NAD M15HD Surround Sound Processor - Page 8

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Do you have a link to that thread?

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Does who have a link to *this* thread?

Why are you posting in this thread about the NAD M15HD then?

JohnNY-C, this is what you posted " in terms of price/performance (which was the inspiration for my M15 "best value in audio" thread), "
Just wondering if you had a link to this "my M15 "best value in audio" thread"?

Because this is where the conversation about the M15HD allegedly takes place. I thought that's why all of us were here. No? So far, this thread has not done very well staying on topic, IMHO. Case in point.

M-15HD is not enough bang for buck. What NAD sould do is take the extra dollars they made and fix the T175 for the poor people who were burned on that one

would be nice. If anything they should give (huge) discount for original release T175 owners toward purchase of M15HD. Although my unit has performed fairly well despite some initial erratic behavior (ie. popping, etc.,...).

I would definitely purchase an M15HD wrather than upgrade to the new cards on my T175 (for approx $1500.00)

I predict very good reviews for the M15HD

I agree, they should help the T175 owners. But if a 175 owner buys a M15HD with out a big discount, than shame on them. I would never allow a company to treat me like that with out trying to help me with the current problems with the receiver if that is the case, then you purchase by appliqués, and its is your just desert

Are you shilling for NAD? If not, then great news: there is a trade-in program for M15s and I'm sure that any authorized NAD dealer woudl take your 175 as a trade.

A T175 is worth a bit less than a grand. Heck, I would buy yours for $800 all-day-long (PM me).

Something that sounds good always sounds good: there's intrinsic value there which can't be washed away.

My issue is the M15HD is twice the price of M15 where I live, I'm sure its not twice as good soundwise although it has some new features.

Nad has always been about great value for money, I'm now not sure with this new preamp.

This has moved me towards the camp of Classe SSP800 and the new Anthem AV2(has a great review also) sure more money.

I run the M15 and certainly have been happy with it.

Its a dilemma as my initial purchase Blue ray BD80 Panasonic player has rendered my Nad M55 DVD player redundant save for SACD, for a lot less money.

Spending ever larger amounts on what will become redundant even quicker than what I last bought has me perplexed.

I mean the giants are now talking 3D will that mean all new players, preamps, projectors in the next 2 to 3 years.

It might not be worth twice the price when it comes to the sound quality, but the modular design DEFINITELY makes it worth it in my eyes. Think about how much you save being able to just upgrade a module instead of the whole pre/pro!

One trick is to be patient, if it's anything like most units the price will come down a bit once the early adopters get their fill. I think HDMI is in a period of stability, and as inviting as 3D seems the reality is there's still a ton of the market not even into hi-def yet, so it'll be while before that goes mainstream. That also is a video app isn't it? So all that would be required is pass-through to the display.
When you compare the M15HD to pricier units then it becomes a real subjective analysis. I maintain there's a point where they'll all sound more alike than different and from there it's about what you want from a front end feature and price-wise.
Modular architecture is a fantastic concept if the manufacturer backs it up with actual modules in the future. (I think it was Integra that had modular unit that never ended up having any upgraded modules.) There's no reason to think NAD won't.

You make a valid point with the modular design. But I have seen a number of AVR/prepros over the years with a modular design but with no upgrades made available from the manufacturer. So the concept is a great one but if NAD does not offer updated modules in the future it is all for not. I'm not saying NAD will not offer future upgrades but it is not guaranteed.

Bill

I would wager that NAD continues their tradition of taking care of customers and releases new modules - no worries here.

My S-170 was upgradeable. Did they offer an upgrade? Yes, to the new S-170i. How much to upgrade? $750. Ouch.
My M15 was upgradeable. Did they offer an upgrade? No. Well, maybe if there's a trade-in to the M15HD, but that's not what NAD promised. I'm not saying they won't, but their track record for the high-end gear speaks loudly.
I'm going to take the wait and see approach when it comes to the M15HD. Not that I don't trust NAD... wait - I kinda don't.

What tradition? Do you have a history of available upgrades that back up this statement?

Didn't NAD recently have a change of ownership, something to do with PSB or was that the other way around?

Perhaps if they did, there might be a new approach/philosophy to go along with it...

They upgraded me from an M15 to an M15HD Traditionally, that doesn't happen with most companies.

John, was that Spearit Sound or NAD corporate or a combination of both? How did the trade-in work? A certain Dollar amount applied against full retail? Do you mind sharing specifics?

I'm not sure so I'm not going to say anything specific. I was offered a fixed amount for the M15 and then told the net amount I would owe, and I accepted the generous offer.

Does that answer your question?

Honestly, it might be the, *Dick Moulding Special* but I thought that it was generous & solid. I'm not sure if he want to baby people that don't want to pull the trigger on a purchase so I'm going to say outright that I've never "haggled" with him: just have been offered fair prices and "hit" his offers.

John

I'm not 100% certain, but I believe it is Spearit Sound. I know when I was looking into the NAD M15 I was told of this upgrade promotion from Spearit Sound. Local dealer did not mention this trade in offer.

It clearly had to be NAD, otherwise how are we to interpret his earlier posts?

Yep, sounds like Spearit Sound then.

Most threads would be happy to have Roger in their thread(s) always a plus. I see him helping people all over the forums guess he has more free time these days .

Daniel.

JohnNY-C,

What exactly is your problem with my participating here? Is this "The official NAD M15HD owners and worshipers only" thread? Get over it. Make your childish posts, and I'll make mine as I see fit.

Please list any misinformation I have posted. I'll be happy to correct it. Would you like to reciprocate?

Those are your posts.

How Have I distorted the truth? Did I not merely repeat exactly what you yourself stated? If I misinterpreted, I'm sorry. Please explain the actual situation regarding NAD's upgrade policy. Thanks.

Had the KEFs hooked-up to these Adcom GFA 565 Monoblock Beasts today. They really controlled the speakers well and let the NAD's precision shine. Anything percussive sounded phenomenal (and the mid-range was almost as smooth as my Quad 909 (perfect pair with the iQ90s, I've found. Still, patiently, waiting on that deal for KEF References...)). The drum solo in Coltrane's, A Love Supreme, was much more musical and engaging with the Adcoms paired with the M15HD and KEF iQs.



John