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post #31 of 1830
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Originally Posted by mohanman View Post

Just writing again to confirm that this receiver was a great purchase. I love it so much, excellent sound quality, looks cool, works.. simple as that. The only thing is it runs hot! I think its frying my tivo series 3 on the shelf above it. I was thinking about getting one of those external fans for receivers..

Highly recommended receiver overall

Mo


Anyone recommended this instead of Onkyo 875 (last year model) ? They have about the same price, but I think that Onkyo 875 is better. What do you think ?
post #32 of 1830
Just wanted to say hello all.
I to just purchased the 806, had a pio 1016 before, gotta say this reciever blows it away, love it,

Speakers used >

Polk CS2 center
Klipsch - Synergy III towers front and rears
Polk m10 back surronds
Klipsch 2x Sub-12

And Sony XBR 4 52inch.
Will post pics soon, love this forum.
post #33 of 1830
Anyone else with comments on the 806? I have had mine for about a week now, and it is awesome. No problems thus far.
Sound is great/clean

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post #34 of 1830
Does the 806 run hot like the previous models?
post #35 of 1830
Thread Starter 
Whats your idea of hot? Most recievers are warm/hot to the touch.
post #36 of 1830
This thing isnt' warm to the touch, its piping hot. I bought a fan for a/v receivers to place on top of it, so I will let you know how well it works.
The top of the receiver even warns you not to touch it

Mo
post #37 of 1830
My definition of hot/warm would be........if you can place your hand on the top of the receiver comfortably for more than 15 seconds then it's just warm and would be considered normal operating temperature.

If one can't last 15 seconds without removing their hand due to discomfort then I would say it runs to hot.

Even better yet since everyone experiences heat differently would be.......after 30 minutes of regular use temp the unit with a IR temp gun.

Only reason I ask is because I choose to go with a Denon AVR rather than an Onkyo because of the heat related issues I've read about. My Father is interested in the 606 and I need to know if I should advise him of any heat related issues or steer him towards a Denon AVR.
post #38 of 1830
Hi guys,

This receiver looks like a pretty good value; it seems to have a solid amp section and weighs in at a weight comparable to the Denon 3808 and Yamaha 1800/3800 series.

To those that own this unit I have the following questions:

1) Is anyone connected to a DVI equipped set (I have a Toshiba 57HDX82); if so any problems?
2) Are the upconversion settings global or are they on a per input basis; for example, can I set the PS3 to upconvert to 1080i (i.e. 720p games to 1080i) but set my HDDVD player to through?
3) Are speaker trim levels global or on a per input basis (i.e. can I set the LFE level to +10 on one input and +5 on another)?
4) How is the upconversion quality?

Thanks for any input you can provide.
post #39 of 1830
Try retrevo online.Manuals and downloads are free.
post #40 of 1830
I already looked at the manual; these are my questions after I finished looking through the manual.
post #41 of 1830
In theory DVI-HDMI are 100% compatible for the video part. However, in practice it is hit and miss. In my case the onkyo-875 works with the pc if I connect using the ati supplied dvi-hdmi dongle and hdmi cable. My Samsung TV works either that way or straight using a DVI-HDMI cable. However, if I use the DVI-HDMI cable 875 says "no signal"
Onkyo states that such a connection does not work.
I also have an LG 7832 model dvd player with DVI. Samsung TV works fine if connect it using a DVI-HDMI cable. But, if use the same cable and connect to 875, the dvd player hangs up for good. The only way out is to unplug it.
So, it is difficult to generalize the DVI-HDMI connectivity. In most product brochures they state that it may not work. You have to experiment
post #42 of 1830
I am looking to replace my Onkyo 604 - It is starting to display some odd behavior making it unreliable for me.

Is the verdict in on the 806? It appears to have the features I am looking for in my upgrade - more power, more HDMI connections, and up conversion.

The price seems to be right.

Any advice from the experts?
post #43 of 1830
Why are people not debating the 805-806 on this thread? The 806 is missing the Burr-Brown DACS, as well as almost 14 lbs. of heft.

The 876 (next step up) still weighs in at almost 51lbs (compared with the 875), but the 806 dropped 26% of it's weight compared to the 805. I'm guessing it's the transformer,which is a HUGE part of what separates an average AVR from a great one. Check out these differences:

The 805:
High Instantaneous Current Capability 36A
S/N Ratio (LINE IN) 110 dB
Power Consumption 9.5 A

The 806:
High Instantaneous Current Capability 60A
S/N Ratio (LINE IN) 110 dB
Power Consumption 7.8 A

The 806 lacks the following what the 805 had:

Dual PUSH-PULL Design
Independent Block Construction (Amp/Preprocessor)
Optimum Gain Volume
Linear Optimum Gain Volume
Non-Scaling Configuration
7 Band Multi-Band Speaker EQ
Back Lit Remote

What gives Onkyo?
post #44 of 1830
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Originally Posted by Buckeyefan View Post

Why are people not debating the 805-806 on this thread?

I'm guessing that most people already know that the 805 was a far better value and the feature sets have been rehashed in other threads. Nobody really seems to care about the 806.....it's not that people aren't debating it compared to the 805.....people aren't really discussing much of anything about the 806. The 805 thread is still getting lots more activity than this one.
post #45 of 1830
Anybody using the Netflix player by Roku with their 806 or 805? I have it hooked up via hdmi and intermitently get just a green screen without sound or video (obviously). It is definitely some hdmi handshake issue b/w the 806 and the roku (any other hdmi source works great). My 875 works fine with it - might be something to do with the farjouda chipset? Anybody have any ideas to avoid having to switch to component (which has a native output of only 480i vs 480p via hdmi).
post #46 of 1830
I have a roku/netflix hooked to my 805 with no issues....

Sean
post #47 of 1830
I wonder if the chipset in the 805 leaves it alone and it's the upscaling causing the problem...
post #48 of 1830
Did Onkyo fix the terrible lip synch problems that the 805 had? Does the 806 have lip synch problems?

post #49 of 1830
I have just hooked up a new 806 at home and have the following sources connected:

Oppo DV-981HD (outputting 1080p) HDMI
PS3 (outputting 1080p) HDMI
Nintendo Wii (outputting 480p) Component

I have an HDMI out from the receiver to a Westinghouse LVM-37W3 1080p LCD

When the sources are individually connected to the display, all looks good:
  • PS3 is the right resolution and aspect ratio
  • DVD player is the right resolution and aspect
  • Wii is the right aspect and is upscaled to fit the 1080p screen. Slight grain in image

Once I connect the sources to the receiver and leave it to scale the Wii, I get the following:
  • PS3 is the correct resolution, but part of the carrier signal is visible in trailers such as the Quantum of Solace 1080p trailer downloaded from the PS store.
  • DVD appears fine
  • The Wii is a MESS. The image becomes washed out and the 16:9 image is squashed to 4:3.

I called Onkyo tech support who took a while to get on the same page. Tried various things including resetting the receiver to defaults, but nothing changed. After promising to escalate and call me back, I did indeed receive a call back to say that THIS WAS NORMAL. What the flying fox are they talking about?

If I connect a component out from the receiver to the TV and bypass the upconversion to HDMI, the imageis displayed correctly. Clearly, this is a problem with the DCDi cinema chip. Anyone else able to replicate this?

As a new onkyo dealer I am considering dropping the line if I can't get some sensible response from them via my distributor on monday. If they still insist this is normal behavior, the very least I will have to do is avoid this model. IIRC, I set up a TX-SR606 for a customer the other week with an HD cable box, an Oppo DVD and a Wii and didn't see this issue, even though that unit was also upconverting the component Wii image to HDMI.

New buyers beware - get a demo before you buy of a setup similar to yours or use these forums. More info as I have it

Edit:

Two images for comparison. Taken with the same exposure (1/250s) same aperture (F4) same ISO (800) and have received no processing other than resize to 800x533:

Component out from receiver (480i apparently) no upconversion:


HDMI out with upconversion from component input:



The difference in brightness of the two images is due entirely to the Onkyo. Notice also how the HDMI output is squashed & blurred as well.
post #50 of 1830
Does the 805 still ofer the sade Audio decoding on the newer formats that are found on the 806? From everything I've read on this forums, I still can't honestly tell what the big difference is between the 2.
post #51 of 1830
we just got this receiver today.

there is a problem.

the ps3 is hooked up to the 806 with component video, and HDMI for audio.

the receiver is connected to our 1080i HDTV with component.

the problem is that there are wavy lines going across the HDTV screen, and it looks terrible. my brother says it is noise.

when i hook up the PS3 directly to the tv with component, everything looks fine, so something is going on there with the receiver... what can be the cause of these wavy lines!?
post #52 of 1830
I have the Roku box hooked up via HDMI on my 806 and it never has a green screen issue, but I do not use the upscaling on the receiver, my TV generally does a better job. I can try it with it on just to see what happens.

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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

Anybody using the Netflix player by Roku with their 806 or 805? I have it hooked up via hdmi and intermitently get just a green screen without sound or video (obviously). It is definitely some hdmi handshake issue b/w the 806 and the roku (any other hdmi source works great). My 875 works fine with it - might be something to do with the farjouda chipset? Anybody have any ideas to avoid having to switch to component (which has a native output of only 480i vs 480p via hdmi).
post #53 of 1830
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Originally Posted by Colt45joe View Post

we just got this receiver today.

there is a problem.

the ps3 is hooked up to the 806 with component video, and HDMI for audio.

the receiver is connected to our 1080i HDTV with component.

the problem is that there are wavy lines going across the HDTV screen, and it looks terrible. my brother says it is noise.

when i hook up the PS3 directly to the tv with component, everything looks fine, so something is going on there with the receiver... what can be the cause of these wavy lines!?

...anybody?
post #54 of 1830
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Originally Posted by mn_hokie View Post

Does the 805 still ofer the sade Audio decoding on the newer formats that are found on the 806? From everything I've read on this forums, I still can't honestly tell what the big difference is between the 2.

Yes same decoding. In a nutshell the 806

Adds:
Audyssey Dynamic Volume
Audyssey Dynamic EQ
Additional HDMI input
1080p upscaling

Deducts:
1 DSP
Burr Brown DACs
Massive power supply
Learning/Backlit remote control
post #55 of 1830
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Originally Posted by jw2k_fr View Post

I have just hooked up a new 806 at home and have the following sources connected:

Oppo DV-981HD (outputting 1080p) HDMI
PS3 (outputting 1080p) HDMI
Nintendo Wii (outputting 480p) Component

I have an HDMI out from the receiver to a Westinghouse LVM-37W3 1080p LCD

When the sources are individually connected to the display, all looks good:
  • PS3 is the right resolution and aspect ratio
  • DVD player is the right resolution and aspect
  • Wii is the right aspect and is upscaled to fit the 1080p screen. Slight grain in image

Once I connect the sources to the receiver and leave it to scale the Wii, I get the following:
  • PS3 is the correct resolution, but part of the carrier signal is visible in trailers such as the Quantum of Solace 1080p trailer downloaded from the PS store.
  • DVD appears fine
  • The Wii is a MESS. The image becomes washed out and the 16:9 image is squashed to 4:3.

I called Onkyo tech support who took a while to get on the same page. Tried various things including resetting the receiver to defaults, but nothing changed. After promising to escalate and call me back, I did indeed receive a call back to say that THIS WAS NORMAL. What the flying fox are they talking about?

If I connect a component out from the receiver to the TV and bypass the upconversion to HDMI, the imageis displayed correctly. Clearly, this is a problem with the DCDi cinema chip. Anyone else able to replicate this?

As a new onkyo dealer I am considering dropping the line if I can't get some sensible response from them via my distributor on monday. If they still insist this is normal behavior, the very least I will have to do is avoid this model. IIRC, I set up a TX-SR606 for a customer the other week with an HD cable box, an Oppo DVD and a Wii and didn't see this issue, even though that unit was also upconverting the component Wii image to HDMI.

New buyers beware - get a demo before you buy of a setup similar to yours or use these forums. More info as I have it.


The difference in brightness of the two images is due entirely to the Onkyo. Notice also how the HDMI output is squashed & blurred as well.

As a note, I was looking at purchasing an 805 but couldn't find anyone locally that still had one. I ended up purchasing an 806 from a shop that, as I now understand, is a non authorized dealer (despite all the onkyo gear and signs). They refuse to take the item back and, having purchased cash, I have no resource for chargebacks or anything.

My issues with the 806 are the same as yours. So long as I pass through video, there doesn't seem to be any major issues (except dropping blacker than blacks and color washing (which I've corrected with Avia)). When using 480i/p sources and upconverting to 720 or higher the image is terrible.

I don't fully understand why upconversion would display a far worse image than pass through when using low def. sources but I'm definitely not happy.

Also, the fact that this thing hates anything with a DVI to HDMI adapter is also a piss off.

If I could exchange this for an 805 I'd do so in an instant.

Lemme know if you hear anything back from Onkyo.

Cheers!
post #56 of 1830
it is absolutely amazing how dead this forum is compared to the 805...
post #57 of 1830
I agree, which is why I just pulled the trigger and bought it.
post #58 of 1830
I've been running an 806 in a secondary setting for near four months without issue save some hdmi handshake issues with a netflix player by roku, which was ultimately solved with dfferent hdmi cables (from the same manufacturer - monoprice). It's not the 805 in both good and bad ways. it's lighter and a little less beefier, but I cannot hear the difference in most cases. While i lament the drop of neural processing modes, high bandwith on component and drop of zone 3, I think the five hdmi inputs and upscaling are probably more useful for most users. In a few years, one can surmise that hdmi (now what version or form i do not know) will be the primary conduit for audio and video. The prices are very competitive - i just picked up a refurb'd one for a little more than 400. hard to beat at that price level.
post #59 of 1830
Those looking for a good deal ($440 shipped) on the 806 look here:
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=1000717
post #60 of 1830
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

it is absolutely amazing how dead this forum is compared to the 805...

try this thread for 806 discussion



http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&highlight=806
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