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post #421 of 6427
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

To take it further, the latest episode made a wink in the direction of another similar film to airplane: The Big Bus. They even played the piano in the lab like the guy does in the lounge section of the bus in the movie.

And they also had a bus in the episode opening. Hmmmm ...
post #422 of 6427
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Either a wink, or they're raiding the disaster-movie pantry for clever ideas, perhaps because they're so bereft of their own.

So, upcoming episodes will include?:

- An Earthquake that devistates the city (Earthquake)
- A fire in a high rise (The Towering Inferno)
- The perils of Global Warming (The Day After Tomorrow)
- A railway disaster involving toxic materials (Atomic Train)
- A weather disaster involving toxic materials (Atomic Twister)
- A weather disater without toxic materials (Twister)
- Volcanic Activity (Volcano / Dante's Peak)

The problem I see is, unless there's a guy with a white cat involved, there's no "Fringe Science" involved unless it involves stopping the events - something that would generate a lot of notice in the scientific community. I mean, Walter is the one guy in the world that can stop an earthquake - and we locked the guy up?

Besides, Walter's science would be inneffective against a giant drill meant to destabilize the Earth's core....
post #423 of 6427
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

I mean, Walter is the one guy in the world that can stop an earthquake - and we locked the guy up?

Earthquakes are good for business.
post #424 of 6427
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Besides, Walter's science would be inneffective against a giant drill meant to destabilize the Earth's core....

In "The Core," it was actually a nuke that was supposed to "re-start the rotation of the Earth's core" or somesuch.

In that episode, we'll find out that Walter buried a nuclear bomb in the backyard of their old homestead.
post #425 of 6427
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Ah, two of our more perceptive members are onto something here. I think they missed a great opportunity. 'Fringe' should have been played for laughs!

We already have (or had) that show. It's called "The MiddleMan," last seen on ABCFamily.
post #426 of 6427
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Originally Posted by IrmoGamecoq View Post

In "The Core," it was actually a nuke that was supposed to "re-start the rotation of the Earth's core" or somesuch.

In that episode, we'll find out that Walter buried a nuclear bomb in the backyard of their old homestead.

...made from some cured mushrooms, an 8-Track player and the radioactive dial from an alarm clock.

He'll need cocaine to shrink the seals on the payload assembly for best performance, of course...
post #427 of 6427
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

We already have (or had) that show. It's called "The MiddleMan," last seen on ABCFamily.

I was actually thinking the same thing....
post #428 of 6427
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

Walter is the one guy in the world that can stop an earthquake - and we locked the guy up?

In fairness, there are a couple implication in Walter's backstory:

1. His various partners in research were glad to proceed without him and profit by his efforts while Walter rotted.

Think about it this way. Walter is worth billions in past patents. He's probably also worth billions in lawsuits. Take the good inventions, never pay the patents. Bury Walter in a nut ward and never face the lawsuits.

2. Walter isn't innocent in any of this. At all. The only question with Walter is whether he's evil or just so absent minded in the pursuit of science that leaving a trail of bodies behind him is immaterial to the goal.

3. Walter's time in the nut ward stems from deep fear and loathing over what he has done.

Taken as a whole, Walter being left in a nut ward is one of the more cohesive parts of Fringe's backstory.
post #429 of 6427
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

...made from some cured mushrooms, an 8-Track player and the radioactive dial from an alarm clock.

He'll need cocaine to shrink the seals on the payload assembly for best performance, of course...

Yup. Fringe is what MacGuyver would have been without a moral compass.
post #430 of 6427
tonights episode was okay. the story line seems to be progressing. 2 weeks before another show. should be a ton of drop off in the ratings because of it. the man with no brows and the next episode with a guy who can control magnets. seems very very xfiles like with the no brows man being very much like the guy who helped moulder out
post #431 of 6427
I would say tonights episode was very good if not also very strange. The observer is a nice element as I have noticed him in scenes since the pilot, so its nice to see they are addressing what or who he could be.
post #432 of 6427
Fringe is growing on me some. I'm intrigued. Still on my watch list.
post #433 of 6427
Fringe is episodes (possibly episode) away from being removed from my DVR permanently. Its not Lost, it does not have the character drama to support the show and cannot completely rely on the mystery to keep the forward momentum. I'm sorry, but the show is just boring and already getting repetitive. Do I care about any of the characters? Nope...well maybe the father, he's the only likable one and yet, he's linked (somehow) to all of these events. Its just not even close to be rational or believable. There is something big missing from the show...and I doubt its going to find it...
post #434 of 6427
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Originally Posted by lax01 View Post

There is something big missing from the show...and I doubt its going to find it...

Maybe they should introduce "Smoky" into Fringe.

Anyway, the Walter character is actually well acted by John Noble. He's playing that role well. The Peter Bishop role, on the other hand is rather irritating and grating -- which I believe in intentional. I think that he will evolve into a less irritating character as the show progresses. The Olivia character, IMO, appears rather shallow and disjointed. Maybe it's the writing or the acting, but I feel no connection or investment in her at all.

The "Twilight Zone-ish" episodes are rather entertaining. I was disappointed the first few weeks because I was expecting more "science" and less "fiction." But, as it turns out, it's just the other way around -- which makes it rather corny, but if you take it for what it is, then it has some entertainment value.
post #435 of 6427
Wow I actually really liked this week's episode. It had a much better sense of a larger scope, bigger and better mystery and all the character storylines meshed together much better.

I didn't notice who wrote it at the beginning but when I rewound it I wasn't surprised to see JJ in the writing credits. As soon as the Magical Device of Mysterious Origin appeared with everyone fighting over it, I thought "Rambaldi." Maybe The Others fired it through the Earth from the Lost island and we are going to get a crossover.

The observer was an interesting addition but if he turns out to be Data I'm going to be disappointed by the predictability. The signs are there. Eating extremely spicy food because the taste buds are not refined. The stoic expression and mechanical movements. Never growing old. etc.

The part that had me groaning was the story about Walter being rescued from the freezing water by The Observer. A story that's very similar to the movie I, Robot which also features robot design that's almost the same as the arm developed by Massive Dynamics which featured in the first episode.

One other thing that annoyed me because it wasn't addressed was the fact that they acquired what appeared to be a handheld rail gun from the dead guy. Nobody was the slightest bit curious about that even though Torv was getting blasted with it and the warehouse guards got taken out with it.

Something else that was weird, was the bright blue flash that kept appearing along the edges of certain scenes. I couldn't figure out any reason for it. I then thought it might have been some kind of annoying new Fox promo snipe about to appear based on the two that popped up tonight.

Still, for the first time since the show started I'm actually intrigued, but if they go back to a series of Fringe of the week stories in two weeks, that might put a damper on my enthusiasm.
post #436 of 6427
I really liked tonight's episode! I think we are given the first real taste of the "pattern" mystique, and the flavor was delicious to my brain. First thing that ran through my head about the bald guy was "Alien...definitely an alien". I loved the mystery device.

I don't presume that this energy will be in every episode, however. These sorts of episodes will be sprinkled throughout the series, amongst more "generic" Fringe episodes. It's just the nature of the beast, imo, and I'm not really complaining about the "filler" episodes, either. I think it has all been good, so far.

I'm not looking for another "Lost". I'm looking for Fringe. Every show has to be comfortable being, itself. Trying to meet up to somebody's expectations based on another show is just an ingredient for disaster. It's ruined videogame franchises (x being good in its own right, but then someone decides it should be more like y since it is enjoying its own success in a similar genre, and it just ruins what made x good in the first place).
post #437 of 6427
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Originally Posted by MeowMeow View Post

Yup. Fringe is what MacGuyver would have been without a moral compass.

That's because MacGuyver makes his own compass...no big corporate compasses for him...

At any rate, while the episodes aren't getting worse, they aren't improving and the characters just aren't growing on me. Next week will be decision time for me.
post #438 of 6427
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

... while the episodes aren't getting worse, they aren't improving and the characters just aren't growing on me. Next week will be decision time for me.

Highly agree. Also agree with the poster who said that the show should define itself, not become a knock off of Lost or Xfiles. Still I can't help but notice that there are a few elements of several shows thrown in:

Lost - Overall mystery being revealed piece by (annoying) piece.

Xfiles - Something unwordly is going on.

Twilight Zone - Something unexplainable gets explained (sort of)

Chuck (yeah, I said Chuck). Everyweek, some mystery appears. And each week, Walter can dig into something he's done or been involved with in the past (ala Chuck and the intersect) which helps the government agency.

I enjoy the show and have no problem with throwing in plot devices from proven shows. Just hoping the writers have a direction and stick to it.

T
post #439 of 6427
The giant letters looked like they were at least rendered better this week. I didn't notice the jaggies this week at least.

Every time I see them now I think of what they could do with them. Like the ones they had while in the car, I could see a guy on a bicycle running into them.
post #440 of 6427
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Originally Posted by replayrob View Post

I hope we not leading to a steady diet of Walter saying "Oh yes! we did experiment with (insert strange phenomenon of the week here) in 1978..." that will get tiring very quickly.

I thought this, too, at first. But it seems the Pattern is tied to those past experiments. So it follows that we will probably be seeing this "I did something like this back then..." scenario quite a bit...because that's why the Pattern is happening. Possibly Massive Dynamic has uncovered this old research and set off a Pandora's box-scenario which has brought all our characters into play?

I enjoyed this week's episode. I think it made me hooked. It was our first unsolved case, in a way. It felt definitely part of something bigger rather than monster-of-the-week.

There's definitely something up with Walter's son. I don't think he was born "normally". I'm glad he is finally "credentialed". That was starting to bother me.
post #441 of 6427
It was a crucial moment because he is now personally invested into this work via seeking the "truth" to it all, rather than just being Walter's handler or being credentialed.

I think the premise of the series typically implies that all of this stuff has been "known" but still outside the realm of the reality of general people. Like most things hidden (for good intent or not), you cannot keep things buried forever. All of these things are now coming to bear, as they can no longer be controlled or contained. A "new era" with evidently all new rules is struggling into being. Perhaps there is an analogy between this and nuclear proliferation in our real life world?

Also, the sound of that energy weapon was really cool, too!
post #442 of 6427
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Originally Posted by Mr. Hanky View Post

Also, the sound of that energy weapon was really cool, too!

It had a certain metallic "plink" to it that I really liked for some odd reason. I found myself wanting to capture it and use it as a sound in Windows for email notification or an error or something.
post #443 of 6427
The bald guy is probably Powder, returning from where ever he went to in 1995.





Great film by the way, for those who have never seen it.
post #444 of 6427
You might be onto something there!
post #445 of 6427
E online is reporting that Fringe has been picked up for a full season.
post #446 of 6427
The Bald guy was in last weeks episode. If you don't believe me, go to hulu.com and pull up last weeks Fringe episode #3. You will need to fast forward to 42:30 and look for him on the side inside the train. I thought I noticed a weird bald guy standing there last week, and then saw last nights episode I had to go back and check it out. I wonder if he has been in every single episode. Here is the direct link.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/35609/frin...ork#s-p1-so-i0
post #447 of 6427
I think the bald guy is the one who is going around and leaving those big signs everywhere.

Anyone notice this week that they ran out of letters? Before it said "Boston Federal Building" this week they dropped the Boston. Maybe literally.
post #448 of 6427
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

I think the bald guy is the one who is going around and leaving those big signs everywhere.

Anyone notice this week that they ran out of letters? Before it said "Boston Federal Building" this week they dropped the Boston. Maybe literally.

Probably because there was another show with a long title playing at the same building.

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post #449 of 6427
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

I think the bald guy is the one who is going around and leaving those big signs everywhere.

Anyone notice this week that they ran out of letters? Before it said "Boston Federal Building" this week they dropped the Boston. Maybe literally.

Look for next week's plot to involve the team investigating a series of deaths involving huge letters falling from the sky.
post #450 of 6427
I just got around to watching this episode. Holy crap! This is my kind of show. This episode was fantastic. Exactly what I like. Perfect.

So what is the consensus here, is the bald guy from the future or an alien? Was weird that the stuff he used was so old looking but was high tech at the same time.
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