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post #571 of 793
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Originally Posted by stumlad View Post

To me:
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The rated cut makes no sense. Juno would have had to make it out before Sarah, then choose the same vehicle, but sit in the back seat. Then Sarah would have to get in the car without either noticing the other (which is possible), but after Sarah drives off and stops to puke, she would have to somehow get into the passenger seat.

I dont remember exactly, but it also appeared that Sarah fell prior to going unconcious, but when she "awakes" she's about 20-30 feet from the entrance/exit. If that were the case, she would have had to fallen upwards.

The dream sequence is the only one that makes sense (of the two endings). Of course, the entire thing being an hallucination may perhaps have worked as well, but I think it's best they left it as an interpretation.



EDIT:



Didnt see your post until after I wrote this... I'll check it out.

As you'll see, it got a little carried away at times, but there was some very interesting theories about the movie as a whole, not just the ending.

larry
post #572 of 793
Can someone with an Austrailan copy check to see if it still works on the PS3 running the latest firmware (2.76). I've been thinking about importing it, but the recent firmware update has caused problems for several discs that have PAL content on them. I know the disc is region free, but from what I've read, something about the new firmware rejects these types of discs. Thanks in advance
post #573 of 793
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Originally Posted by solidgator View Post

Can someone with an Austrailan copy check to see if it still works on the PS3 running the latest firmware (2.76). I've been thinking about importing it, but the recent firmware update has caused problems for several discs that have PAL content on them. I know the disc is region free, but from what I've read, something about the new firmware rejects these types of discs. Thanks in advance

Aw f*#k!

Error code 80029946

Time for me to find a region free player.
Would anyone know how to rollback the firmware on the PS3?
post #574 of 793
I would not roll back your fw. It may mess up your ability to watch some of the newest domestic Fox titles and their wonderful BD Live screw fest.
post #575 of 793
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Originally Posted by shadowrage View Post

Aw f*#k!

Error code 80029946

Time for me to find a region free player.
Would anyone know how to rollback the firmware on the PS3?

Oh, for the love of...



I really hope this is a temporary glitch and that the next patch fixes this. I'm also extremely thankful that I now have a dedicated Region B player for titles with PAL content.
post #576 of 793
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Originally Posted by shadowrage View Post

Aw f*#k!

Error code 80029946

Time for me to find a region free player.
Would anyone know how to rollback the firmware on the PS3?

Thats what I was afraid of. Thanks for checking it so quickly. Unfortunately, the PS3 isn't able to be "rolled back". Once you update the firmware, you can't go back to a previous version from what I've read. There may be hacks for that, but I don't think there are.
post #577 of 793
Solidgator, what other BDs are you having issues with?
post #578 of 793
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Originally Posted by Schils View Post

I agree with Dex, I don't trully have a problem with either ending, they can both work depending on each individuals take on their experience while watching the entire flick...the unrated, original ending is very cool and leaves you thinking (I do like it better). But the US release gets bashed because of the cheese factor and I don't get that, IMO...

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when she looks over and see's Juno right beside her in the truck and screams in horror and it ends, that also can make you think...its says TO ME that Juno is not really there (obviously), its just her concious, the guilt from the results of what just transpired, they're suggesting that THAT is the way she is gonna have to live her life from here on. Not a pretty thought IMO, and in some ways, just as dreary an ending as the original because she is now basically back to the basket case she was when we found her at the start of the movie - full circle.

I agree with this interpretation and I thought it was pretty self-evident. I think the uncut version actually did wrap up the film pretty tightly. she basically was "dead" since she had essentially gone totally mad (coming full circle) from the experience and where she was, the perception of being re-united with her daughter, at the end was the only reality for her. Interesting to see how many different directions and interpretations that have sprouted up about this film. I loved it the first time I saw it and everyone in my family who I took to see it did also.
post #579 of 793
I have an 80gb Australian PS3 with 2.76 firmware & The Descent (Aus) works fine.
post #580 of 793
I watched the entire movie on 6/4. I'm pretty sure I had the latest firmware at that time seeing as how it was released mid may. I wasn't able to play the special features though (which wasnt a big surprise). I have the original 60 GB PS3. I will try again soon and update...
post #581 of 793
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Originally Posted by Kentai View Post

Solidgator, what other BDs are you having issues with?

I'm not having any problems yet. However, my friend who also has a 60gb PS3 can't play his Match Point bluray and several others have run into similar problems. Like I said, I've been meaning to import the Descent, but have decided to wait and see if this firmware issue is resolved.
post #582 of 793
I think my PS3 runs in firmware 2.6x. I won't be upgrading unless the morons at Sony sort out the issue. If they continue like this then it's time to say goodbye to my PS3.
post #583 of 793
Please lets not starting listing BDs not playing in a PS3 or other PS3 specific things not related to The Descent. Hopefully Sony will resolve the issue.

I just checked my PS3 with the AUS BD. I have FW 2.60 and it works. Although my PS3 that served me extremely well for the past 2 years or so is no longer my BD player.

larry
post #584 of 793
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Originally Posted by shadowrage View Post

Aw f*#k!

Error code 80029946

Time for me to find a region free player.
Would anyone know how to rollback the firmware on the PS3?

You could look into a Samsung or the Pioneer 51 for a cheap alternative. They both read 50hz content with no issues. However, the Pioneer and I *think* the Samsungs also, will send the 50hz content right to the TV so your TV will either display 50hz or you will get a blank screen until it goes back to 60hz/24hz.
post #585 of 793
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Originally Posted by lgans316 View Post

I think my PS3 runs in firmware 2.6x. I won't be upgrading unless the morons at Sony sort out the issue. If they continue like this then it's time to say goodbye to my PS3.

Weird, I just tried my Australian version with firmware 2.76 and it still plays fine (the movie, of course, not the extras)...

Update: Scratch this; I did something very, very foolish. When I tested the disc, as I wrote above, it worked fine because the PS3 had bookmarked the last scene I had watched and left the movie on. When I confirmed it would still play, I failed to hit Stop and let it bookmark my position again--I just hit Eject. Right after I did that, I thought, "oh, you idiot, do you know what you just did?" Sure enough, when I try it now, now that all bookmarks have been unintentionally cleared, I get no movie and the same error message everyone else has been getting. So learn from my stupidity--if you already have some scene in this film bookmarked on the PS3, keep bookmarking the film every time you put it in. This really pisses me off--I paid good money to import this thing and now I can't even finish watching it, dammit!
post #586 of 793
just watched the MPEG2 version again tonight and I got to say it looked very, very good on my new Panasonic TH-65PZ850U plasma. this is the fourth time I've watched it and it still wears me out.
post #587 of 793
I must have updated the firmware AFTER watching it because Descent would not play today.... Same error code..... (PS3 60 GB)

BTW, I continued the discussion here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post16645782
post #588 of 793
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Originally Posted by stumlad View Post

I must have updated the firmware AFTER watching it because Descent would not play today.... Same error code..... (PS3 60 GB)

BTW, I continued the discussion here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post16645782

Thanks.

larry
post #589 of 793
I moved a post to here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1155353 that mentioned the sequel.

larry
post #590 of 793
Woah! I haven't updated my PS3 firmware in about 6 months. Not going to now... Still sucks for everybody though....
post #591 of 793
Sonofabitch. This better be fixed soon.
post #592 of 793
got mine tonight from AUS. Pic looks fab. Plays fine. Are the extras in HD or PAL sd? I don't want to risk playing them if they are PAL...
post #593 of 793
Extras are supposed to be in PAL, what's the risk?
post #594 of 793
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

got mine tonight from AUS. Pic looks fab. Plays fine. Are the extras in HD or PAL sd? I don't want to risk playing them if they are PAL...

Extras are PAL. All that happens on the US PS3 is screen goes black momentarily, and returns to main menu. Like the previous poster I don't see what the risk would be, Dave!
post #595 of 793
Oh - as regards the firmware issue for the US PS3... my PS3, which is not connected to the internet, was at something like 2.5. When I put the US Ghostbusters disc in, it told me it could not play unless the firmware was upgraded to 2.6. I quickly checked to make sure that 2.6 wasn't the firmware that would destroy my ability to play The Descent, and upgraded.

But surely - some new release is going to demand the newer firmware, and we will have the choice of upgrading to play the new release or sticking with the older firmware to play The Descent. I hope Sony solve this issue in a future update.
post #596 of 793
gotcha guys. In some other thread someone said that PAL "crashes" their PS3....



and yeah, Sony should very well fix this.
post #597 of 793
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

gotcha guys. In some other thread someone said that PAL "crashes" their PS3....



and yeah, Sony should very well fix this.

If the disc starts at all, then you're okay, because it means you don't have the latest PS3 firmware. The most recent patch changed the way it treats PAL content, spitting out an error code and refusing to play the disc instead of just skipping over PAL material.

An explanation of the situation:

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post #598 of 793
Here's what I got from communicating with Sony:

Discussion Thread

Customer 06/13/2009 08:45 PM
I, and many others at the AVS Forums online, are reporting a problem that was not occuring with previous firmware updates but is now occuring with Version 2.76. We have copies of the Australian region-free Blu-ray of THE DESCENT, which has PAL bonus features but a 1080p presentation of the main feature. The bonus features have never been playable, due to the PS3's unfortunate and near exclusive inability to play PAL material, but now the film itself, which is not in PAL format, can no longer be launched, effectively rendering the entire disc useless. Since I have made an investment in this disc, and continue to import other region-free Blu-rays from outside the U.S., I call upon you to please rectify this new glitch with another firmware update soon; thank you for your time,

Travis B.

Response (Jessica M.) 06/14/2009 10:46 AM
Hello Travis,

We apologize for any inconvenience regarding the disc not loading properly on your system.

If you have not done so, please try the following troubleshooting steps. We have found that they have often corrected issues such as yours:

* Please be sure to try the disc(s) on another PLAYSTATION(R)3 computer entertainment system. If the disc(s) does not work on another system, then there is most likely a problem with the software, not the console.

* Please confirm that the disc is clean. We recommend using a CD wipe to clean the disc. Please remember to wipe from the center of the disc to the outside in a straight line. Avoids wiping in a circular motion as this may cause scratches on the disc.

* Try playing different CDs, DVDs, and games on the PLAYSTATION 3 console to see if the problem exists across multiple discs.

*Try another copy of the movie on your system to check if its able to load properly.

Regards,
Jessica M.


All of which I think is best summed up by:

post #599 of 793
Yes, the typical "helpless" desk response.
post #600 of 793
You gotta wonder if they even read the discussions/emails or have a written script prepared and in the case of emails just send it out by hitting the quick reply button and not even reading what the issue is.
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