Official Samsung LNxxA850 Owner's Thread - Page 3

Ok, and now I've found one blue stuck pixel. So that's two on this tv. Again, neither one is noticeable at all when watching the TV. The PS3 black screen can be your enemy! Beware!

Any ideas if these can actually be "unstuck" or is this more of a permanent thing? I've heard about gently rubbing the screen, but that never worked on my XBR's stuck pixel.

Would you guys return it for two pixels? After the XBR ordeal, I don't want to get into that game again. Another consideration for me is the extreme goof the store did with regards to giving me the 850 when I ordered and paid for a 650. If I return it, I'll not be bringing back and 850, but rather the 650. I don't know if I could go "back" to that, as it were. I really like the thin dimensions on this set and the ToC bezel is awesome.

Maybe I can save up the extra money towards the end of the month, return it, give the store the chance to make their corrections, if they want to and either swap it for another 850 free (depending on how the store treats this issue) or pony up the difference and get another new 850 anyways.

After watching more of the Transformers Blu Ray, I am floored by the picture. Even after telling my somewhat OCD wife about the pixel, she said A) don't tell me about those things B) I don't care because this picture is ridiculous!

Well, at least I figured out what I'm going to do with regards to my 850. I'm going to wait until my 30 days is almost up (either that or until the 850 goes on sale). When I'm close to the 30 day window, I'm going to return the 850 and see what the store wants to do. At that point, they may just say keep it and not bother. If they do that, then I'll be sure to get another 850 and check it out for stuck pixels. If they want to give me the 650, then I'll pony up the difference and get another 850 anyhow. Either way, it looks like I'm staying with the 850. The picture quality is just THAT good! Also, I like the styling a LOT better than the 650. This gives me a chance to let the store decide how they want to handle their mistake. I'll be happy either way they decide.

You definitely have to be within a foot or two to see the pixel. It's silly really. I know most LCDs have problems with this, but I think I'm finally getting past my point of OCD that I can actually live with it! I learned to live with it on the 40XBR2 and, for the most part, forgot about it entirely because it was usually 'invisible'.

Ahhh yes! It's the 6 month input!

A stuck pixel is a pixel that continually emits a specific color (red, blue, green, or white). A dead pixel no longer emits any light and is continually black. Be warned before you start looking for them, most LCDs will have some or at least one, especially screens as large as the ones we are talking about!

Read my post above, I'm going to let the store decide how they want to handle their screw-up. Either they'll just say nevermind and let me keep it - at which point I may return it close to the 30 day window. Or, they'll want to give me the 650 at which point I'll pony up the difference between the 650 and 850 (it may be on sale by then), and exchange it. Honestly, these things are not visible unless you know where to look and are right up on the TV. I won't see it even if I know where to look when I'm sitting at a normal viewing distance.

AFAIK, there are some 'fixes' for this, but I haven't tried one yet that has worked.

Thnx for the info. I'll give it a try.

I don't have any twitching when I watch DirecTV. I do get less than HD performance, but you might need to check your settings for SD. Definitely turn off the 120hz. With regards to the splotches, I saw them just faintly and barely this evening when the TV was switching inputs. It was just before the Blu Ray player started up and there was a black screen. The black screen was nowhere near as black as the black screen that popped up between coming attractions at the beginning of the disc. I also saw it as I was powering off the TV. There's something about this "black" screen that's different than the solid black screens that are presented in films, TV and content. This screen is much lighter - like a dark, dark grey. It isn't pitch black like the screen is most of the time. That leads me to believe that there is something going on with the blacklight during this operation and that's what pushes those little white blotches out. However, I must stress, this DOES NOT HAPPEN AT ALL while watching the TV. The issue is so faint that I can't even see it in the daylight, but I did notice it tonight. It made me remember this post from earlier in the day and I wanted to respond to it. It may not be your set, it just may be something that happens for a brief moment as the TV is switching inputs. However, it is not the clouding issue that affected the XBRs. I know. I went through my fair share of those and believe me, I had no problems being vocal about that issue when I was experiencing it. So I'm not a person who lives in denial just because I bought a certain brand or model TV. That's part of the benefit of this forum - people who are honest about their purchases and experiences with their products. All that being said, I can assure you all that while watching the 300 in a totally dark room, I'm satisfied that this TV has no problems with clouding or mura. It's still the most amazing picture I've seen yet and I'm in no way unhappy with it.

Well, I have a correction to make. After watching more of the 300 Blu Ray, I could, in fact, see the white splotches in the darkest scenes of the movie. At times when the screen was completely black, I could see them, so maybe an exchange is in order for me, too. I still love the picture and, like I said, these don't show up in the daytime.

This was also the case with the XBR2/3s. You couldn't see the clouding on these panels in the showrooms unless the room was mostly darkened or the clouding was very bad. The true test of clouding problems is always performed in a dark room (this usually means night) with no lights on. Then you'll know what you're dealing with. And, sad to say, this TV of mine has that clouding issue. I wish it wasn't so, but there you have it. I'll take a picture of it tonight.

Sakedrinker, please report back and let us know if your newly exchanged TV has the same clouding issue. If you've had two that have it and I have one that has it, then we might be looking at a legitimate problem with this set.

As much as I love this TV and the picture quality I've seen on it, I wasn't going to live in denial and just pretend that the TV was perfect. I'm willing to overlook some things, but the clouding, even though it isn't as bad as the XBR clouds I'd experienced in the past, is a disappointment.

Just out of curiosity, does anybody know if 650 owners had issues with clouding? Seems like I asked that question a week ago and I think I might have heard back that some were reporting the issue and some weren't. This very well may be a problem with any LCD I get.

Also, anybody know what the magic number of stuck pixels is for Samsung to dispatch a repairman to replace a panel?