"Fringe" on Fox HD - Page 121

They use a red filter when switching from our universe to the altverse. When going back to ours there is a blue shift.

I said this recently to a friend who just finished season 1 Fringe is not a show that you can watch in the background as there are things happening both visually and via sound (sorry brain fart) that you will miss if you are not paying attention. This is one of those shows where it there is a great payoff if you pay attention while watching. Heck I know I usually watch each episode at least twice.

Statue of liberty and zeppelins are standard intros into alt world scenes, and having Charlie or Olivia's mom in a scene makes it obvious at a glance, too. I know the opening credits are red for alt world episodes, but I usually am not paying enough attention to notice it then. Olivia is back to her regular hair color so only AltLiv is a redhead right now.

Walter in a suit, Lincoln without Clark Kent glasses, Astrid in her beanie, easy to see at a glance.

Just watched this episode last night; is anyone else a "Bloom County" fan? Showing an original comic in the alt universe was a very special treat, even if Opus was a 'pea hen' instead of a penguin. The strip was even contemporary, the topic was Lindsay Loh-. LOL

I wonder how they got Berkely Breathed to do it?

Alter-Astrid is bizarre, isn't she? She seems to have some form of very high functioning autism, an idiot savant of data analysis: computing and statistics and probabilities. The actor (Jasika Nicole) plays out the various tics of the character pretty well--speaking in a near monotone, standing between Charlie and Linc and relating her findings to them while staring into space, unable to maintain eye contact for more than a fraction of a second.

What tells you that they have no vaccination tech? Is it that we've stamped out all viral disease in this world? Perhaps it's those wonderful HIV and Ebola vaccines that we have ?

HIV is a pandemic, particularly in the third world. We don't have a vaccine for it and we don't have it under control. We know precautions to take to avoid contracting it, and we have some extremely expensive treatments which can combat the symptoms of AIDS for some people who have access and the means to afford them, but an estimated 1.8 million people died of AIDs in 2009, and the WHO lists it as the 6th most frequent cause of death worldwide.

I think that the virus with which Fauxlivia is inflicted is something like that; some retrovirus which can only multiply under certain conditions.

I seem to remember AltLivia making the comment to Frank that you'd think there would be a vaccine for smallpox by now. It was a small outbreak in 'remote' North Texas.

In our world, smallpox is the only human contagious disease we have globally eradicated. We landed on the moon nine years before the last official diagnosis of naturally occurring smallpox. In the Fringe alt-world, there is no cancer.

I never made the connection. I was wondering why the change in the intro.

All the other differences (that have just been mentioned) are mostly clear. It's not until then was I sure where they were.

The coded image after each chapter with the white dot in various positions, I know that means something and that the 'code' was broken. Anyone have a link to what all those images mean??

Google "fringe glyphs" and take your pick. Each corresponds to a letter and they all spell out a word. I used to work them out every week, but inasmuch as the words don't seem to deliver any useful insight into what's going on, I stopped caring a while back.

"glyphs"? Sheesh! Sorry I asked.

Something different for each episode? What does this guy do that cracked this, work for the DOD cryptic division?

Sure did. We paused and tried to read the whole strip but the resolution on my new LHX just wasnt' quite there. My bet is Breathed is a big fan of the show. And when JJ Abrams calls and asks for a favor, how can a true fan say no?

Well, the subject was somewhat touched on in an ep from early Season 1 (I don't remember what caused it, or if the event was mirrored in the Altverse). In fact, they ripped-off most of that opening scene and dialogue from a Season 4 episode of Smallville.

That actually turned me off from Fringe, and I didn't come back until this season. The show has quite turned around, IMO.

Thanks for that screenshot, Matt. My local fishwrap used to carry the Sunday Opus strip, but stopped awhile ago. Wonder if he's still doing it?

Me too, and one would hope that ratings meisters would somehow be able to count DVR viewers who are recording on Saturday night. Even when March madness ends, I'm still going to have to deal with occasional recording conflicts on Friday night. This is my only beef with Fringe moving to Friday, but Saturday repeats effectively solve this problem.

Another advantage for Walternate could be the opportunity to have a relationship he missed much of with Peter. But this does present an interesting question. Does the accelerated growth only occur during the pregnancy, or will it continue throughout the child's life?

I caught it last night (yes, I knew it was repeated). I thought it was a very good episode. The only reason I can come up with for Walternate not telling Liv about the treatment and kidnapping her is deniablity.

Her character has Asperger's:

http://www.aspergers.com

I listen to the Fringe podcast and they interviewed her recently...she specifically mentioned that this is what "Kick Astrid" has (she also mentioned that this was her "alt" name)

I have a feeling the accelerated growth will continue...Walternate keeps saying he will not test children...well what about an adult that happens to be the son of someone "special" like Peter?

I knew about Asperger's--there was a priniciple character on Boston Legal who had it--so that had occurred to me. Thanks.

Great episode! I know I'm coming in a little late in the game, but Sunday evening is usually my time to watch it. First, Seth Gabel rocks! I've like Lincoln the best from the Alt Universe. I wish he was the one being added as a regular cast member.

I had an idea pretty early on when the baby first showed it was getting bigger in the ultrasound thingy that they were going to make her have it quick....and that led directly to the thought of, "oh they want to try him out in the machine". With the early showing of the Observer though, that threw me off, until moments before Walternate got the blood card, when I realized it was him.

The birth scene was excellent; just another example of Seth and Anna's great work on this show! Seth can really sell some emotion in close-ups, with the tiniest twitches of facial expressions. Wish we had time to learn more about Alt-Astrid but with only 4 episodes to go, I think there are more important things to unravel. And yes, I would expect the baby to continue to grow in an accelerated fashion.

3 weeks is waaaaaay too long.

Nah, they make it pretty clear if you pay attention, which this show requires anyway. Red titles for Alt; Blue for us. Statue of Liberty is copper-colored over there. Their Charlie is still alive. Olivia has brownish hair. Plus there's always some crazy skylights and zeppelins in the air. There are some more subtle clues that can be seen in screen grabs or dialogue. Various newspaper headlines, casual references to rare things to them that are common here, etc. These more intricate clues aren't necessary though; but they are fun to find for the hardcore fan.

The plots aren't so separated--at least to me--that I'm confused about what happens where. They've really written it quite brilliantly to make it flow together.

Overall, it's certainly not for the casual viewer. Then there's the other extreme of casual....the glyphs and finding the Observer in every episode for the hardcore fans. I even remember back in season 1 when there were a series of green and red dots that were hidden in several episodes; then the episode came on to show what they were all about. I've got the photo of the glyph code saved on my phone and sometimes I'll pull it out to see what the word ends up being, but more often than not I don't. Several sites have the words of episode in a list. I've given up trying to find the Observer. They got crazy sneaky this season.

Yes, they do read whats out on the net and are aware of most of the fan sites\\forums. In a recent interview with Josh Jackson he mentions the fans on the net and some of the "extra" work they put into watching the show and discovering the little hidden things dispursed throughout each episode...

Supposedly they adopted the name "Fauxlivia" from chatter on the net .

I have a simple theory as to why Walternate didn't just ask Folivia to do an accelerated birth; why all the cloak and dagger: What if Folivia said no. This way, Walternate took that choice away from her, and insured the outcome he wanted: his grandson being born.

A little late to the party, but I'm also relieved and incredibly happy that we're getting another season of Fringe. When I read that it was renewed, I said, "Thank God!" I had this sense of dread for weeks, whenever I'd read about the ratings for Fringe. This really is the best show on television right now.

They did her original name in the script was Bolivia, but that never caught any steam as people seemed to call he Fauxlivia and Altivia even when knowing that technically they were not correct. Eventually they stuck with Fauxlivia (I'm guessing) so as not to confuse the fans LOL.

The smallpox pathogen is alive, well and hibernating in hundreds of graveyards all over the world just waiting patiently to be uncovered and spread by the unlucky or the malignant terrorist. We have no vaccine for it.

I still want to know why Peter isn't AltPeter or something... since technically, he isn't the "real" Peter in the same way as the others...

The only reasonable expliation I can think of is that since Walter kidnapped him and passed him off as "Peter" we call him Peter. If they called him Alt-Peter it would ruin the connection that has been built between him and "our" side.

I believe it was FauxOlivia only when she was pretending to be 'our' Olivia in the blue world. When she's in her own universe, she's no longer fake, so I call her AltLiv. Who besides the writers calls the other world the "B" world? BOlivia sounds like a country. But maybe when we get the "C" world (aka yellow), I'll change my mind.

Boston Legal concentrated more on the character's Tourette's syndrome. The term 'idiot savant' was a label applied to a man with Down syndrome. Psychologists officially stopped using 'idiot' (IQ<30) as a diagnostic label decades ago. They probably never should have used it, as it was already an offensive slang term. It would not apply to Asperger's syndrome, which by definition is on the high functioning end of the autism spectrum.

The people I know with Asperger's see things with fresh eyes. The inability to generalize is a strength when small differences matter. They are lost in implied, situation-dependent, socially understood 'rules' of behavior, but they notice even the smallest change, and are able to unconditionally accept individual differences without criticism. I'm an Astrid fan, in both worlds, although I liked her better in the blue world when they wrote her as looking out for Walter behind the scenes. Lately she's been more annoyed at him.

There's only one of him now; we don't need an alternate name. We don't say "altCharlie" either.

so where's the true love story, with faux-olivia or our olivia?
crossing dimensions to find your true love or conquering them?
man this show is good....