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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I thought that Walter, after they restored his mind, seemed colder and more sane than in the story to this point. Perhaps it's just his insurgent mode.

Or perhaps it's because they restored his mind using the parts that made him cold and sane.
post #5072 of 6427
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Originally Posted by jwebb1970 View Post

This is ep# 19, traditionally the "weird one" of the season. The musical & animated episodes were also the 19th of their respective seasons.

True of the animated one ("Lysergic Acid Diethylamide"), but the musical ("Brown Betty") was the 20th episode of Season 2.
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Originally Posted by Jeremy W View Post

Or perhaps it's because they restored his mind using the parts that made him cold and sane.

That was my first thought, but I didn't think that they actually restored the pieces, but did something with the tissue to prepare an injection to help his brain repair the damage. They certainly didn't perform actual brain surgery.
post #5073 of 6427
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

That was my first thought, but I didn't think that they actually restored the pieces, but did something with the tissue to prepare an injection to help his brain repair the damage. They certainly didn't perform actual brain surgery.

The way it sounded to me was that the incorporation of the previously removed tissue into his brain was what would trigger the healing. The injection of the solution was "brain surgery" minus the actual surgery.
post #5074 of 6427
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Originally Posted by Jeremy W View Post

The way it sounded to me was that the incorporation of the previously removed tissue into his brain was what would trigger the healing. The injection of the solution was "brain surgery" minus the actual surgery.

But they didn't perform surgery to place the pieces back where they came from as Jones did in the unedited timeline. I wouldn't expect him to recover memories from the solution or personality traits. Of course, it's all BS anyway (having brain damage reversed in a matter of minutes by an injection of brain tissue in solution), so anything's possible .
post #5075 of 6427
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Originally Posted by Mr. Hanky View Post

Just when you think you have figured out what everything is about, they spring a whole new universe on ya?

...and isn't the "Fight the Future" name already taken?

... not only that but there could be REPLICANTS running about too. Severed hands ... droids ... return of Spock ... just off the top of my noggin' ...

"I am not a number!" ...
post #5076 of 6427
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Originally Posted by Jeremy W View Post

Or perhaps it's because they restored his mind using the parts that made him cold and sane.

That's what I thought. The serum reconnected all his damaged neural pathways and now it's back to cold, calculating Walter. Well at least we know the answer to the brain discussion now.

Another inventive and uncompromising episode. The Bell reveal was a surprise but the last minute twist was telegraphed very early. I think I saw that coming about five minutes in when everyone just kept calling her "agent" while the rest of the characters were addressed and introducing themselves with full names.

So it appears as if Peter and Olivia's offspring was the reason they wanted Peter wiped from existence. She is the key to their defeat. I'm going to assume from the bullet that Olivia is dead. Maybe Bell sold her out to the Observers or used her cortexiphan enhancement as an integral part of something that got her killed.

Also have to wonder what happened to the bridge. Did Jones succeed in merging the worlds or at least closing the Redverse off? Was his big plan to prepare the way for The Observers to arrive in force?
post #5077 of 6427
"These are not the droids we are looking for."

"Move along."

post #5078 of 6427
When the beginning of the episode started, I thought I was accidentally on the wrong channel and this was some sort of "Blade Runner" show.
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I thought it was a great episode. I saw the kid pretty early as well. I know the scifi nerds love Nimoy, but does anyone else wish they would have cast someone else? Nimoy doesn't want to act anymore, so they are limited with what they can do with the Bell character.
post #5080 of 6427
One of the best ever, with the exception of missing Olivia. Loved it!
post #5081 of 6427
Definitely interesting, I liked it. Would be nice if they continued along these lines and killed off all the dead wood
post #5082 of 6427
As a stand alone episode I really liked it. But how does it fit in with the last three years of the show and the timeline they setup? I really hope they don't pull a 'season 6' of Lost on us. Speaking of Lost, it was good to see Desmond.
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

As a stand alone episode I really liked it. But how does it fit in with the last three years of the show and the timeline they setup? ...

It's only one outcome of many plausible futures ...
post #5084 of 6427
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

As a stand alone episode I really liked it. But how does it fit in with the last three years of the show and the timeline they setup?

In what way does it seem inconsistent to you?
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

So it appears as if Peter and Olivia's offspring was the reason they wanted Peter wiped from existence. She is the key to their defeat.

September said that pretty explicitly, though he said that they'd had a son named Henry and not a daughter named Henrietta. No doubt an effect of the edited timeline.
post #5085 of 6427
I have to agree. It was one of the best episodes of Fringe I've seen. When Walter rigged up the anti matter "booby trap", it really showed a certain ruthlessness, not the bumbling Walter we're used to seeing, almost like Sean Connery in The Rock. Some booby trap, huh?

MIke
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I thought that his fixing Nina's hand was a nice touch. One assumes that a woman as powerful as Nina would have every effort made by a number of extremely competent engineers to fix that and Walter works on it for 30 seconds with whatever was in his pockets and its going again. (I believe that Bell created the prosthesis). Even with his brain scrambled, Walter is an über-genius .
post #5087 of 6427
Wonder what Bell did to Olivia.
post #5088 of 6427
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Originally Posted by Ericglo View Post

I thought it was a great episode. I saw the kid pretty early as well. I know the scifi nerds love Nimoy, but does anyone else wish they would have cast someone else? Nimoy doesn't want to act anymore, so they are limited with what they can do with the Bell character.

I think the reason we don't see Bell very often is not because Nimoy doesn't want to "act" but because he is 81 and the physical performance is too much for him now. That's why he still does voice work but rarely appears in person. I also thought that was a big reason behind the animated episode. He just couldn't handle the physicality.
post #5089 of 6427
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Originally Posted by Robert Clark View Post

I saw this episode as Fringe's version of the Dollhouse season one finale episode Epitaph Part 1, which they used as a springboard to conclude the series with Epitaph Part 2.
I could see Fringe concluding the series with a follow up episode to this one...

Funny you say it remind you of Doll house, while I don't recall seeing that epi of DH. It did remind me of Heros were they're in the future in episode one/ two? and all hell had broken loose. Wish they had stuck to similar story lines on that show instdead of the cartooney ones they just couldn't stop doing. Anyway I enjoy this one, and will be giving it another go once I get home. Djoel
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I believe Epitaph Part 1, of Dollhouse was not broadcasted. It might of been part of the DVD/ BluRay set.
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This episode does create a writing problem the show has to get itself out of. The Observers can see all outcomes of all timelines and be everywhere and anywhere ...

so shouldn't they be able to predict exactly what the resistance is going to do and be there to stop them?

If Olivia is dead then it does comply with September's earlier statement about her death being inevitable in every timeline.
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Originally Posted by Kingclancy View Post

I believe Epitaph Part 1, of Dollhouse was not broadcasted. It might of been part of the DVD/ BluRay set.

That's interesting (wasn't a Dollhouse fan--I think that I watched two episodes and the premise seemed profoundly goofy to me ); according to TV.com "Epitaph One", the first season finale, was never aired. It is available on Netflix in 1080p and as Amazon Prime Instant Video in 720p w/5.1 sound.
post #5093 of 6427
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

This episode does create a writing problem the show has to get itself out of. The Observers can see all outcomes of all timelines and be everywhere and anywhere ...

They tried to stop the birth of Blue Olivia & Red Peter's child by editing Peter's survival from the timeline and apparently failed due to September's refusal to play his part, so they're not omnipotent. I think that I can recall other instances of things not working out the way that they planned it.
post #5094 of 6427
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

I think the reason we don't see Bell very often is not because Nimoy doesn't want to "act" but because he is 81 and the physical performance is too much for him now. That's why he still does voice work but rarely appears in person. I also thought that was a big reason behind the animated episode. He just couldn't handle the physicality.

He had mentioned that he was going to retire from acting after that last episode of Fringe that he was in. Maybe he has changed his mind. If it is to physical for him, then it just lends credence to going with another actor.
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Originally Posted by Ericglo View Post

Maybe he has changed his mind. If it is to physical for him, then it just lends credence to going with another actor.

Perhaps they could bring in Zachary Quinto and age him with makeup . (BTW, 24-years-older Broyles seemed more than a little fake to me).
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Originally Posted by movienutt View Post

I have to agree. It was one of the best episodes of Fringe I've seen. When Walter rigged up the anti matter "booby trap", it really showed a certain ruthlessness, not the bumbling Walter we're used to seeing, almost like Sean Connery in The Rock. Some booby trap, huh?

MIke


Only Walter can rig an antimatter bomb in a few minutes.

Gotta love the way an antimatter bomb explodes on Fringe. Now you see it, now you don't.....which just a little boom inbetween.

.....and nobody ask where Walter whipped up some antimatter.
post #5097 of 6427
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

As a stand alone episode I really liked it. But how does it fit in with the last three years of the show and the timeline they setup? I really hope they don't pull a 'season 6' of Lost on us. Speaking of Lost, it was good to see Desmond.

Thanks. I watched it this afternoon and I kept wondering the entire episode who that was. I knew him from something but couldn't place him.
post #5098 of 6427
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Thanks. I watched it this afternoon and I kept wondering the entire episode who that was. I knew him from something but couldn't place him.


LOL, I could not place him either without the thick Scottish ascent, and a single BROTHA! I first thought it was the rebel dude from V.

DJoel
post #5099 of 6427
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Only Walter can rig an antimatter bomb in a few minutes.

Gotta love the way an antimatter bomb explodes on Fringe. Now you see it, now you don't.....which just a little boom inbetween.

.....and nobody ask where Walter whipped up some antimatter.

The show has lots of outs for that.

They never said it was a conventional bomb. Could easily be a device which just forces objects to another universe just as the devices Jones was using did.

20+ years have passed in the Fringe world so it's very easy to imagine that after the invasion was anticipated Walter and MD started devising weapons to fight back with and they had been left in secret after Walter was ambered.

It could also have been a failsafe to prevent MD tech from falling into the hands of The Observers that was never used.

All it needed was the final trigger putting into the assembly.
post #5100 of 6427
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

This episode does create a writing problem the show has to get itself out of. The Observers can see all outcomes of all timelines and be everywhere and anywhere ...

so shouldn't they be able to predict exactly what the resistance is going to do and be there to stop them?

If Olivia is dead then it does comply with September's earlier statement about her death being inevitable in every timeline.


If that was the case Walternet would have cured his son by September not interrupt him, which wasn't avoided causing a long list of mishaps in both universe.


DJoel
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