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post #151 of 6427
9/11/08 at 8:42am
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Maybe I didn't understand exactly how it went down, but did they actually give the immunity in the deaths of 140+ people just to get the list of chemicals that were in the garages, so they could save one person? Is that right? Or did I misunderstand what the immunity was for..??

That's not what happened. It wasn't explicitely stated, but the scientist's son extracted the information regarding chemicals from him by breaking fingers with a coffee cup. Remember, she says, "We can't do this." and he says, "YOU can't do this." Smash fingers. The scene immediately cuts to the lab where the antidote is under production. He had no immunity.
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post #152 of 6427
9/11/08 at 8:44am
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Originally Posted by logicalnoise View Post

Yeah his son explained how there's only two lines of DNA that seperate cows form us and walter said" ah yes but of course humans would bext....unless you needed milk then a cow would indeed be best"

Him watching spongebob was damn hilarious.

Also:

"I just pissed myself! No, no. It was just a little squirt"

I lol'ed at that.
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post #153 of 6427
9/11/08 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by c.kingsley View Post

That's not what happened. It wasn't explicitely stated, but the scientist's son extracted the information regarding chemicals from him by breaking fingers with a coffee cup. Remember, she says, "We can't do this." and he says, "YOU can't do this." Smash fingers. The scene immediately cuts to the lab where the antidote is under production. He had no immunity.

When she met him later in the hospital she clearly told him that she would still keep her word as to his immunity.
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post #154 of 6427
9/11/08 at 9:43am
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Originally Posted by DJ Matt View Post

By the way, did anyone notice that Torv's face varied from shot to shot at times? In some scenes you could clearly see her freckles, but then in the same scene when the camera went back to her you didn't notice it as much. Maybe its just me.

I definitely noticed. There was one scene in particular near the end with Torv and Lance Reddick--you could see every single pore on Reddick's face, but when they cut to Torv, it was much softer.
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post #155 of 6427
9/11/08 at 10:04am
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Originally Posted by IrmoGamecoq View Post

When she met him later in the hospital she clearly told him that she would still keep her word as to his immunity.

In fairness, two things hold:

1. Agreements reached with investigators hardly constitute agreements with the court.

2. If I am killing folks on behalf of an evil corporation more powerful that the Stonecutters, an immunity agreement is purely for the sake of delaying the investigator.
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post #156 of 6427
9/11/08 at 10:16am
I think the premise of all these wacko technologies appearing (the bionic arm, for example) has to be taken as a presumed context of the show, itself. That is- we have an idea of what is possible and what is not in current technology in our conventional world. However, the whole nature of the show premises (hence the term "fringe") that there is a whole other world out there that has been kept under wraps from the common man (which naturally opens the door for all sorts of zany antics for the show). Why is it kept under wraps?...because the regular guy on the street could not handle that knowledge or be responsible of the ramifications of that technology. Civilization would degenerate into "X-men anarchy".

So we get glimpses of oddball stuff in the show that are rather fanciful in the context of conventional technology, but are premised to be possible and actually functional on the fringe.
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post #157 of 6427
9/11/08 at 1:08pm
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Originally Posted by mac707 View Post

Also:

"I just pissed myself! No, no. It was just a little squirt"

I lol'ed at that.

No kidding... I just about pissed myself laughing at that one...

Yep, the best lines were from the crazy one!
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post #158 of 6427
9/11/08 at 1:40pm
Did anyone catch what Mark Valley's character said as he was dying? Was it plot related, or just an "Ill always love you, blah, blah..."?
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post #159 of 6427
9/11/08 at 1:44pm
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Did anyone catch what Mark Valley's character said as he was dying? Was it plot related, or just an "Ill always love you, blah, blah..."?

He said something like—“Ask yourself why he chose you, ask-- why he picked you to go in the plane.” Something spooky like that.
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post #160 of 6427
9/11/08 at 2:22pm
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

He said something like—“Ask yourself why he chose you, ask-- why he picked you to go in the plane.” Something spooky like that.

It was why was she picked to go and investigate the storage facility.

Maybe G-man knew that the guy was there ready to blow crap up and either she or Scott would get killed/injured, or maybe he knew what was waiting and that it would be a test for her as a recruit.

A test would make sense since G-man already said there had been other incidents and he didn't seem too concerned whether she solved the case or not. They could have already had the cure and just wanted to see how creative she was coming up with another solution.

Of course this was also written by the same guys who gave us Transformers, so logic and sense are not high on my expectations list.
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post #161 of 6427
9/11/08 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

It was why was she picked to go and investigate the storage facility.

I wasn't too sure what it was but- yes-- "storage facility" makes more sense than "airplane," especially with your supposition.
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Maybe G-man knew that the guy was there ready to blow crap up and either she or Scott would get killed/injured, or maybe he knew what was waiting and that it would be a test for her as a recruit.

A test would make sense since G-man already said there had been other incidents and he didn't seem too concerned whether she solved the case or not. They could have already had the cure and just wanted to see how creative she was coming up with another solution.
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post #162 of 6427
9/11/08 at 2:30pm
Nice HD PQ, and pretty female lead, but a bit too much of a stretch for me.....
the mind-meld thing and her willingness to do it was too far over the top,
and the plot twists were nothing new. Watchable, but nothing special, IMO.
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post #163 of 6427
9/11/08 at 2:36pm
Okay, thanks, that's sort of how I remembered it as well.
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post #164 of 6427
9/11/08 at 2:38pm
If this show gets canceled, they'll rework the remaining scripts into a totally new series called the Dana Scully Chronicles!
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post #165 of 6427
9/11/08 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by jason10mm View Post

Really? I thought the first couple of seasons of X-files were STRONGLY MoW-centric, and I lost interest when so much effort was spent on the abduction/cancer man/black eye juice/neck stabbing stuff that I KNEW it would never come together.

Obviously Fringe dropped a bazillion clues to further developments. So many in fact they succeeded in making their lead star look like an inept, whiney, punk relying on her looks to get anywhere. At no point did we see her act as a "liason" for anything, and aside from some google-fu and convincing a rather swishy man to join her team, she did nothing that the black lead agent couldn't have done instead. It took swishy to "break" the bad guy, heck he was the one who CAUGHT the bad guy!

I'll keep watching because Walter amuses me and hopefully they manage to be more creative with the cases. But I suspect most eps will start with an odd phenomenon, the Agents will show up, and Walter will say something along the lines of "I was working on something like this back in 1985...." and off we go! They have until Heroes and Chuck start anyway, by then my TV time is gonna be limited.


You know I graduated high school in 1985... Suddenly I feel very old. And cold, & I don't know what time it is.
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post #166 of 6427
9/11/08 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

I wasn't too sure what it was but- yes-- "storage facility" makes more sense than "airplane," especially with your supposition.

alternatively Scott could have been just screwing with her as a last evil joke. A future scene after weeks of tension and build-up could go like this:

The Torv: "Why me? Why did you choose to send me to the facility with just Scott and no backup?

The G-man: "Because you really pissed me off and you were always whining around the office about being "the liaison" and you should have more co-operation, blah blah. Jeez, you just wouldn't shut up. I don't need more stress. How do you think I lost the hair?"

The Torv: "Scott, you bastard. When I find your stored brain waves I'm going to delete them forever."
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post #167 of 6427
9/11/08 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Okay, thanks, that's sort of how I remembered it as well.

Thanks to the technology of Massive Dynamics you don't need to remember it. The folks at Hulu can remember it for you wholesale.

Well, they can keep it on the servers for a while so you can check what happened at least.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/33786/fringe-pilot
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post #168 of 6427
9/11/08 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Maybe I didn't understand exactly how it went down, but did they actually give the immunity in the deaths of 140+ people just to get the list of chemicals that were in the garages, so they could save one person? Is that right? Or did I misunderstand what the immunity was for..??

I liked the show, as long as it doesn't get too stupid ala Prison Break/24. The production of the pilot had a film-like finish to it, hopefully that will be retained as the series moves along. I also think Anna Torv has a certain "hotness" about her, not starlet-like as others have noted, but definitely beautiful in her own way.

Surprised nobody's mentioned "Altered States"' in reference to the isolation tank sequence, am I showing my age on that one..??

I see LL3HD mentioned it while I was typing this post. Did anyone see any ape-men running around that lab by chance?

Don't forget that AHA! video either. The first video I ever saw on MTv (back when they actually played music videos ) was Kids in America. I had a belt made out of onions too.






And wwwwweeeeeee liked it that way!!!
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post #169 of 6427
9/11/08 at 3:13pm
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

Thanks to the technology of Massive Dynamics you don't need to remember it. The folks at Hulu can remember it for you wholesale.

Well, they can keep it on the servers for a while so you can check what happened at least.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/33786/fringe-pilot

I've still got it on the DVR, I was just too lazy to play it back - just wanted to make sure I heard what everyone else did.
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post #170 of 6427
9/11/08 at 3:21pm
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Originally Posted by IrmoGamecoq View Post


When the Massive Dynamic Executive whipped out her bionic hand, I thought "what year is this supposed to be?" It was definitely a strange moment.

Definitely strange, I thought I had a sense of the ground floor of what the show was about, the style, the plot construction...and then that arm came out and the floor fell out below me. It was like, okay, wait a minute, where are we at and where are we going now with this thing?

BTW, some speculation here, I'll bet the Mr. Bell of MD is not actually alive in the physical sense, he's probably been downloaded to a computer and the arm woman is his link to the physical world...or maybe I've just had too much wine...
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post #171 of 6427
9/11/08 at 4:18pm
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

BTW, some speculation here, I'll bet the Mr. Bell of MD is not actually alive in the physical sense, he's probably been downloaded to a computer and the arm woman is his link to the physical world...or maybe I've just had too much wine...

Since the only person who has seen Bell is crazy scientist guy, we just have to watch out for the person who never appears in the same room as him.

They don't even show his photo on their fake site so it might finish with a Saw twist.

"Zoiks! It was him/her all along!"
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post #172 of 6427
9/11/08 at 7:09pm
Observations and reactions:

-- The chemistry between Mulder and Scully (whatever their names are) was very weak.

-- Denethor was funny (esp. "just a little squirt").

-- Visible Man effect was well done.

-- Twist after Visible Man returned to opacity was a surprise, and a welcome one.

-- The location graphics were absolutely obnoxious. Especially when we went through one and then saw it from the other side! Stupid. Moronic.

-- The gore in the opening scene was impressive, particularly the jaw-dropper.
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post #173 of 6427
9/11/08 at 7:11pm
I think one of the location graphics actually had its own sound effect as we flew through it in the scene!
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post #174 of 6427
9/12/08 at 4:15am
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Originally Posted by IAM4UK View Post

Observations and reactions:

-- The chemistry between Mulder and Scully (whatever their names are) was very weak.

-- Denethor was funny (esp. "just a little squirt").

-- Visible Man effect was well done.

-- Twist after Visible Man returned to opacity was a surprise, and a welcome one.

-- The location graphics were absolutely obnoxious. Especially when we went through one and then saw it from the other side! Stupid. Moronic.

-- The gore in the opening scene was impressive, particularly the jaw-dropper.

I agree with all of this, although I have high hopes that the chemistry will develop between the pretty young FBI agent and the brilliant scientist's brilliant son. After all, in the first episode, The girl is in love with another man and the guy has been blackmailed into helping her get in to see her father in the mental institution. Thus, neither was even slightly romantically inclined toward the other. I can't imagine that their personal relationship won't warm up over time, at least I hope it will.
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post #175 of 6427
9/12/08 at 6:04am
Interesting website for Massive Dynamics - Job postings, contacts, news (one refers to the particle collider project) Wonder if they're taking the Lost approach.

http://www.massivedynamic.com/index.php

If not taken seriously, the shows appears to be somewhat entertaining. Just have to see what direction they go in.
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post #176 of 6427
9/12/08 at 6:07am
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

I agree with all of this, although I have high hopes that the chemistry will develop between the pretty young FBI agent and the brilliant scientist's brilliant son. After all, in the first episode, The girl is in love with another man and the guy has been blackmailed into helping her get in to see her father in the mental institution. Thus, neither was even slightly romantically inclined toward the other. I can't imagine that their personal relationship won't warm up over time, at least I hope it will.

It was pretty clear to me that the guy was diffinatly into her by the end of the pilot.
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post #177 of 6427
9/12/08 at 6:25am
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Originally Posted by logicalnoise View Post

It was pretty clear to me that the guy was diffinatly into her by the end of the pilot.

Well, sure... he got to see her in her underwear before they even had a date!
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post #178 of 6427
9/12/08 at 6:27am
I think, perhaps, one of the most interesting things that remains to be seen is:

Will all the haters/critics/naysayers still come back to the thread next week after watching the show again, to tell us how bad it is?
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post #179 of 6427
9/12/08 at 6:27am
They were playing up their interest in each other half way into the pilot.
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post #180 of 6427
9/12/08 at 6:59am
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Originally Posted by Rhyvven View Post

I think, perhaps, one of the most interesting things that remains to be seen is:

Will all the haters/critics/naysayers still come back to the thread next week after watching the show again, to tell us how bad it is?

For that matter, how many people will come back to comment about the haters posting about the show.....
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