who do we have left to root for? Maybe Tara but nobody else I can think of. It really is about time to wrap up Sons of Anarchy.

You know, I fully understand the posts regarding the Wendy "discussion" with Jax .. but I'm going to take another direction at it .. Jax has certainly spiraled down this season, agreed .. however, if you take this one incident with Wendy, a case could be made in his defense .. she threatened his family .. he took what action he felt would immediately end the threat .. I'm not saying his action was normal or acceptable, but in his world it was his solution .. these guys are not interested in the legal system or using methods we would turn to .. they take things into their own hands .. you threaten the family, which is as sacred as anything could be, your're going to suffer the consequences ..

I found the beating of Otto by the Marshal much more over the top than the Wendy scene ..
post #1012 of 1214
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

Noticed right away but wasn't 99% sure because I thought Dave is even a little shorter. smile.gif
larry

I had just finished catching up on a couple episodes of "Ink Master" before watching this SOA episode .. I kinda had to do a double take when I saw him .. I checked it with a search and apparently we may be treated to a Janes Addiction cover of "Sympathy for the Devil" for the finale this year .. now that would be very appropriate ..

We've had some guests this year .. I'll never forget Walton Goggins .. that was priceless TV ..
post #1013 of 1214
Shaping up to be a bloody finale with a high body count... Might be some more work for Steven King, aka "The Cleaner"..eek.gif
post #1014 of 1214
Just got caught up and too noticed the Navarro cameo. I also realized the clubs lawyer is played by Robin Weigert aka Calamity Jane on deadwood. Imagine a sit down between her and Unser at the clubs bar over a bottle of whiskey! Even the club members would be disturbed by the profanity smile.gif
post #1015 of 1214
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

Anyone notice the Dave Navarro cameo .. ??
Noticed right away but wasn't 99% sure because I thought Dave is even a little shorter. smile.gif

larry
I thought it was him but didn't see him in the credits on imdb and assumed I must have been wrong.
post #1016 of 1214
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

Thinking about the Tig situation I thought of that, too. But having a "peaceful' transition in the Pope empire with no retaliation would be stretch even for this show. Samcro can be exterminated in a blink of an eye if Pope's minions wanted to do it. But, like always with this show, "ya never know!". smile.gif Although, if Pope was killed with no trace back to Samcro, it might work. Pope has to be dead for Tig to live. However, does Jax really give AFF if Tig lives or not? TIg is the one that went off to kill Opie even though it was on Clay's orders.

larry
Based on the previews for the next episode ...
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
It looks like Jax leads Tig into a trap and then pulls a gun on him.     And since previews are full of cheap deception, I'm going to put the odds of Tig dying at 100 to 1.  
Yes, I agree, previews are seldom definitive.

larry
post #1017 of 1214
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I thought that what Jax did to Wendy was horrifying. I have long understood what monsters Clay and Gemma were but Jax has become every bit as monstrous. As we have frequently been told, the SOA gavel really does corrupt. Who do we have left to root for? Maybe Tara but nobody else I can think of. It really is about time to wrap up Sons of Anarchy.

Evidently he didn't go far enough with Wendy. I thought he brought Tig there to do much worse.
post #1018 of 1214
I had a feeling Jax wouldn't let Tig die, but that wasn't how I envisioned it going down. Like I said previously, I thought it was going to be Pope's #2 who turned on him.

That scene with Otto was quite disturbing. If it were me, I think I'd just decide not to talk. Seems like that would be a much simpler option, don't you. tongue.gif

So, I know Gemma threatened Tara with what happened, but was it in fact her who set her up?

Loved the scene with Tig and the dog on the chair at the end. I have a soft spot for animals.

Bobby and Juice have become whining *******.

I don't know about all of you, but if Jax starts to become another Clay, there won't be anyone to root for in this show and that will make the next two seasons quite unenjoyable IMO.
post #1019 of 1214
I could have done without the dog fighting scene.
I'm not sure what the point of the brother/Marshall was now since he did nothing last night. My only guess is he is a set up for next season to be a thorn in the club's side.
Otto takes one for the club again.
Strange how Pope had his smallest contingent with him at that warehouse, how convenient. And we are supposed to believe that his company will just keep going on as usual with him now dead?
We are being led to believe that Gemma spilled the beans on Tara when she made her statement about Clay. If so, just how will that go over with Jax? Is keeping his kids and the club really going to out weigh his wife going to jail?
So I guess Nero will be back next season.
Is Clay really going to be offed in prison? I'm sure there will be someway for him to survive.
I laugh every time I see Phil on a bike or in the club, he just doesn't fit the bill.

9 months until the new season.
post #1020 of 1214
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Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post

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I don't know about all of you, but if Jax starts to become another Clay, there won't be anyone to root for in this show and that will make the next two seasons quite unenjoyable IMO.

 

I think Jax has already become another Clay, or at least close enough.   I stopped rooting for Jax a long time ago.   The only two guys worth rooting for were Opie and Piney and they are both dead.   I hope Unser outlives them all.    Why would anybody want to be a part of this club?   How many members have now been killed and/or jailed for life as a direct result of another club member?  

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